December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Anguilla - A DataHaven?
by William Knowles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Arun Mehta wrote: > I'm sure this has come up before, but what would prevent a server > being located on a buoy or something at sea outside territorial > limits (or when satellites become cheaper, on a satellite itself) > offering such services? Something that I thought would make an excellent data haven would be older offshore oil platforms, Their size would allow extended living periods, electrcity and communications are in place, They are generally built outside of the territorial waters of most countries to avoid any damage to the shorelines if oil spilled (possibility for becoming its own country?) and with the hoops that Shell Oil went through to please Greenpeace with its last oil platform. You have to wonder how cheap these could sell for just to get them off the oil companies hands? Comments or suggestions? William Knowles erehwon(a)c2.org -- William Knowles <erehwon(a)c2.org> PGP mail welcome & prefered / KeyID 1024/2C34BCF9 PGP Fingerprint 55 0C 78 3C C9 C4 44 DE 5A 3C B4 60 9C 00 FB BD Finger for public key -- Vote for Harry Browne in November -- http://www.HarryBrowne96.org

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remailers/kiddie porn
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Internet Child Porn An Issue At Stockholm Congress STOCKHOLM - Distribution of child pornography on the Internet seems destined to top the issues at the world's first conference against sexual exploitation of children opening later this month in Stockholm. Activists are trying to devise ways of keeping pedophiles from peddling such material on the global computer network, which is already used as a billboard to advertise prostitution and sex tourism and to exchange adult pornography. But not everyone agrees that regulating the Internet or its 20 million users worldwide is the right move. Some advocates say the Internet represents free speech. Others argue that the distribution of child pornography on the Internet is not that widespread. Still, many see it as a problem. "The Internet is like heaven for the pedophile," said Toby Tyler, a United States police officer who lectures at the FBI Academy on child abuse. "As far as our ability to restrict the distribution of child pornography and stop the sexual exploitation of children on the Internet...it's not something that can be done." Campaigners are concerned that unless urgent action is taken to stamp out the Internet's distribution of child porn, whether it features real children or just computer generated images, it could spark greater demand for child pornography. "Neglecting to prohibit computer generated images could well re-establish the commercial trade -- filling bookstores with computer images, de-sensitizing society and fueling demand for such material," said campaigner Margaret Healy from Bangkok-based End Child Prostitution in Asian Tourism (ECPAT). Tyler said the Internet has ended the days when pedophiles had to make costly cross-border runs to buy child pornography in countries where laws were laxer and penalties lighter. Now they can obtain and distribute films and photos from their own homes on the Internet with little risk of capture. Tyler said the existence of anonymous re-mailers -- computer systems which accept material transmitted over computer lines and send it out again after coding its original address -- concealed the source of pornography on the Internet. "Before on-line sex material was available, you'd to find someone to sell it to you, trade with you, or produce it yourself. The net provides a very high level of safety." Short of denying people access to the network, he added, there was little to be done. Even convicted pedophiles with access to computers in prisons can get the material. However computer experts agree the existence of just one re-mailing system in a country with more lax laws is enough for the global distribution of child pornography on the Internet. Tyler said the most widely used re-mailing system currently operates from Finland, through which about 99 percent of all child pornography with untraceable address codes passes. But Johan Helsingius, who runs a re-mailing system from Helsinki, said he did not think child pornography was a problem on the Internet or that any of the 10,000 messages which pass through his server daily contained child pornography. "To a large extent the net is self-regulating. As soon as you do something that offends enough people, measures will be taken by those who are involved with the net," he said. ECPAT's Healy said in a report prepared for the five-day Stockholm conference that opens on August 27 that the regulation of child pornography on computers presents special challenges and called on governments to fund better training. "The establishment of an international research organization with...specialists in the areas of investigation, law enforcement, behavioral science, prosecution, law and computer technology could be an invaluable resource for the global community," Healy said. Copyright, Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved

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Re: [NOISE] "X-Ray Gun" for imperceptible searches (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:24:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> > Subject: Re: [NOISE] "X-Ray Gun" for imperceptible searches > > Correct. No warrant is required to observe that which is freely collected > after eminating from the residence of another and observed off his > property. > > Same concept applies to the "sniff" test and ariel views into greenhouses. Pitty somebody doesn't bring a suite against the FCC under this logic. It would particularly impact radar detectors, cell phones, and other types of scanners. Jim Choate

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Re: Stealth Buildings Was Re: "X-Ray Gun" for imperceptible searches
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I repeat. Generations of sweating engineers have discovered and confirmed that there is not an easy, "Silver Bullet" cure of the canonical problem of shielding electromagnetic energy from reaching someone who knows how to interpret it. Bill, you are welcome to look at a layer of tin foil and give a sigh of relief that you've shielded your gun or your crypto diskette or your private body parts feom someone who knows what they're doing. Go ahead, chant a mantra too, if it makes you feel better.

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Press Release: Apple's CyberDog Web Bowser
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** PRESS RELEASE *** APPLE COMPUTER UNLEASHES CYBERDOG WEB BOWSER August 15, CUPERTINO. It may be the dog days of summer to some, but to Apple, it's the season CyberDog (tm), its new Web bowser, goes into heat. "CyberDog (tm) is the new dog in town," says Gil Ameliorate, the new leader of the pack at Apple. "CyberDog (tm) should convince our skeptics that Apple is not going to the dogs, except on our own terms. We have always been committed to dogs, as demonstrated by our many Apple and Claris products named after dogs, including Retriever, Pointer, Finder, and Setter." The CyberDog (tm) Bowser (tm) differs from conventional Web browsers by offering several important features built in the Apple mode. Using the OpenDog (tm) object-oriented parts system, Apple is delivering CyberDog with WOOF, the Web OpenDog Object Filer. According to one developer who's used OpenDog and WOOF, "I especially like the way it gets rid of DO loops and replaces them with object-oriented DogDoo loops. It's really bitchin!" The CyberDog (tm) Bowser (tm) offers several additional features, including a security shell called DogPound (tm), a new speech synthesis system called OpenDogBark (tm) and an improvement over Netscape's "cookies," which Apple calls MilkBones (tm). "We lift our legs and piss on Netscape and Microsoft," said Mr. Ameliorate. "We are marking our territory with this release of CyberDog. For those who are dog tired of Netscape and are suffering the lassietude of conventional Web browsers, our new bowser will be the paws that refreshes." Spokesdogs at Apple also confirm that Apple plans to directly compete with Microsoft with an operating system product based on AMD's "K9" chip. The product, known as "WinDog '97," will appear before Copeland, now delayed to 1999. "We think WinDog '97 will chase that other dog out of town." Microsoft could not be reached for comment, but a Netscape spokesman said "Netscape is the cat's meow. That Dog won't hunt. They're barking up the wrong B-tree." Those interested in taking CyberDog out for a walk, or just sniffing its butt, can find further information at: http://www.banana.com/~farce/OpenDogDoo/ CyberDog, OpenDog, Bowser, WOOF, DogPound, OpenDogBark, MilkBones, and WinDog '97 are copyrighted terms of Apple Computer, a member of the NASDOG stock exchange. (Credit to my friend Paul Engel for coming up with the "bowser" pun which inspired me to write this. He also was the first to comment while back that AMD's "K6" clone chip ought to be called the "K9." The rest are mine. I still use Macintoshes, so take this in the spirit of good fun. I do think, though, that "CyberDog" is a really stupid name for a product.)

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Commercial Bundling
by Asgaard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A few days ago Eallensmith forwarded an article, which has lots of references to economic scientific sources, by Andrew Odlyzko, AT&T: 'The bumpy road of electronic commerce'. I didn't know that there is a whole theory of why and when and how bundling of products work in commerce (but I should have guessed). Soon after this article, published August 9, arguing why bundling and subscriptions will take the lead over intelligent agent shopping and personalized micro-retrievement on the net, came the following announcement (quoting Edupage) from MS: >Microsoft has struck deals that will allow it to bundle the Wall Street >Journal's Interactive Addition and ESPN Sports Zone into its new version >3.0 of Internet Explorer browser software ... A networked computer with a bundled MS operating sytem, and a browser already pointing to streamlined information. What more do we need? This really fits in with Odluzko's predictions, and there is more to come. According to Odluzko, bundling is not an evil but actually does good for everyone, mostly (as does different prizes for different customers). And most of us seem to prefer flat rates to pay-per-access. He doesn't mention anything about the coming black market (of crypto-anarchistic flavor), but then it isn't the subject of his essay. Asgaard

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Re: Fw: Re: Free Pronto Secure Offer
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry Metzger wrote: >From: Bart Croughs You haven't answered this question yet. I don't claim that the U.S. is worse off when US capital moves abroad. I only ask: how can you proof that the US isn't worse off when US capital moves abroad?< Simple. Keeping capital from flowing wherever it likes leads to a non-pareto optimal state. Care to dispute that? Perry - - - - - - - - - For those who don't know what the Pareto optimum is: it's an allocation of resources such that no one can be made better off without someone else being made worse off. So what you say is that you can't keep capital from flowing wherever it likes without someone being made worse off. Of course I do not dispute this; obviously, the US investors will be worse off when you forbid them to invest where they want to invest. But this is not a proof that the rest of the US citizens will not be worse off when American investors decide to invest abroad. And that is the proof I'm asking for. Bart Croughs

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Re: Schlafly helped defeat ERA, supported Goldwater--where do I sign up?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:48 AM 8/15/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 1:53 PM 8/15/96, Declan McCullagh wrote: >>Take a look at the Boston Coalition for Freedom of Expression's list of >>enemies of free expression. Excerpt follows. >>Linkname: Phyllis Schlafly, Eagle Forum >>Filename: http://www.eff.org/pub/Groups/BCFE/bcfenatl.html#Schlafly >> >> Phyllis Schlafly >.... >> "Leading the pro-family movement to victories since 1972." Basic >> membership includes a subscription to The Phyllis Schlafly Report and >> costs $15.00. Mrs. Schlafly, whose husband Fred used to head the World >> Anti-Communist League, is the person considered most responsible for >> the defeat of the ERA. Her book A Choice Not an Echo, published in > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> 1964 to support the presidential aspirations of Barry Goldwater, is > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> one of the seminal texts of contemporary American conservative >> politics. > >So, she helped defeat the ERA and supported Goldwater. Sounds pretty good >to me. From this excerpt, I'd call her a friend of liberty. I think it's interesting that one of the most effective methods the Democrats used to defeat Goldwater was the fear that he would get us into war (Girl and daisy ad, for example) and when Johnson was elected he promptly got us into the Vietnam war. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Stopped Clock. Was: Schlafly on Crypto
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Speaking as someone who seldom agrees with Phyllis Schlafly...and not meaning to be overly ignorant or paranoid or disrespectful, but is there any link between her column and Roger Schlafly, as in: Schlafly v. Public Key Partners & RSA Data Security, Case C-94-20512 SW PVT or is it mere coincidence. Reminds me of the Doonesbury cartoon of conspiracy theorists, circa O.J. case: "Wait a minute, Hertz has an office in Dallas." "Coincidence?" "I don't think so." Stephen

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