December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: you honkies do not understand this, but this is what I grew up with. will you muthafuckin cyberpunks PLEASE learn to spell; the word is "NIGGAZ" > Apparently-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Precedence: bulk > > Punks, > > Nawh nigga, yous don't want dem udder foo's to be able to read jo > mail! What da hail?! Don'chew see it now? Dis's anutha foam of > kryptografee! > > Da reason we be doin' dis shit is dat so dem basta'ds out dere > who be wantin' in on ours konversayshun can't be gettin' in. > > See?! Now what foo' ass cracka muthafucka can be readin' dis > shit at a decent clip? Shit! Can't none of 'em! De only problem is dat > it be takin' too long to put in dees apo-straphees. If we gots rids ofs > dems, dens we'ds haves a much easia' time of doin' dis shit. > > Why don't one you cleva' boyz come up wit some kinda editor dat > crossreferences (oops, too many syllables) wit dat phat ass ebonics > dikshunary at EBONIC.ORG? Den jus' give da dikshunary only to dose > people who you be wantin' to read jo shit. > > Yeomsayn'? Hilary Clinton can't be readin' dis shit! Can't > nobody else ova dere in D.C. Us niggas here in Compton been down wit dis > phat ass kryptografee fo' a long ass time. How do you tink dat us > gangstas is all still around? We be talkin' shit ev'y night on da co'na, > but can't none da fuzz be translatin' so we's frees tos dos whateva' we's > wantin's tos dos. > > Yo, jus' lemme quote my phat ass nigga dogg Method Man befo' I go: > > "I'm slammin' niggas like Shaqueel, dis shit is real, > When it's time to eat a meal, I rob and steal, > Cuz mom ain't givin' me shit, > So for da bread an' butta I leave niggas in da gutta, > Wherde 'the mutha, I'm dangerous, > Crazia' den a bag o' fuckin' angel dust, > When I bus' my gat, muthafuckas take dirt naps, > I'm all dat, wit a dime sack and a payback!" > > Dag! Dat shit's phat, dogg. > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > # Gangsta J # "Dead bodies pile up, an' it's plain to see, # > # j(a)hardcore.gangsta.com # it's because o' me. I'm the girl killa, the # > # Brownsville ghetto # throat slitta, the cunt rippa" - J # > ************************************************************************** > this muthafucker has a sick sig. keep all fuckin replies to the mailing list ONLY.

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National Cryptologic School Press
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A WaPo review today of a new book on military intelligence during the Civil War, cites the author's background in NSA and as director of the agency's National Cryptologic School Press. Are the publications of this press public? Anyone have an address? Access to a catalogue. Any other info? There's another, on-line, review of the book at: http://www.bookpage.com/9609bp/nonfiction/thesecretwarfortheunion.html

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Re: DES implementation in C
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Young wrote: > On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Peter Trei wrote: > > > So yet again my dislike of doing assember has been justified. One just > > > needs a good compiler and be willing to put in the correct C code :-). > > > While I know the asm is faster, the C compiler does a better job of > > > the chaining between the 16 inlined inner loops. [snippo] If you could produce a 100% 'C' version, with in-line provisions for replaceable 'C' or assembler functions, and insure that there is no significant performance loss for having this portability, then you could at least issue the 100% 'C' code for any machine or O/S. This would make a lot of people happy if the application has wide interest. Is this possible, even if it's more work?

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Re: Executing Encrypted Code
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:41 PM 12/21/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >And don't forget that internal nodes of microproceessors can be "tapped" >with an electron beam voltage contrast system. Some steps can make this >much harder, but the principle is still that internal states are capturable. >--Tim May Within the last week or two, I read (somewhere?) of a new system to analyze chip behavior that utilized tiny amounts of light momentarily emitted from FET channels during switching. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Slaughter
by Timothy N. Hill 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- According to Bartlett's, this is attributed to Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984): In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up. [John Bartlett, _Familiar Quotations_, ed. by Justin Kaplan (16th ed.; Boston: Little, Brown and Company; 1992), p. 684] - Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.7.1 iQCVAwUBMr2NAy62DQeAyFc9AQH1TgP/RXoMa4e5Ub+u8H4vBYuRL+lPrefU02B1 qov3PSmAzyHu9tGYWuKG4vIVEZfpQe9Wi6OgJh7bLoAnFN3g+umd9CJ6psc7DC3p P3iEEwgaY+9zQ4oX3L9+79DEhlPFiH4RUbjEGOo31d1Rj3gOGRhNXPVdVCNA/tTf H3jbKL9yvpU= =qp1r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Timothy N. Hill <tnh(a)acm.org> Wellesley, Massachusetts <http://www.ma.ultranet.com/~tnh/> +1 617 235-2902 PGP F058F75D 99C5122F 21C5BEF5 620C1D3C

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No Subject
by Jean-Lou Dupont 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe jld(a)osiris.com

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Re: the word is "NIGGAZ"
by jlucas4＠capital.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Actually the word is "niggus." "Niggaz" is the white man's nasal rendition of this term. It can alos be spelt "niggas," but this form implies a different context. context. "Niggus" is used often within gangsta rap music in an effort to rhyme with difficult words when no other way can be found. "Niggas" would be referring to other black fellows in a friendly way. More or less. Gangsta J ************************************************************************** # Gangsta J # "Dead bodies pile up, an' it's plain to see, # # j(a)hardcore.gangsta.com # it's because o' me. I'm the girl killa, the # # Brownsville ghetto # throat slitta, the cunt rippa" - J # **************************************************************************

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Re: Ebonics
by Matthew J. Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Sorry to quote so much, in this case it seemed necessary. At 04:07 PM 12/21/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 5:49 PM -0600 12/21/96, Matthew J. Miszewski wrote: > >>Are you talking about the School Board requirements? Are you still in High >>School, Tim? ;-) I have never heard you speak of children, so you might >>have a valid complaint if you have them in public schools (although home >>schooling is still an option). > >The principle is of interest to even those without schoolaged children! >Neither having schoolaged children nor living in the Oakland Public School >System district is a necessary condition for commenting on the foolishness >of "Ebonics" and other such scams. Only the most naive of commentators says >things like "If your children were not cannibalized by Jeffrey Dahmer, why >do you feel the need to comment on Dahmer?" > >(Sorry, Matthew, but I'm losing any remaining respect for your rhetorical >skills. I used to think we just disagreed politically, now I see more is >involved.) I apparently need to use those twirpy smiley faces more often (see above). I meant that to be funny which I guess it wasnt. One of your (Tim) prior posts clarifies much. That you hold out absolutely no hope for democracy actually lets me in on why you express yourself now like you do. My memory is that you werent always so clear in your expressions of disgust; this memory comes from several non-derogatory uses of the term "suits" when it came to cpunk political action in the past. I agree that democracy has myriads of flaws, but still hold out some hope for change. My comment about such inflaming language was of disappointment because Tim almost single-handedly helped me reconsider many of my traditional political thoughts. It is difficult sometimes to get past the anger in current posts (although I do understand and respect Tim's ability to be absolutely honest about his views which is refreshing.) Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMr22JbpijqL8wiT1AQHbIQQAhX7pj5JqkG55pWkexxn5qRMmlhme44lo ZsHXsfVNWhon2gqPBUvQT7BDEXJvTiiPGcfaAYL5GZV5FqpDOnuvyEBUOWwCoajK oFBHTgHeLL90MRi+py+k5rtofz5wA68M9LDqnNlIsISeTeq9vefBbGmeNIq3mrnv d/eqocuU1aM= =A/LN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Ebonics
by Matthew J. Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:30 PM 12/21/96 -0500, Mark M. wrote: >I never said that the government should force people to speak a certain >language. You are missing the main point: How do you expect to communicate >with an employee who can't speak any language that you can understand? It's >not arbitrary at all. In fact, it's rather simple. I have apparently been excrutiatingly unclear in my last post (tired folks should stay away from their terminals). I wasnt refrencing governmental action, but rather a flaw in some principles. I believe that the line of thought that we should all speak "proper" english leads to anti-libertarian results. What has been missing from my posts is the link to the chain of english-as-an-official-language regulation. Tim's argument for the ability to communicate is somewhat reasonable in an employment context (although it depends largely upon the employment). When it is couched in the terms of his post, it makes the link to the chain of reasoning above much easier to make. Matt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMr28prpijqL8wiT1AQH70AP/TV7qcy3y26yeH+eNvm9MVBY0NfuBGokC uHS1NxpiIxl6NUTXIZTHKjlOd/pGM8JBgV6fp+7o+iruiJWBhE6mql+d/NAWjDiz RLJ8brwuy0sqG98GrwCKHjsc6Bf88v+DcxHxAs92uEqJ6aKeEuqXiITFwKrC9xjf euZxnLm0q6w= =OEgE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Ebonics
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:30 PM 12/22/96 -0500, Mark Rosen wrote: > Hehe. What I mean to say is that since both Ebonics and a Southern accent >are learned during early childhood, you have no control over how you talk. This is not true. The recent commentary and interviews I've seen on this subject make it clear that the people speaking "Ebonics" are quite capable of speaking in standard English, and do so when they find it, er, convenient. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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