December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Oceania?
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Oceania folks may or may not have been serious; I don't know them well enough to judge. If they were serious, they weren't competent - nowhere in their literature did I see anything that implied that the question "Can I look at your financial plans?" would get a useful answer. The primary gamble for Oceania is that you could set up a country without having a piece of dirt to anchor it to and get other governments to treat it as a government, rather than getting the US government to treat it as a drug-running boat on the high seas (i.e. target for Coast Guard piracy), or getting some other government or free-market pirates interested. (Secondary gambles are things like financial stability, hurricanes, etc.) One of their magazines had an article on a floating hotel built by Sven somebody that's recently been anchored off Vietnam. Rather than trying to raise $1B or so to build The Raft and gamble on not losing it all to governments or other pirates, you could make the same gamble by buying the floating hotel for $25-50M, which you might even be able to talk some rich investor into coughing up in return for a slice of the pie. That'd be enough to knwo if it works, get your satellite dish up, and see if you can convince a hundred or so enthusiasts to move there, run a gambling casino, and make back some bucks to pay some dividends for your investors and hire a few mercenaries to protect the place. However, they made some nice T-shirts :-) A more serious effort was done in the early 70s by the Minerva folks, who built up an island out of coral reefs in the South Pacific (the UN tends to require 1 foot above mean high tide to count as enough dirt to be a country.) About six months later the Kingdom of Tonga invaded and stole the place. Bill

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Re: Authentication at toad.com: WTF?
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hmm, yes, using agents for security verification seems reasonable; if you've got a legal relationship or other sufficient trust. It does also require an adequate communication path between you and your agent - on the incoming side so you know that the message the agent verified is the message you're seeing (e.g. the agent's signature on the message, plus potentially some check to make sure all the messages get delivered), and on the outgoing side to make sure your agent gets your messages correctly. Bill

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Re: Interoperability, one-use remailer tickets
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Ingle suggests adding a one-shot reply capability to the remailers, to discourage hit-and-run abusers by allowing replies to them. The reply token would become invalid after either one use or timeout. One problem with this approach is that, if the sender is on the mailing list / newsgroup that the message is sent to, he can use up the one-shot reply himself if he's quick, by being the first one to reply. It's also somewhat difficult to design a system where the one-shot replies would chain. Non-automatic non-mandatory one-shot replies are more useful, since there are times you may want to get replies. Bill

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fixed code
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The procmail stuff I sent yesterday was slightly broken. It seems that keyservers respond well to 'mget 36E61FB1', but not 'get 36E61FB1' To auto retrieve keys, use these two procmail recipies: # auto key retreival :0BW * -----BEGIN PGP KEYID=|/usr3/adam/bin/sender_unknown # I have an elm alias, pgp, points to a keyserver :0ac |elm -s"mget $KEYID" pgp sender_unknown #!/bin/sh # sender_unknown returns a keyid, exits 1 if the key is known OUTPUT=`pgp -f +VERBOSE=0 +batchmode -o /dev/null` echo $OUTPUT | egrep -s 'not found in file' EV=$? if [ $EV -eq 0 ]; then echo $OUTPUT | awk '{print $6}' fi exit $EV

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PGP-ELM????
by shawn leas 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've successfully downloaded and compiled pgp-elm, but notice no differences between it and the original. What's the deal??? How do you use it??? X-man

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Freeport information
by skaplin＠skypoint.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -------- Forwarded message -------- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 12:11:58 -0500 (EST) From: Michelle Montpetite <michelle(a)americast.com> To: skaplin(a)mirage.skypoint.com Subject: Freeport Here is the information you requested on Freeport software. Sincerely, Michelle Montpetite ****************************************************************************** *Michelle Montpetite E-MAIL: Michelle(a)Americast.com * *Account Manager PHONE : (216) 498-5100 * *American Cybercasting FAX : (216) 498-5101 * * http://www.americast.com * ****************************************************************************** FreePort Version 2.3 Product Overview Case Western Reserve University FreePort provides a simple, extensible, menu driven bulletin board system for Unix BSD systems. FreePort is designed to be used by people with little or no knowledge of computers yet still provide all of the benefits of today's powerful, computer based information systems. The more sophisticated computer users may bypass some of the basic functions of FreePort in order to streamline their access. In this way FreePort is adaptable to users of all levels of expertise. Features Accessible from any asynchronous terminal or microcomputer Except as noted here, all functions are available from any asynchronous terminal or any computer with terminal emulation software. If the user's terminal has intelligent cursor-control, FreePort supports full-screen (in addition to line) editing and cursor-based selection of menu items. Support for some devices may require editing of a configuration file. File transfers require the user to have a computer. Menu interface The menu interface presents information and FreePort functions as a hierarchy of menus. Menu selection is the user's basic navigation tool. Commonly accessed menus may be assigned aliases for direct jumping to the desired menu. Some system-wide functions, including context-sensitive on-line help are available from any menu. Your system administrator defines the individual menus and linking among menus to correspond to your view of your information. Selecting a menu item launches the menu or Unix program associated, by that menu, with that item. User Profile Access rights are configurable by user group. Anonymous users have read-only access (e.g. they cannot post to the bulletin boards nor send e-mail); registered users have full normal access; and authorized bulletin-board operators have additional privileges to manage the portions of the information hierarchy delegated to them. Additional privileges may be defined by your system administrator. Each registered user has an electronic mail address and mailbox, a modifiable user profile, and a disk work area. Portions of the profile (e.g. name, e-mail address, and interest keywords) are searchable by other FreePort users. The work area is for temporary storage of files saved from the bulletin board, mail, and file transfer systems. Electronic Mail Users may send (and receive) electronic mail to other FreePort users. If the system is connected to a TCP/IP network, electronic mail extends to any user@host reachable through that network. Mail is received into the user's private mailbox. Users may browse the mailbox at their leisure --searching for or selecting messages to read, search, save, delete, or forward. Messages may be composed using one of the built-in text editors or uploaded from the user's computer. Bulletin Boards A bulletin board is much like a public mailbox. It is often used to implement a discussion group as well as the electronic equivalent of the traditional corkboard. Every user may read and save a copy of, but not modify, existing messages on the bulletin board. Users may post their own messages through an e-mail-like interface. On an open bulletin board, posted messages immediately appear for reading by all. On a moderated board, posted messages are first filtered by a human moderator who may post to the actual bulletin board. For each user, the system remembers which messages on each bulletin board he has read (or marked as read). Multi-user Chat Users may interactively chat with others on chat areas analogous to CB radio channels. The chat system moderates and distributes the contributions of each to the others on the channel. Voting Authorized users may post issues for voting by the user community. An issue posting defines the issue text to be presented to users, and the predefined and/or free formatted answers allowed. Users may go to the voting area, select an issue, and vote through a bulletin board like interface. The system maintains running tallies which may optionally be displayed. File transfer A user may send files to other FreePort users, upload/download files to his computer using the Kermit or {XYZ}Modem serial line protocols, and transfer files to/from systems on a TCP/IP network using FTP. Gateway to other systems on a network If the FreePort system is on a TCP/IP network, "padded cell" versions of Telnet and ftp provide user connections to external administrator-selected service systems (including other FreePorts) on that network. Miscellaneous Other features include a text file viewer, a simple database system, system usage logging, an automated address taker, session time limits, and a function to get a list of on-line users. Interoperable with other systems FreePort is designed for maximum interoperability with other internet information resources. It utilizes popular publicly available layered products to implement the underlying communications services. Thus it is compatible today and will interoperate as these layered products evolve to use new standards. The layered products and standards include: * The Berkeley Unix sendmail, or compatible * C-News bulletin board service and various library routines written at the University of Toronto * Internet Relay Chat server written at University of Oulu (Finland) and client written at Boston University * Kermit serial file transfer service written at Columbia University * Telnet, ftp and various library routines written at the University of California FreePort is configured to run on a single computer system containing the above layered products. Installation by knowledgeable Unix Systems Programmers in a distributed computing services environment of multiple computer systems is possible, though not supported. Extensible The programs provided give you the tools needed to set up and run a simple bulletin board system. Without modifying any source code or recompiling any programs, you can expand the BBS as far as your imagination (and system resources) permit. The BBS software uses Ascii files and any available Unix programs to build a system that you can modify and expand. Menus can be updated and new sections added to the running system without interrupting service. System Prerequisites Hardware Prerequisites User access ports You must provide some way for your users to access the system. FreePort will work with any method (e.g. modems, serial lines, and remote login) which establishes a login session to your FreePort service system. Network connection (optional) If your FreePort system is connected to a TCP/IP network, you may participate with other information services on that network. Examples include: e-mail, file transfer, other FreePort systems, Usenet bulletin boards, remote data feeds, and remote login. Disk space You will need disk for your host Unix operating system and utilities, program maintenance, electronic mail queues, bulletin boards, user mailboxes and work areas, and the information files that you make available to your users. Disk space requirements are dominated by the data that you wish to keep on-line. * Installation and maintenance of FreePort and its prerequisite programs requires about 60MB. * Mail queue and bulletin board space depend on your anticipated e-mail traffic and the amount of information that you wish to retain in bulletinboards. Cleveland Free-Net runs the FreePort software and currently retains about 1000MB of bulletin boards alone. * Mailboxes and user work areas are quota controlled. You might use 100KB per user for an initial estimate. Performance FreePort runs on workstation or larger Unix systems. Performance of your system depends on the type of information services that you provide and on the nature of your clients' use of the system. We have found the following configurations to be satisfactory for the CWRU and Cleveland Free-Net user communities. IBM RT/115 with 8MB memory serving 10 simultaneous users IBM RT/135 with 16MB memory serving 24 simultaneous users Software Prerequisites Operating system FreePort is dependent on Unix BSD 4.3 features. It does not currently run on System 5 R3, AIX, or compatible systems. Operating systems that FreePort is known to run under include SunOS 3.5 or newer, DEC Ultrix 3.0, and IBM/4.3. Prerequisite software FreePort is distributed in source code. You will need typical Unix program development tools including an C compiler, yacc, and linker. The publicly available layered software mentioned above is available from various ftp sites on the internet, or is available from CWRU as a complete collection of the prerequisite source code. Support staff Depending on the size of your planned system, support staffing may vary from one to several full-time staff. Most of the effort in operating FreePort goes to the management of information sources and users. Staff functions include technical support, operations, administration, and user support. Installation and maintenance of the FreePort software requires an experienced Unix Systems Programmer. The technical support person requires 'root' access to install and configure the various prerequisite communications software. The system runs with little or no operator intervention. The major operations duty is filesystem backups. System administration duties include architecting the menu hierarchy, installing new menus, authorizing new Sysops and adding users, coordinating Sysops, and arbitrating usage conflicts. The Cleveland Free-Net, for example, has over 400 volunteer Sysops who each husband a delegated information area in the system. More Information Try it out. If you would like to see what FreePort can do, you may connect to the Cleveland Free-Net any time of the day or night. The Cleveland Free-Net is running FreePort plus some experimental extensions which may appear in a future release. The modem pool phone number is (216)368-3888. If you have internet access, you may telnet to one of the following addresses (the IP addresses may change without notice): node name IP address freenet-in-a.cwru.edu 129.22.8.82 freenet-in-b.cwru.edu 129.22.8.75 freenet-in-c.cwru.edu 129.22.8.76 The system will invite you to become a register user. You may "explore the system" as a visitor, or you may apply to be a registered user so that you can send mail, post messages and participate in the chat areas. Licensing A 5-year renewable FreePort 2.3 license for a nonprofit site is $850 ($2800 for-profit). The software is shipped as a "tar" file on 8mm Exabyte cartridge, or for extra cost, on 1/2" magnetic tape or DC6150 cartridge. The software is AS IS. Additional consulting services are available, as needed, from the American Cybercasting Corporation (separate Fee Required). For the license agreement and other information contact: American Cybercasting Corporation P.O. Box 575 Aurora, Ohio 44202 Phone: (216) 247-0770 FAX: (216)247-0778 Internet: USA(a)AmeriCast.Com Unix is a trademark of AT&T ### ============================================================================== There is only one honest impulse at the bottom of Puritanical religion, and that is the impulse to punish the man with a superior capacity for happiness. --H. L. Mencken-- ============================================================================== skaplin(a)skypoint.com | "...vidi vici veni" - Overheard | outside a Roman brothel. PGP encrypted mail is accepted and | preferred. | Change is the only constant in the | Universe..."Four quarters, please." E-mail key(a)four11.com for PGP Key or | Finger skaplin(a)mirage.skypoint.com | Smile!! 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AABBS Conviction relation to child porn?
by ED KELLY 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is hoopla over the convictions of those who ran the Amateur Action BBS. The actual charges involve stuff that sounded like it was intended to be distributed as child pornography. The indictment described the offensive material being destributed as follows in each count: COUNT 1: CONSPIRACY TO VIOLATE FEDERAL OBSCENITY LAWS BY DISTRIBUTING OBSCENE MATERIALS (see following) -------------------------- COUNT 2: "AA-8589.GIF" described as "SHE SUCKS HER SON'S COCK! FATHER IS FUCKING HIS DAUGHTER !" -------------------------- COUNT 3: "AA-8278.GIF" described as "FULL SCREEN VIEW! A HAIRLESS PUSSY NAILED TO A TABLE!", "AA-7153.GIF" described as "MOTHER IS WATCHING HER DAUGHTER FUCK BIG COCK! NO TITS!", "AA-8682.GIF" described as "HE MAKES HIS DAUGHTER SUCK COCK! SHE IS FISTING HER SISTER!", and "AA-11935.GIF" described as "HE FUCKS HIS DAUGHTERS HAIRLESS CUNT!" SHE FISTS HER MOTHER!" -------------------------- COUNT 4: "AA-15198.GIF" described as "BLONDE LOLITA HAS NO TITS! SUCKS HUGE COCK AND DRINKS SPERM!" ------------------------- COUNT 5: "AA-13216.GIF" described as "PUSSY PENETRATION! HORNY BRUNETTE GETS FUCKED BY A HORSE!" ------------------------- COUNT 6: "AA-13517.GIF" described as "HORNY BLONDE JACKS OFF HORSE! HORSE CUM ON HER HANDS!"', "'AA-13521.GIF" described as "CLOSE-UP! BIG HORSE COCK IN HER CUNT! HORSE CUM ON HER LEG", and "AA-16587.GIF" described as "'SHE SUCKS THICK DOG COCK! DOG SPERM ON HER LIPS AND CHIN." -------------------------- COUNT 7: "AA-17623.GIF" described as "YOUNG ASIAN HAS A THICK CLIT! DRINKS PISS FROM AN UNCUT COCK!" -------------------------- COUNT 8: . . . used an express company and common carrier, United Parcel Service (UPS), for carriage in interstate commerce from California to Tennessee an obscene video cassette tape -------------------------- COUNT 9: . . . used an express company and common carrier, United Parcel Service (UPS), for carriage in interstate commerce from California to Tennessee obscene video cassette tapes -------------------------- COUNT 10: . . . used an express company and common carrier, United Parcel Service (UPS), for carriage in interstate commerce from California to Tennessee obscene video cassette tapes -------------------------- COUNT 11: . . . shipped in interstate commerce by means of the United States Mail, visual depictions, the production of which involved the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct, . . . involving (three (3) magazines, bearing titles of "Little Girls Fuck Too!", "Lolita Colour Special 6" and "Lolita Color Special 18" -------------------------- COUNT 12: FORFEITURE ALLEGATIONS involving any instrumentalities of committing crimes. The Grand Jury voted to charge the defendants with all of the above crimes. The trial jury, did not convict the defendant of the one count charging child pornography -- perhaps because it was never proved that the defendants opened it (see Count 11). Although the convictions of the defendants in the Amateur Action BBS case were not technically for violation of federal child pornography laws, if the defendant's own descriptions of their wares is correct, I think the jury might have convicted them because of the apparant inclusion of children in their materials. People do not need to feel bad about convictions of those who peddle depictions showing children in sex acts. Reasonable people may disagree about important issues. But, I do not feel protected speech or electronic communication was endangered by the defendants' shipment and sale of their described materials. ED KELLY

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Are there *any* internet services runnable from powerpc
by tjb＠acpub.duke.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm still thinking I'd like to provide some internet services from my power mac. I have my own IP address and the folks at network services said they don't mind if I run a WWW server, and they will even change the name assigned to my IP address if I don't like it. So it sounds to me like I can provide internet services. I hesitate to run a web server because I hear there are lots of security bugs and I won't subject my mac to that. I am looking for a unix emulator that is freeware for the macintosh. I was directed to one apparently freeware unix platform for the mac by someone on the cypherpunks list, but it says it does not support ethernet which is how I am interfaced. I have a power mac 7100 with an ethernet port to the internet. Does anyone know if I could, for example, get scripts for Eudora to snarf mail and run a keyserver, or set up an anon remailer, or do anything at all remotely cool and for the betterment of the crypto/privacy/pgp/etc. services available to the internet public? I could leave my mac on 24/7 serving up services. When I'm debugging code it might crash, but I suppose there should be fail-safe systems. It doesn't seem like I can do much unless I buy a unix emulator, and I don't have the money for that. I'm a student. Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Bryce for PGP public key finger tjbryce(a)amherst.edu

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MMB question
by L. Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Schneir mentions MMB in the section following IDEA (in 11.10) of _Applied_ _Cryptography_, but notes that it's brand-spanking new at the time of _AC_'s publication. He mentions that "Eli Biham thinks that a 128-bit block size actually weakens the algorithm." What's the current thought on MMB? Has it undergone serious analysis and if so, what's the conclusion been? Thanks, - -- Todd Masco | "Roam home to a dome, Where Georgian and Gothic once stood cactus(a)hks.net | Now chemical bonds alone guard our blond(e)s, cactus(a)bb.com | And even the plumbing looks good." - B Fuller - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuQWbSoZzwIn1bdtAQH14wGAiDedhz9smWvZ4Taph8ITrMJq+Ey+J/MT 3TXoYa+j3YAbh2OU6l0Lc/M+uQy1vVBP =Ejvv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Patents to be placed in PD
by L. Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This appeared on the IPSEC list (Hooray!). jwlowe@IBM followed up by announce the dedication of IBM's patent #5,148,479 to the public. Is this the apocalypse or something? Never have I seen such signs of rationality in companies of this size. - ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) ------- From: Ashar.Aziz(a)eng.sun.com (Ashar Aziz) Newsgroups: hks.lists.ipsec Subject: SKIP patents will be in public domain Date: 5 Dec 1994 15:44:20 -0500 Lines: 17 Sender: root(a)bb.hks.net Message-ID: <9412051928.AA25371(a)miraj.Eng.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: bb.hks.net I am happy to state that Sun management has asked me to make the following statement regarding the SKIP patents. 1. The SKIP patents (when they issue) will be placed in the public domain. Anyone may use it if they wish, with no rights or dues pertaining to Sun. There will be no need to license SKIP patent rights. 2. Sun Microsystems did this to help the industry make progress in the area of security. We view this as an indication of our willingness to promote open standards. I thank all of you who publicly commented on this issue, because your comments helped bring about this change in Sun's policy. Regards, Ashar. - ------- end ------- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLuQZaioZzwIn1bdtAQH/AAGAtvm78gyEj6C+kWfogHJjuMdr7MGW634Z 9n4cYfkPb6G0bmlzMv7Y0X7MAcLwuJk7 =Ux5s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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