June 2006 - cypherpunks-legacy

The Liberty Dollar
by Gary Jeffers 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

My fellow Cypherpunks, The Liberty Dollar My fellow Cypherpunks, I think I may have some really great news here, but you all can check it out to be sure. I found an alternative money on the Internet. It is called the Liberty Dollar. The Internet site is: http://www.norfed.org NORFED is The National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code. The money is backed by silver and gold and can be redeemed widely in America. As many of you know, the $US is a corrupt, proprietary, debt issued, fait, fractional reserved,illegal, unconstituional, U. S. State enforced monopoly currency. As corrupt as it is I don't know why it hasn't already collasped and dragged us down with it! If the Liberty Dollar is honest and robust, then it may be the vehical to beat the elite bankers tyranny and give us an honest wealth produced money. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers BEAT STATE !!!!

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RE: Cypherpunks IQ Test
by Aimee Farr 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Mike: Are you often the victim of mercenary females? > -----Original Message----- > From: mmotyka(a)lsil.com [mailto:mmotyka@lsil.com] > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:28 PM > To: aimee.farr(a)pobox.com > Subject: Cypherpunks IQ Test > > > It's an obvious setup. The woods are part of a defense installation, > apple is filled with coke, the girl is underage, the woods are full of > trigger happy fibbies. > > You hit the ground and roll into the brush, drawing on the way. You > attempt to locate opponents and identify the safest route away from the > situation. > > Mike > > > >CYPHERPUNKS IQ TEST > > > >QUESTION #1. > > > >You are walking through the woods alone. A beautiful unclothed woman > >magically appears in front of you. She holds out an apple. > > > >1. Please darken in the correct choice using a Number Two pencil: > > > >(a) you bite the apple. > >(b) you take the woman. > >(c) you run away. > >(d) a and b, but not c. > >(e) b and c only. > >(f) all of the above. > >(g) none of the above. > > > >2. Please justify your answer: > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________. > > > > > >Just curious.... > > > > -Aimee

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More on "new physics"
by Tim May 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

Someone sent me a private note. I have deleted his name for this public reply. > Tim May wrote: > > >> The "new physics" stuff is quite different. It is scorned in a way >> that plate tectonics was not, and for good reason. Folks should visit >> Bearden's site. http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/index.html > > I did. Oh, dear. > > Not sure what is supposed to be denoted by "Tesla physics", but Tesla's > work with power transmission via HF is fascinating, even if there was > apparently no practical or safe use for it. No one disputes the outstanding work Tesla did on a.c. transmission. And anyone who has seen or used a Tesla coil knows how real it is. "Tesla physics" is all the cruft that has developed around some of his more obscure (and late) writings, usually mixed together with stuff Tesla could not have known about at the time of his death. To wit, the stuff about zero point energy and perpetual motion machines. And, sometimes, mixed together with the usual nutcase stuff about the Hollow Earth theory (zeta reticulans colonizing the hollow earth, Greys, underground UFO bases, secret Nazi weapons, etc.). Tesla is a hero to these "new physics" nuts, even though nothing Tesla ever worked on or built contradicts in the slightest way the predictions of Maxwell's theories. They take Tesla's very real contributions and some of his weirder theories (though none of them so weird as the Hollow Earth/antigravity/time reversal theories of modern nutters) and say that this means "They laughed at Tesla, they laugh at me!" BTW, I was/am an early ("angel") investor in a company doing work on ultrawideband transmissions. Some of the works Bearden cites, like those of Barrett, are familiar to me and others with this company. Saying that there is a role for ultrawideband pulse technology, a la spread spectrum and beyond SS, is NOT the same as saying there are confirmed "problems" with electromagnetic theory. There may be, and there are a handful of folks doing "foundational" work in E&M, but, so far, there are no indications that their foundational work is changing any engineering calculations. Quite the contrary, in my view. Electromagnetic theory basically "works"--to many decimal places of accuracy. Circuits work as expected, antennas work as expected, and there are no "unexplained observations" (as usually exist before a new theory arrives). There may be some _semantic_ issues, e.g., does a square wave or impulse "really" have components that were sent out _before_ the square wave or impulse? (A Fourier decomposition of a square wave starting at time t = 0 has "sine wave components" spread out over time and adding up in such a way as to give the square wave, or the impulse, or any other signal. Some think this means deep and mysterious things are happening, something having to do with time travel and reversing the aging process, blah blah blah. Henning Harmuth may write fairly eloquently about the "dogma of the circle" and how the Fourier decomposition of a signal into (allegedly) a near-infinite series of sine waves is "not real," but for all intents and purposes it all works. And the "new physics" people like Bearden go way beyond what Harmuth and Barrett are talking about: they bring in "curved space-time" and gravitation and antigravity and the ultra-weird notion that aging can be reversed by "pumping the conjugate time-axis of the Minkowski manifold" (OK, I made this up...don't have time to lift one of Bearden's direct quotes...and this will help train me in the jargon if I ever become a "new physicist."). Nut cases like Bearden have the patter of physics down. Very few actual physicists waste their time dissecting and refuting Bearden for obvious reasons. I urge readers of this list not to waste time on this stuff. --Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. "--Thomas Jefferson, 1787

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Re: A Trial Balloon to Ban Email?
by Declan McCullagh 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

At 09:57 AM 5/14/2003 -0400, Sunder wrote: >Yes, but how will you stop the spammer from double spending the same $0.25 >micropayment on all of his 170,000 email addresses? Depending on whether >you check that there is a payment attached or not, and also check it with >the bank before delivering it, you'd have already wasted your bandwith and >possibly have accepted a spam into your mail spool. It is true that the notions of micropayments as applied to spam (that I'm familiar with, at least) would require that the email recipient check with the bank to detect doublespending. This would introduce an additional delay before delivery from unknown senders, yes, but I fail to see how it would impose an unacceptable cost in bandwidth or CPU usage. Spammers could still try the same-micropayment-a-million-times route, just as they could try to spam without micropayments, but if their email is rejected in sufficient quantities, the cost to the spammer would outweigh the benefits. The key is achieving sufficient quantities. -Declan

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Re: AP Al Qaeda
by mattd 05 Jul '18

05 Jul '18

>>No, no. AP is funny because it's impracticeable. One does not find an assassin exclusively by tracing who paid him to kill. One can (and often does) find him because he makes a mistake in the act of commiting the crime. Which, if I'm >>reading my history right, is what's hampered the noisy proponents of AP up to this point already. Crime? Wot crime,guvnor? Jim and CJ were not 'noisy'.imo. Im a bit noisy cos Im pushing the 'let it all hang out' version. >The point is that Bell's theory does a really good job of sorting out the business end of assassination,...< Oh THATS funny.I get it. HAHAHA! >>Killing one person, especially a public official, pisses a whole bunch of people off. Those people have a tendency to come find their buddy's killer. Mmm,where do we start,lets get some firebrands and go up to the proffrs? Look at sites with no logs for quad anon 'predictors' who may be overseas briefly visiting cybercafes,Good luck china.(you just contradicted yrself btw.) Oh,unless you mean the torture/french village reprisal thang.Win friends and influence people. The one person killed will have had to have done a lot of evil shit to get enough pooled (presumably) to tempt a seasoned pro.Unless some professional killer turns all altruistic,stranger things have happened.The killer could be suicidal.another possibility.Lots of scenarios possible here,movie scripts,even.Pop songs,video games.DoCoMo assasinphones. Someone like a torturer,murderer,terrorist,pedophile is a logical candidate.(stephen roach?)Sometimes these happen to be public officials.Theres one here where I live named dennis Tanner.(vic.au) Those killers by remote control like arbusto might be be made more accountable. What better way than...Bell's theory, "a really good job of sorting out the business end of assassination"according to you. KILL THE PRESIDENT! "Id buy that for a dollar!" >>No kind of real or threatened assassination can weaken a government in which a majority of the governed people >believe. It can only make it seem more righteous and be more strong. Thats true,roll over and go back to sleep,if you live under that govt you have nothing to worry about. More righteous and more smug.

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Re: wars of attrition & reverse rubber hose & the ineffectiveness of direct lethal violence against the state
by coderman 01 Jan '07

01 Jan '07

On 3/8/06, Tyler Durden <camera_lumina(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > ... > ON THE OTHER HAND, one does't need huge numbers of people wielding baseball > bats... i like to think you don't need any bats at all; waging direct lethal violence against the largest and best equipped military in the world (esp. adding up police, swat, n.guard, military, etc) fuels their propaganda machine and gets you crushed like an ant under foot. bomb throwers and assassins get no sympathy from the public no matter justified your perceived grievances. cutting at the heart of this nation-scale responsibility diffusion machine requires taxing communication and commerce engines which make its very existence possible. this tax is applied in the form of continued and targeted infrastructure disruption against those entities which are refusing and deflecting oversight and accountability for their actions, and all those who serve them directly or indirectly. punks with portable saws and thermic lances slicing fiber and junking equipment is much more palatable to the public when used against entities already perceived unpopular and abusive to fundamental rights. we've already talked about data mining and critical infrastructure analysis to direct such attacks in the most effective manner possible. although somehow i think this will get you a more severe response than killing random yes men (despite the fact this is limited to property damage alone). hmmm, the information required to organize such efforts would be a good fit for the blacknet.

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Re: "A million bucks in stolen calls"
by coderman 26 Aug '06

26 Aug '06

On 6/8/06, mikeiscool <michaelslists(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/9/06, Tyler Durden <camera_lumina(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Wow. One guy and a hacker rerouted VoIP calls and in the process collected > > $1MM in fees. Lots of crypto & cypherpunkly implications here. > > Sorry to double-post, but does anyone think Tor + encryption use > would've saved this guy? it's hard to sheild income, hence the advice to inflate expenses when fudging taxes rather than trying to hide incoming funds. these guys were making too much money to stay covert for long, so i don't think tor or encryption of comms or data would have helped. it might have delayed the inevitable a bit, but that's all. "Authorities said that to hide profits from his scheme, which ran from November 2004 to May 2006, Pena bought real estate, three luxury vehicles and a 40-foot motorboat." -- that's not a good way to hide funds :)

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[dave@farber.net: [IP] The Newbie's Guide to Detecting the NSA]
by Eugen Leitl 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

Which idiot would assume his specific location is excluded? Especially, if it's a long-distance (transcontinental) link? ----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> -----

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Re: Scott Marcus Declaration
by John Young 04 Jul '06

04 Jul '06

I don't know who else may be working on restoring redactions. Just pick a heavily redacted paragraph or page and post it here, retaining the paragraph number. We're moving very slowly on it. Exhibit A is not identifiable. Based on references by Marcus: Klein Exhibit B appears to be Wired's release of Klein's "Study Group 3, LGX/Splitter Wiring, San Francisco, Issue 1, 12/20/2002." This 4-page excerpt appears to be taken from a longer, 40-page document referred to by Marcus. Klein Exhibit C appears to be Wired's release of Klein's "SIMS, Splitter Cut-In and Test Procedures, Issue 2, 01/13/03." This is a 4-page document. Most of the Klein and ATT documents are in this file: http://cryptome.org/klein-decl.htm Or linked, where we made an earlier stab at restoring Klein's redactions Or the Exhibits B and C can be downloaded at Wired, Ryan Singel's blog. The recent Scott Marcus declaration, as noted earlier, is here: http://cryptome.org/scott-marcus.pdf Klein's statement released through his lawyer is in the Cryptome file as well, or can be downloaded from Wired, Ryan Singel's blog. A lot of the Marcus redactions concern "SG3" and "LGX," with SG3 customarily used with "Configuration." LGX usually refers to the "LGX room" or "LGX/Splitter" project. As Marcus notes, LGX is short for LGX/Splitter. After chewing the bone, it looks as though most of the stuff can be recovered or PG guessed.

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/. [Congress May Add Record Requirements to MySpace]
by Eugen Leitl 30 Jun '06

30 Jun '06

Whee! Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/30/1336243 Posted by: Zonk, on 2006-06-30 14:26:00 An anonymous reader writes "CNet is reporting that Congress may be working to [1]extend the record retention requirements they're already working on for ISPs to social networking sites. Sites such as MySpace or FaceBook would be required to hold onto content access records for an unspecified length of time." From the article: "In those meetings, Justice Department representatives went beyond the argument that data retention was necessary to protect children--and claimed it would aid in terrorism investigations as well. During Wednesday's hearing, politicians also claimed that social-networking sites were not doing enough to verify that their users who claimed to be a certain age were telling the truth. (Recent news reports have said that sex predators are using MySpace and similar sites to meet up with teens.)" References 1. http://news.com.com/Congress+targets+social-networking+sites/2100-1028-6089… 4.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e433 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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