December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by 61033134＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Info on Netscape's key escrow position
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"jsw(a)netscape.com" "Jeff Weinstein" 2-DEC-1995 02:26:13.63 I had lunch with Jim Clark today, and explained the furor that was currently going on in cypherpunks and elsewhere. After lunch he sent me the e-mail that I've attached below to pass along. I think the gist of it is that if governments require key escrow, we will have to do it in order to sell our products with encryption into those countries. > If we as a company were to take the position that in no case will we allow > a government to get access to our encrypted messages, or refuse to allow > key escrow with our products, the governments of the world will quickly put > us out of business by outlawing the sale of our products in their countries. > The fundamental issue is how do we accommodate the requirements of > governments, while protecting our rights as citizens. > > None of this represents the position of Netscape with respect to what we > will do. But if we do not come up with a solution to this problem that is > acceptable to each government, we will not be able to export our products, > except with a short key length (e.g. 40 bit keys), and that will not be > acceptable to corporate customers in other countries. They will create their > own solution, and we will not be able to sell to a larger world market. In > fact, we could even be ordered by our own government to establish a key > escrow system for its use inside the US. ---------------------- I believe that the central question at hand is whether Netscape will incorporate mandatory GAK into any of its products if you have an economic (governmental purchase) rather than physical (governmental threat of violence) reason to do so. I would hope that the upcoming statement will clarify this position, and in the proper direction. -Allen

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Re: y2k as ideological opportunity.
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>[IRS collection mechanism collapses due to y2k problem] If such a thing actually happened, I strongly suspect they'd activate the contingency plan that was developed to maintain tax collection after nuclear war; a flat 20% sales tax, collected (I think) by surviving Post Office employees. Come to think of it, that might be better than what we have now.... Peter Trei trei(a)process.com Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation http://www.process.com trei(a)process.com

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Re: y2k as ideological opportunity.
by Chip Mefford 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>[IRS collection mechanism collapses due to y2k problem] > >If such a thing actually happened, I strongly suspect they'd >activate the contingency plan that was developed to maintain >tax collection after nuclear war; a flat 20% sales tax, >collected (I think) by surviving Post Office employees. > >Come to think of it, that might be better than what we have >now.... > > Naw, its gonna be real simple and clean. The bid goes out, Billgatus of Borg brings in a crapload of DEC/NT partner machines, puts 500 programmers on porting the tasking and data to Office 98, retrains the IRS on Office, Slides right past Oct 1999 without a hitch, you bring up M$ money on yer desktop and yer Fed Tax Check goes straight to Redmond, who in turn pays out a percentage to their new partners, the Fed. The US of MS, hahahahaha luv chipper Zz zZ |\ z _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' _ ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'_' '---''(_/--' `-'\_)

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Re: GAK, Netscape, CyberDog, and you.
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bob, Please stop this habit of cross-posting to every mailing list; 999 times out of a thousand the resultant discussion helps neither list. And my god, five lists this time, at least some of which have over a thousand readers? NB: Followups redirected. /r$

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McCain on the radio, 9/22
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Sen. McCain is scheduled to be a guest on the Diane Rehm show, Monday 9/22 10:00-11:00, 88.5 (in DC) or 88.1 (in Balto). This show is carried elsewhere in the country, so I'm cc:ing cypherpunks. - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCKTuVQXJENzYr45AQGhgAP9EtpiDkBvUDp85cdvbX3dvQXSDBvbwte1 K0gGxWscycNWnTbrpSZVRZ/ud/rm4GY/oiUS5lZbebwfsvAejyihUPWKxK1FTaz9 dE3Zm9TLdn9hzZdK0X2PhUPsHCsymZtmVB+N5zrd1m7QAptM6vX+aOBHWAwWZBie lh8KTIV3TJk= =XizX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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John Gage's comments at Computer Security Day in Cleveland
by fc＠all.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Gave gave an interesting pitch for Java at the CSSI Computer Security Day sessions in Cl;evelan yesterday (November 30). Among his comments were: Java is not secure - it is "safe" He (John Gage) regularly downloads binary executables from the Internet and runs them on his workstation at Sun - (connected to the internal Sun network). Sun has terrible physical security - unknown people roam the halls at night all by themselves. In 2 years, you will be able to buy a computer that does more than a Sparc now does, in a portable package the size of a cell phone, with more than 30 million bits per second of mobile bandwidth direct to the Internet, for less than $30. -> See: Info-Sec Heaven at URL http://all.net/ Management Analytics - 216-686-0090 - PO Box 1480, Hudson, OH 44236

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Re: Getting a copy of the Jim Clark speech
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:38 AM 12/1/95 +0600, Ed Carp wrote: >The only problem with this approach is that this will bite other >browsers that have started supporting the so-called "Netscape >extensions". More than one person has coded the Netscape stuff into >their pages because it gives the author more flexibility than the >standard 1.0/2.0 standards. And there aren't many browsers out there >yet that support 3.0. http://www.netmanage.com/ have a free browser that supposedly supports 3.0 -- I have not tested it yet, though I downloaded it a short while ago. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: ALERT: On Monday, call Congress to stop Big Brother amendment!
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 02:47 PM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote: >3. Say that you're calling to urge the Congressman to pass SAFE (HR695) > without amendments. Does that mean Goodlatte's original bill, or the bill as amended already by the National Security Subcommittee? I believe you should be more specific in your instructions -- suggesting that people ask for the bill to be voted against unless it is exactly as it was prior to the Natl Sec involvement. ..or, assuming it's going to be amended and we can't stop that, ask people to ask for a vote against the bill -- not for it. I'm worried that the person on the phone will check the box under "vote for" and not puzzle out the amendment level. If bills changed number when amended, this wouldn't be such a problem -- but as it is, I really worry. - Carl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNCKoDVQXJENzYr45AQEYwAQAh3Z5IDymS1G44qi1B0HdlVEAtmZHwhum 4KrINQpJW/pX37QCiiAklLpsvkBP2MAvGTB5HMfhBTdwzWqXfDZ6ZS2WTem3HIti CYrNvenIhfwQpAmzspCjTo6rXgExxKF96d++AescmmWUJRcA5LkqwI7HeBZkq4qb EcxDhF6SYkk= =AEyU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)cybercash.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme | |CyberCash, Inc. http://www.cybercash.com/ | |207 Grindall Street PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2 | |Baltimore MD 21230-4103 T:(410) 727-4288 F:(410)727-4293 | +------------------------------------------------------------------+

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NSC Announce
by wiltship＠iccu6.ipswich.gil.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thought this might be of interest.... From: ipSecure <ipsecure(a)ipower.nsc.com> Subject: iPower home page/CryptoSampler announcement Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 15:53:55 PDT For Immediate Release Contact: National Semiconductor Lori Sinton (408) 721-2448 lori(a)ipower.nsc.com http://www.ipsecure.com CryptoSampler, from National Semiconductor, Demonstrates Ease of Building Secure Electronic Commerce and Communications Applications Company's iPower(tm) Business Unit Launches Free CryptoSolver to Inaugurate New Web Site SANTA CLARA, Calif., November 27, 1995 --- National Semiconductor Corporation today announced the availability of its CryptoSampler package for applications developers interested in gaining a "hands on" understanding of how cryptography solves modern business problems. Developed by National's iPower Business Unit, the program consists of three demonstration applications and the PersonaCard(tm) 100, a hardware token for personal, portable data security. The package contains both the demonstration applications including "build-it- yourself" tools to integrate security easily into electronic commerce and communications applications. Priced at $129, the CryptoSampler package is available to the first 1,000 U. S. respondents and can be ordered directly from National's iPower Business Unit. In a related move, the company's iPower Business Unit launched its own web site along with CryptoSolver, an interactive game that invites participants to solve encrypted messages based on the concepts of substitution ciphers and the alphabetic frequency table. CryptoSolver, a technology-teaser game rates players' deciphering skills and can be downloaded from iPower's new web site free. "As networks become the lifeblood of corporations and the principal means of commerce, securing electronic transactions and proprietary information over public and private networks is absolutely critical," said Tom Rowley, marketing director for National's iPower Business Unit. "Through this program, we hope to help broaden individual's understanding of how modern security technology can solve real problems on the Internet and in Electronic Commerce business applications," Rowley explained. CryptoSampler Package - Token Plus Three Applications in One ------------------------------------------------------------ The CryptoSampler package consists of a PersonaCard 100 data security token, a floppy disk containing all three demonstration applications, a cryptography primer written by recognized cryptography expert Bruce Schneier, and a questionnaire. Customers who choose to complete and return the questionnaire, will receive a free copy, while supplies last, of Bruce Schneier's newly-released book, Applied Cryptography, second edition. o PersonaScreen(tm) System Lockout Utility is a screen locker that prevents unauthorized entry into a personal computer by locking the keyboard and mouse. The PersonaCard Token, implemented in the PC Card (formerly PCMCIA) Type II format, locks and unlocks the desktop computer. o PersonaSecure(tm) Word Utility enables users to sign, seal (encrypt, decrypt), and verify documents as well as e-mail messages from within Microsoft Word 6.0 for Windows. Installed automatically, PersonaSecure displays a toolbar that corresponds to the functions of National's PersonaCard data security token. The hardware token incorporates RSA's industry-standard digital signature and encryption formats which are now "token aware." In addition to protecting and validating Microsoft Word documents, users can encrypt and decrypt e-mail messages with others who have installed the PersonaSecure Word Utility. o PersonaDLL Library for Visual BASIC 3.0 is a Dynamic Link Library (DLL) of routines that enables developers to quickly and easily develop their own applications incorporating high-level data security features. PersonaDLL includes a Visual BASIC application, Visual BASIC source code, and access to all of the features of the PersonaCard 100 token including digital signatures, RSA key generation, encryption, and verification. System requirements to run the CryptoSampler package are: Microsoft Windows 3.X, Windows for Workgroups 3.X, and a PC Card slot (version 2.1 or later). Microsoft Word 6.0 is required for the PersonaSecure Word Utility. Pricing and Availability ------------------------ The CryptoSampler package is available with or without a PC Card Reader. For those who plan to run CryptoSampler applications on a desktop or portable personal computer already equipped with a PC Card slot, the basic package is offered at a special price of $129 (including handling and shipping). A CryptoSampler package with PC Card reader is available for $199. The total retail value of the basic package and configuration with card reader is $300 and $500, respectively. To order the CryptoSampler package in either configuration, call 1-800-272-9959 Ext# 631 between the hours of 7 AM and 7 PM Central Standard Time. To play CryptoSolver and for more information about the CryptoSampler program, see the iPower web site at http://www.ipsecure.com . iPower Security Solutions ------------------------- Introduced a year ago, iPower technology provides the highest-level of commercially available security in a personal, portable hardware token. iPower solutions are already being incorporated by OEMs, ISVs, and VARs into a variety of applications and hardware platforms including e-mail and messaging, electronic commerce, network security, and secure access to on-line services including the Internet. National Semiconductor Corporation provides technologies for moving and shaping information. The company focuses on four key areas - communications, consumer, industrial, and personal systems. National Semiconductor is headquartered in Santa Clara, California, and has 22,300 employees worldwide. -30- Note to Editors: To receive a CryptoSampler package for review, call or e-mail Lori Sinton, 408 721-2448 or sampler(a)ipower.nsc.com iPower and PersonaCard are trademarks of National Semiconductor Corporation. All other trademarks are held by their respective companies Flight to Quality Wiltshire Productions Pty Ltd Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Intl Voice 61 7 3376 3535 Intl Fax 61 7 3279 4027 Email wiltship(a)gil.com.au PGP Key ID 3E584C7D PGP Fingerprint 01 03 FB F4 BE F8 2B F3 5D 84 6B 69 37 80 FE 10

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