December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: THE JEWS (ALL of them!) Try to kick Ernst Zundel off Usenet!!
by ErnstZundl＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> if he's out there convincing Neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers >> to go freeze to death at the South pole, as that really >> anti-semitic? DUH!! Nobody is going to freeze to death if they dress warmly. That is just a myth about Antarctica. It is really a tropical paradise, but THE JEWS don't want you to know that. Besides, we will all be going *inside* a VOLCANO! Even if somehow Antarctica were freezing cold, we will be plenty warm inside the volcano which leads to the Aryan Nazi UFO Base at the center of the Earth. I am not asking Nazis and Holocaust deniers to freeze to death! I am inviting them to jump into a volcano, you fool!

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Re: THE JEWS (ALL of them!) Try to kick Ernst Zundel off Usenet!!
by ErnstZundl＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Surley you can't expect us to belive people wrote that? Who do you propose wrote it then? Aryan Space Nazis?

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RE: Don't type your yes/fraud response into your computer
by A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Nice try - but the virtual machine model used by intel supports interception >of I/O operations. (something educating prior generations how to apply a near vacuum to shelled embryos). Sure it does - why it is essential for protective activity to begin while the system is still in REAL mode following boot. Might also need to write a .VXD (horrors) >I still think the basic 'if the machine is not secure all bets are off' >premis stands. Oh I agree, just believe that software can make a machine secure (or at least detect when security cannot be assured which is almost as good). Might I suggest you take a look at the "safe PC" discussions on Virus-L c.a 1989-1990. We were talking about virus protection then but is the same thing. Believe it or not, we even had real and protected mode discussions back in those days while we were waiting for Noah (only guy who ever took out a cattle boat and wound up half-way up a mountain...). Warmly, Padgett

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Aegis PGP Shell
by paralax＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Gordon Campbell wrote: GRC> After doing a total reinstall of my system (don't ask) I discovered that I GRC> don't have a copy of the Aegis PGP Shell distribution archive anywhere. I GRC> attempted to grab it from http://iquest.com/~aegisrc as listed in the docs, GRC> but the site doesn't exist. GRC> Doesn anybody know what gives and where I can get a new copy of the archive? GRC> I really like this shell and haven't figured out how to otherwise integrate GRC> PGP with EudoraPro. GRC> Gordon R. Campbell, Owner - Mowat Woods Graphics >From alt.security.pgp another reader writes: > It seems that iquest.com has dropped off the net today so the > normal url: http://iquest.com/~aegisrc/beta2.htm is > unavailable. With the weather around here right now, I doubt > it will be up any time soon. > I've created a very quick mirror site at: > http://fly.hiwaay.net/~lyman/pgpwsbeta.htm > Please use it only if you cannot connect to the first url. A. Paralax View

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Re: [noise] Re: Charter of PDX Cpunk meetings
by bernardo＠alpha.c2.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jim bell wrote: >> I think an explanation for this is due. Jim is going to move his complaints >> here instead of dealing with them with me no matter what I do... > > Alan Olsen is correct, here. This is childish and pointless. Please shut up or take it to email. > But he (the anonymous poster): > 1. FLamed me on this national list, similarly to the way Alan Olsen later did. FWIW, this is an _international_ list with a lot of people who are just not interested in your petty bickering. If you want to argue about this, please do it in private. If Alan posts responses to the list, that's his problem. You don't _have_ to answer in public. > 2. Failed to be willing to sustain the debate in a more appropriate list, > even under a stable nym. You have something against anonymity? In this case, perhaps this list is not the best place to be. > that I had been flamed by that anonymous poster. The fact that he was > anonymous says it all. The fact that he has not returned says it all. The The fact that he was anonymous says nothing whatsoever. So what if you received some email agreeing that you'd been flamed? > the fact that I am relatively new here. I have no intention of inflicting > an unwelcome discussion of "Assassination Politics" on the list, and Actually, and Perry may disagree here, but I'd have no objection to a discussion of "Assassination Politics", or any other nutty political theories, as long as we can stick to reasonably mature discussion and not flames and petty ego boosting. > suffered any longterm loss of reputation of his own. I, on the other hand, > use my REAL NAME. Whoopie! A True Name! Big deal. I care not one jot whether or not you use your REAL NAME. I have no way of knowing if it is, in fact, your real name. Should it make a difference? No one is going to "suffer any longterm loss of reputation" by disagreeing with you, or anyone else, whether or not they use a nym (or anonymity). > Only a fool would have taken an anonymous flamer seriously under those > circumstances. An anonymous post is no less valid for being anonymous. The only advantage of a stable nym, whether or not it's a True Name, is the ability to gain (or lose) reputation through the content of its posts. Perhaps a nym with some reputation is taken more seriously than an anonymous poster, but so is an unknown nym. Neither you nor Alan has any reputation to speak of (to me, at least), so an anonymous post has no less. >> Jim ignored that request and I removed him from the list. > > Read: "Alan Olsen exercised his authority in his own personal fiefdom, the > "PDX Cypherpunks list." Are you saying he doesn't have that right? If it's his list, he can do whatever the hell he likes with it. > On the contrary, I have no interest in dealing with this sleazy character in > email. He was the one who chose a national list to do his flaming and > baiting, and I think he deserves full "credit." In other words, you are not interested in resolving any problem you have with Alan, you just to make a lot of noise in public in an attempt to "embarrass" him. Go play on some other list where this kind of thing is appreciated. >> The following is the last I will say publically on the matter. > > You're going to take your bat and ball and "go thwait home!" You hear your > mommy calling, Alan. This list periodically devolves into this childishness. I'm glad Alan is not going to say any more. I award Alan 20 Reputation Points for being mature enough to walk away (delayed long enough to see whether he does)

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Encryption Programs
by avatar＠mindspring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OBVIOUSLY the spokesman of the group. I ask for help and this is what I get? One more time, I'm well aware of the capabilities of PGP. What I'm looking for is a program that does a better job of binary encryption than just Radix 64 ASCII armoring. >Return-Path: remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:40:07 +0100 >To: avatar(a)mindspring.com >From: anon-remailer(a)utopia.hacktic.nl (Name Withheld by Request) >Organization: Hack-Tic International, Inc. >XComm: This message was automaticly Remailed by an Anonymous Remailer. >XComm: Report inappropriate use to <postmaster(a)utopia.hacktic.nl> >Subject: Encryption Programs >From: House.of.the.Rising.Sun(a)utopia.hacktic.nl > > > wow, a fresh newbie with his first toy! your lights work, too? > cypherpunks is not for you if you need to ask for encryption.... > > there's only one encryption program which is both simple and > effective: PGP. if you don't know where to find it, use DEC's Alta > Vista web search engine in advanced mode for "mit NEAR pgp" > > you can get a DOS image. there are some windows interfaces I > have been told, but fuck Bill Gates and horse he rode in on. > > maybe some day, you'll find enlightenment on choice of operating > systems... instead of following the herd to Gate's bank of mindless. > > >>From avatar(a)mindspring.comSun Feb 4 09:06:32 1996 >Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 23:17:09 -0600 >From: avatar(a)mindspring.com >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Searching for the best > >Hi, Folks > > I am looking for the best file encryption program and the best file >wiping program. >PC compatible, perferably Win 95 compatible. > Thanx >Charles Donald Smith Jr. >582 Clifton Rd. N.E. >Atlanta, Ga. 30307-1787 >(404)-378-7282 > >REPUBLICAN; smaller government, less taxes, richer people, and proud children!! > > Charles Donald Smith Jr. 582 Clifton Rd. N.E. Atlanta, Ga. 30307-1787 (404)-378-7282 REPUBLICAN; smaller government, less taxes, richer people, and proud children!!

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Re: Alien factoring breakthroughs
by Andrew.Spring＠ping.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The Grays have renegged on their abduction quota agreement, and are >abducting many more people than before. Most of these are returned, after >being implanted with a device which allows the grays to have total control >over their thoughts and actions. Approximately 40% of Americans now carry >one of these devices, which are impossible to remove without killing the >host. > The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability. Your theory fails here, because you could perform autopsies on those hosts who have died of natural causes to recover the mind control devices. Suggest you amend the last sentence to read "...one of these devices, which dissolve immediately upon death, and which are impossible to remove..." etc, etc.

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RE: Don't type your yes/fraud response into your computer
by A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> At base, the moral to the story is that a compromised user machine >permits essentially any and all activities to be suborned. Only a smart >card mechanism stands a chance of standing up to this, but that, in effect, >makes the smart card the 'user machine'. True and has been one reason the smartcards/tokens/etc have been available for years. The other side of the coin is expense - for a smart card and reader you are looking at over $100. For a token alone (you enter the one-time response) $30-$60. In a mass-market environment, this is not supportable. OTOH, keyboard sniffing software is easy to detect because it must go resident and it must intercept the keystrokes. The fact that no software has bothered to do this does not mean that it cannot be done. The easiest way for such software to act would be to ignore the machine software and when sensitive material is to be passed, to do so via direct port (hardware) access - been a while since I looked at it but AFAIR is around port 60h. (PC type machines) This would take care of anything sitting on Int 09 or Int 16 since it would be bypassed. Often a problem that looks difficult when viewed as a whole becomes simple once you disassemble it. Rather than try to find a workaround for a machine you do not trust, why not develop a means to trust it ? Can do with software alone and that is cheap. Warmly, Padgett ps Dave, what is this thingie on the 21st ? May be in the area (opportunity for plug here 8*). pps Before y'all get too wrapped up in free-speech vs libel in the US I would suggest studying the difference between criminal law and civil.

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Re: [NOISE] Futplex makes the news!
by A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>James Donald may characterize me as gutless. I think he would probably be >correct to some extent. "Freedom is just another word for nothing more to lose." - Janis P.fla

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"Nations see Internet as threat to security"
by Mike Ang 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Nations see Internet as threat to security" made the front page of the Saturday _Globe and Mail_. There are some really nice lines in the article, which basically states that electronic freedoms through the Internet are a direct challenge to the power of nation states. They mention all of the more recent examples in China, Germany, France, and the States. Here are some of the more interesting paragraphs: But as China, Germany,

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