December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Children and the Net
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Berzerk wrote: > The search warrent talks about having guns and "clandestine" >*publications* and neve authorizes breaking into windows to serve a >NORMAL search warrent. > What kind of publications are we talking about? -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> PGP public key by finger

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Re: Anonymous code name allocated. // penet hack
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:53 PM 08/01/94 -0700, Lyman Hazelton wrote: > No, and I don't either, but now someone else can use those accounts and >LOOK like they are you or me (or anyone else here). Now suppose some >twit decides to use one or more of those accounts to send threatening >messages to the president or some other stupid thing... who are they >going to come after, do you suppose? NOT a nice scenario! Looks like the perfect way to 'prove' the need for stamping out anonymous communications...Run a hack like this, turn it into a huge madia event, realize an innocent was falsely accused becuase of some psycho pervert computer geek, and push through your law. Slicker than Polly Klaas, and almost as good for re- election material (apologies to non-Californians).

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Encrypted text illegal across US borders?
by baum＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been told that it is illegal for us to transmit encrypted text to locations outside the borders of the US (i.e. sending email across the Atlantic that is encrypted). Is this true? ************************************************** * Allen J. Baum tel. (408)974-3385 * * Apple Computer, MS/305-3B * * 1 Infinite Loop * * Cupertino, CA 95014 baum(a)apple.com * **************************************************

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SALT LAKE CITY
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

C'punks, Anyone on this channel live in or near Salt Lake City? I'm planning my trip across the continent, and I'm looking for a place to spend the night in the Salt Lake area. Any takers? S a n d y

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Re: Philadelphia Enquirer Story on Clipper
by Jeff Gostin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) writes: >> She said the public was far more >> concerned with crime than*privacy.* > > It gives me the chills everytime I read that quote. I just can't get used to > it. Damn right you can't, because it starts a rather attrocious slippery slope. Sure, right now it's phone calls. Next, corner "papers please" checks. Finally, open random house checks, and thought police. Sorry, but I didn't elect Orwell to be god, er, president. Of course, I didn't elect Clinton either... --Jeff -- ====== ====== +----------------jgostin(a)eternal.pha.pa.us----------------+ == == | The new, improved, environmentally safe, bigger, better,| == == -= | faster, hypo-allergenic, AND politically correct .sig. | ==== ====== | Now with a new fresh lemon scent! | PGP Key Available +---------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Encryption in Fiction (DKM's _The Long Run_)
by mclow＠san_marcos.csusm.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How about a quote from Vernor Vinge's "True Names" (a must read for any cypherpunk, happily now back in print): "Like most folks, honest citizens or warlocks, he had no trust for the government standard encryption routines, but preferred the schemes that had leaked out of academia -- over the NSA's petulant objections -- over the last fifteen years". This from a book that was published in 1981. Marshall Clow Aladdin Systems mclow(a)san_marcos.csusm.edu

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Anonymous message failed (wrong password) (fwd)
by Richard Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded message: | From: daemon(a)anon.penet.fi | Date: Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:15:07 +0300 | Subject: Anonymous message failed (wrong password) | | The message you sent to the anonymous server could not be processed, as your | password (in the X-Anon-Password: header) didn't match the one stored in the | server. Either you have made a mistake, or somebody has used your account and | changed the password. If the latter is the case, please contact | admin(a)anon.penet.fi. Julf - You need to add something to that message. I made no mistake, and no-one has changed my password. I simply mailed to a mailing list that has an anXXXXX(a)penet.fi address subscribed. Your service is too insecure to notice :-), and automatically 'out's anyone who unknowingly posts to such a list. All someone has to do is subscribe via an anon ID, and via a non-anon ID, then compare messages to associate anon IDs with regular addresses. How about adding: "Either you mailed to a list to which an anonymous ID has been subscribed, you have made a mistake, or...." I'd also strongly suggest that you stop automatically allocating anon IDs for folks who don't mail directly to your service. Perhaps you could reduce the load on your machine (and increase user security) by sending directly to the bit-bucket any messages where the Sender: and From: headers don't at least come from the same domain?

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Re: GAK
by Jeff Gostin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

doug(a)OpenMind.com (Doug Cutrell) writes: > OK, one more: CRyptographic Access Police How about just calling it what it is: pure, unadulterated bullshit.

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Re: The Terrorists are coming!
by jdd＠aiki.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message <Pine.3.87.9408012142.A21636-0100000(a)raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> CatAshleigh writes: > > > I don't recall the Jim's article mentioning "muslim" terrorists > > specifically. Or are only "muslims" terrorist in your book? :-) > > The only other people who are called terroist are the IRA, and I don't see > the FBI scrambling to protect Great Britian's consulet in DC when a > car bomb goes off in London Here in the UK we read about lots of terrorist groups, not just the IRA: ETA in Spain, Kurds (blew up someone in London a few months ago), Iranis (killed someone in Paris recently), Chchernians (spelling?? -- assasinated someone in London a couple of months ago), the Mafia, North Koreas (two separate events in the last few years, a hundred or so people killed each time), the Animal Liberation Front (blew up a bomb here in Bristol, injuring a baby), ... there are lots of them. Maybe you should subscribe to a London newspaper. -- Jim Dixon

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Re: GAK
by merriman＠metronet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>>How 'bout GIC (Gov't Interference with Crypto)? >>>or Federal Usage of Keys? >> >>Clearly -- >> >> Federal Usage of Citizens' Keys > >OK, one more: CRyptographic Access Police > >Doug > Perhaps: Cryptographic Resource Available to Police ? Finger merriman(a)metronet.com for PGP2.6ui/RIPEM public keys/fingerprints.

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