December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

p.s.
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The previous message was sent early by accident but was nearly complete. Don't bother checking your mailer. :-)

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NYT on TeleTheft
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Long article today on widespread international calling-card fraud -- stealing and selling numbers to and by computer hackers around the world -- and Secret Service and other LEAs current traps, investigations, arrests and indictments. Don't call if you want e-mail copy, they're about to bust you. This looks like one of "threats" the Wiretap Bill (and maybe the newly chastened CIA) hopes to squash. John

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Data haven code
by Douglas R. Floyd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking for beta testers for the data haven code. It should be ready by the tenth to the fifteenth of October. Due to a mishap partly caused my me, the machine that had the code got hosed and I have to re-create most of the work again :(. If you are interested in beta-testing this code, please E-mail me (dfloyd(a)runner.jpl.utsa.edu) and please encrypt the response with PGP. (My key is on the keyservers, or fingerable from lonestar.utsa.edu) Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Re: NYT Libertarian News
by samuel.kaplin＠warehouse.mn.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : I wouldn't even refer to him as a libertarian. He's very much :into family values / universal military training / trade protection :for United States industries. He falls very close, ideologically, :alongside the state "militias" out in this part of the country. Those :groups also profess libertarianism while also advocating extremely :draconian Christian social programs. He's also a crook. After his foray into Southeast Asia he went into the treasure hunting business. He defrauded the widow of a man who had been hunting for this one treasure. (Forgive me for the sketchy details, this was on a show on the Discovery channel about 2 years ago. I believe the show was "The Treasure Hunters." Took her for all of her money "continuing the hunt" and never really did anything. On second thought he might just fit in in Washington. He can pal around with Ollie North. They would probably have a blast at one of Packwoods' or Kennedy's parties. ;) - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.1 mQCNAy5pUekAAAEEAKrDj64Zj9AJU+gC7/Ivdk8b1ef6a1T9K5CGFeu1yFDSXLyD DLIdGunZR/4ilosLMxdlZcNqPwZ3HgxL+Gk3y2SwYfqKpeWExWPgb696lgzf2BRC tED15ZAwi3UDIkcouv2PBiDwPNUUmnLb5diDXdA3qtALb+XzlwpnimeWAf3FAAUT tCFTYW11ZWwgS2FwbGluIDwrMSAoNjEyKSA1MzAtNzMxNj6JAJUCBRAuaVLjQqfV nzRSzxkBAcXuA/47yIN+sltMyIRqCgUZz/gubdI6LUcpFsTcXsFWppROpAWFPJv0 J9z/UoP1kjJ+nrAAizuKuhmC5eg5OOxUE+tUgSPl6hAtu2xJYmKtCbQpxF0sG8ni 4e8I8Zsk5vcopO5Vub96CiVgPjI5vITCb32kcLKI1yyFaztbHdtOasUthrQuU2Ft dWVsIEthcGxpbiA8c2FtdWVsLmthcGxpbkB3YXJlaG91c2UubW4ub3JnPg== =J2S+ - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fido: Sam Kaplin 1:282/1018 | "...vidi vici veni" - Overheard Compuserve: 75240,131 | outside a Roman brothel. samuel.kaplin(a)warehouse.mn.org | 75240,131(a)compuserve.com | Change is the only constant in the For confidential communications use PGP | Universe..."Four quarters, please." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAgUBLpOOwQpnimeWAf3FAQFPygQApAf+E+2obEbbNJPQzOTbhzSzB0F6YZKz VzjbgNO3knffXlCS5rILhzSOQU8oxmYK7iiBIeRkhVTvvI1JWm6XtsPVN5fZt1eQ UiOh4H02tS2Hp48PSpi7zZlKK2O2GUgzW8n0UdJyI9UtUtpWA9QorRoH4d5FrJpQ BsKn5AteNkI= =TTmB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: NYT Libertarian News
by merriman＠metronet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >Mike McNally says: >> John Young writes: >> > . . . now comes retired Lieut. Col. James (Bo) Gritz >> >> Mr. Gritz has been usenet flame fodder for quite some time. He's >> either a crypto-fascist (no, not that kind of crypto) or a saviour of >> the American Way, depending on your personal leanings. > >The word "nut" comes to mind... > I hate to correct you, but that's "nut^3" :-) Dave Merriman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Finger merriman(a)metronet.com for PGP/RIPEM public keys and fingerprints. Unencrypted Email may be ignored without notice to sender. PGP preferred. Remember: It is not enough to _obey_ Big Brother; you must also learn to *love* Big Brother.

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Re: Hitler's not dead is he?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by nobody(a)jpunix.com (Anonymous) on Wed, 5 Oct 1:51 AM >P.S. Lewis McCarthy wrote: "Quick, somebody mention >Hitler". Okay. Mr. McDonald is as fascist as Hitler. Er, Hitler was a National Socialist. In those days, as now, everyone used the term indiscriminately, just like "fascist", "free market", "capitalist", "commie", and so on. Everybody gotta try to be more entertainingly original and it ain't easy, at least for me. Play the cryptography game, where no one knows for sure what's real or phony, where anyone can talk the talk like Jim Bidzos, and so on. We're all in the same doodoo together, name-calling by anonymous crypto or not, and so on it goes. John (looking for people wanting to sell ad space on their sigs; I been educated to buy into others stuff rather than think up something original, that's why I post so much from the NYT.)

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private assets in the world
by hughes＠ah.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some interesting figures recently wafted my way about the sizes of private asset holdings in the world. These are Goldman, Sachs estimates. 4 Trillion (10^12) dollars in total worldwide personal assets 2 Trillion of that is secretly held assets 1.5 Trillion of the secretly held assets are in Switzerland Mighty interesting numbers indeed. Eric

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Re: NYT Libertarian News
by System Operator 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

merriman(a)metronet.com (David K. Merriman) writes: > >Mike McNally says: > >> John Young writes: > >> > . . . now comes retired Lieut. Col. James (Bo) Gritz > >> > >> Mr. Gritz has been usenet flame fodder for quite some time. He's > >> either a crypto-fascist (no, not that kind of crypto) or a saviour of > >> the American Way, depending on your personal leanings. > > > >The word "nut" comes to mind... > > > > I hate to correct you, but that's "nut^3" :-) However you may feel personally about Mr. Gritz (and his connection to Ross Perot, etc), I think he serves at least three useful purposes for other members of society who might be labelled "loose cannons", to wit: 1) When the Sierra Club was working for their particular agenda in the early seventies, many in the "mainstream" dismissed them as whackos on the extreme edge. Later, when Earth First came along and redefined what the environmental movement could become, suddenly the Sierra Club was a reasonable, legitimate voice with which those in authority could reason. Mr. Gritz, IMHO, is in part helping to redefine the "envelope" of so-called patriotism. His extreme measures may serve to help legitimize less unusual actions which are now considered "out there." 2) He serves as a lightning rod for government enforcement. It is often in the best interests of those in power not to drawn the line of acceptable/not acceptable behavior (keep 'em guessing). His actions (and those of Randy Weaver, David Koresh, etc) all drawn attention to the willingness of the government to "do something." It then becomes more possible to predict the actions of certain government agencies. 3) It keeps said agencies busy. Contrary to popular opinion, the resources of the government are not infinite (it only seems that way). The government is more like a few dozen lumbering Goliaths, each stumbling after whichever David is most irritating at the moment. Mr. Gritz serves as the decoy to lure certain giants away from other activites. Federal agents and other resources devoted to gathering intelligence on Mr. Gritz are no longer available to gather intelligence on others. [This resource allocation problem, IMHO, is one the main reasons for the FBI's insistence on the Digital Telephony Bill -- it allows a far greater degree of "intelligence" gathered per expenditure of resource.] Nutty or not, I'll be happy to cheer on Mr. Gritz. > Dave Merriman Dan -- system(a)decode.com (System Operator) Cryptography, Security, Privacy BBS +1 410 730 6734 Data/FAX

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ClearSig Bug in PGP?
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

can anyone explain the clearsig bug to me, and is there a fix? thnaks man, i;ve been out for a while/

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Tcl citations from Cyphernomicon
by bart＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Richard Stallman of GNU on Tcl > Date: Wed, 05 Oct 1994 10:46:50 -0400 > From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)imsi.com> > > > Fascinating, but why are you sending this to cypherpunks? > > Harry Bartholomew says: > > > > On gnu.announce of 9/23, he writes "Why you should not use Tcl". > > Instead, those wanting to use the Tk tools are commended to a > > Scheme interpreter with it called STk. Available from: > > ftp.cs.indiana.edu:pub/scheme-repository/imp/STk-2.1.tar.Z > For the grep-impaired, see sections 4.5.4 and particularly 13.4.14 of Tim's opus for Tcl relevance to Cypherpunks.

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