December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

MS Escrow
by rarachel＠prism.poly.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Folks, we should keep one thing in mind. Microsoft would love to be the ONE software monopoly whose applications are on every computer.. If this means kissing the NSA's fat ass, you can bet they will do so. However, they need to achieve goal #1 first, which means that if they piss off their users, they won't be able to do much, so the best thing to do is to tell them outright that we are against any such thing as a software escrow and that any attempt on their part to use anything but strong, uncompromised crypto will result in an instant boycott of >ALL< their products, and that we'd rather switch to Novell's DR DOS or OS/half before use MS Escrow. Now I realize that they are UNLIKELY to be volunteering to insert any sort of a escrow in any of their products, but knowing them, they'd probably rather use cheap encryption than pay licensing fees unless they can get more back. Remember, they run a business, they're not in the business of giving anything away to Uncle Sam or to Joe Bloe User. However we should still make our voice heard incase something will change in the future and the NSA would be twisting their arm. We should demand open crypto hooks to which we could attach PGP or anything we damn like. A simpl e fax sent to them from each of us will cause enough attention to make the point. I'm not advocating spamming MS's fax machines here. There are only 700 or so cpunx, and one fax each should be more than enough feedback for them to take the poinot, no? Anyone have a customer relations fax number? or a PR fax #? Now we should mention that we are aware that Ms Escrow is just speculation, but that we want MS to know that we are adamant enough to not take any such shit now, or ever.

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Keystone Kops suck up Internet traffic
by M.Gream＠uts.EDU.AU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*laugh* The following was forwarded to me from aarnet-contacts(a)aarnet.edu.au, a mailing list for organisations connected to AARNet (Australian Academic and Research Network) -- the local Internet -- which provides our gateway to the world. fyi: The AFP (Australian Federal Police) currently have a machine on the network, and have for some time, it has no DNS records but its registered domain is in the NIC. [..] Recently, Geoff Huston wrote: > It would appear that through a problem in routing configurations (and a > basic issue with routing capability on the site) there is a backdoor > between the State Computing Systems of Tas, SA and NT. This backdoor is > via a network operated by the Australian Federal Police, This backdoor > however is configured with packet filters which although it allows > routing, it traps and kill all consequent transit traffic. So what we > are now talking about is a black hole which uses a sufficiently low > metric that transit traffic will not use AARNet even though AARNet > connectivity is available. [..] Matthew. -- Matthew Gream <M.Gream(a)uts.edu.au> -- Consent Technologies, (02) 821-2043 Disclaimer: I'm only a student at UTS, and don't represent them.

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The Terrorists are coming! The Terrorists are coming!
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Today's broadcast of "The McClaughlin(sp?) Group" had a short segment discussing the likelihood that terrorists will get and detonate a nuclear device. The opinions of the five journalists varied from "not likely" to "almost certain". At the end of the show, when the journalists are asked to make their predictions, one of them said that due to the terrorist threat, the US needs a larger and more powerful intelligence capability that ever before. wonderful Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Re: Philadelphia Enquirer Story on Clipper
by Jeff Gostin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Shostack <adam(a)bwh.harvard.edu> writes: > Not that I'm a Clinton fan, but most of his orwellan proposals > have been around, simmering, for a while. Both Clipper & Post Office > national ID cards first came up under Bush. health ID cards are, of > course, Hillary's. That's very true. The fact that they have been simmering is one thing. Clinton's administration wants to raise the heat and boil the issue. Just like every tax payer bears the burden of debt for every taxpayer before him, so too does every politician bear the burden of the old ideas he proposes as new ones. > The problem is not any one particular idiot in office, but a > strong public desire to give up a little freedom for a little > security. And it's funny: When phrased that way, most people see little SECURITY, and ignore the first half. When phrased as "A little security only costs a little freedom", all of a sudden, people are up in arms. *sigh* --Jeff -- ====== ====== +----------------jgostin(a)eternal.pha.pa.us----------------+ == == | The new, improved, environmentally safe, bigger, better,| == == -= | faster, hypo-allergenic, AND politically correct .sig. | ==== ====== | Now with a new fresh lemon scent! | PGP Key Available +---------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Children and the Net
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jeff Gostin says: > jdd(a)aiki.demon.co.uk (Jim Dixon) writes: > > > The Internet is a wild and exciting place. You want your children to > > get to know it. But you would also like a way to build little fences > > between them and some things that they are just too young to deal with. > > How do you do it? > > In my eyes, it's really quite easy: Don't let your children use > Internet UNTIL AND UNLESS you feel they are emotionally stable and mature > enough to handle any kind of message that comes across the net. There are other simple strategies, like using a service like Prodigy that censors its messages, or starting a service for like minded parents that censors the material children can access. You don't need change the whole world to alter what a small minority read. I'm not a believer in the notion of keeping your children "protected" because the world is a dangerous place and I feel that you produce children unable to cope with the world if they don't know what is in it. At the same time, I feel Mr. Zooks has the right to raise his children as hot house flowers if he likes, and he can accomplish his goals perfectly well without censoring us, which I feel would be unacceptable even if Mr. Zooks could not raise his children unexposed to the world without censorship. Luckily, both sets of goals are achievable. Perry

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Schalfly's son (Was: Re: Lawsuits Against PKP)
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:50 AM 08/02/94 -0400, Rick Busdiecker wrote: >I have no idea whether Roger is her son or how similar their political >ideas are. I forget her son's name, but I know that his views are almost diametric opposite of dear old mom's. He is gay and rather outspoken, and has been *very* critical of mum's family values trip. -j -- "Blah Blah Blah" ___________________________________________________________________ Jamie Lawrence <jamiel(a)sybase.com>

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Re: Anonymous code name allocated. // penet hack
by L. Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rick: > Perhaps someone could remove this address (or replace it with > na111447(a)anon.penet.fi) and/or get the anon.penet.fi administrator to > beat on this person (electronically of course). In addition to writing code, Cypherpunks can telnet to port 25. Toad.com's sendmail doesn't seem to do reverse lookups on the IP address. -- L. Todd Masco | Bibliobytes books on computer, on any UNIX host with e-mail cactus(a)bb.com | "Information wants to be free, but authors want to be paid."

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Re: Children and the Net
by landmann＠facstaff.wisc.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First of all, what does this have to do with crypto.. At 06:29 8/2/94 -0700, Mike Duvos wrote: >The behavior of the Branch Davidians towards their children is well >documented, both by child welfare workers in Texas and by sworn >testimony of former members. Apparently this is your (presently unsubstantiated) opinion. How about some references that don't involve ATF employee testimonys? >The Branch Davidians were proclaimed "cleared" of charges of child >abuse by Texas authorities in the presense of physical evidence which >would have been considered abuse in most other states. In many places, spanking a child (with restraint and compassion, as a parent) is considered child abuse, so I suppose this statement could be considered true. I am not alone, however, in my belief that corporal punishment is sometimes a necessary part of parenting. While I don't share the Davidians religious beliefs, I'd like to see more evidence that the ATF was justified in their assault. I'm not yet convinced. -Tom ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Thomas Landmann :: E-mail: landmann(a)facstaff.wisc.edu :: :: DoIT Network Systems Technology :: Compuserve: 76020,2055 :: :: 1210 W Dayton Street, Rm 4220 :: AX.25: N9UDL @ WD9ESU.#SCWI.WI.NOAM:: :: Office: 608.263.1650 :: Home: 608.277.1115 :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >>> Waiting for "Chicago"? Try Linux *NOW* instead! <<<

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Re: Anonymous code name allocated. // penet hack
by jdd＠aiki.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> You have sent a message using the anonymous contact service. > You have been allocated the code name an118905. ... and so forth I did not send any message using the remailer and I would be grateful if the account were killed. Is everybody on the cypherpunks list getting this sort of harassment or is it just me? -- Jim Dixon

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Majordomo and Julf's remailer
by Philippe Nave 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Assumption: (maybe incorrect, but what the hell..) The trouble with having an anonymous penet subscriber on the list is due to the fact that cypherpunks messages appear to be 'from' the individual that posted the message as opposed to the list itself. Thus, when I post a message and it goes out to the list, it heads out to anxxx(a)penet.fi and generates an anon ID if I didn't have one before. If this is the case, is there any way to change the setup of the cypherpunks list on toad.com such that the list messages appear to be 'from' cypherpunks(a)toad.com instead of from the person who sent the message? If we got another anxxx subscriber, penet.fi would start seeing hundreds of messages from 'cypherpunks(a)toad.com' and probably generate an anonymous ID, but it wouldn't foul up the original poster. I'm not advocating majordomo code changes here; I just wonder if there's an option setting that could be tweaked in the cypherpunks list definition. I have been on mailing lists before where the traffic always appeared to be 'from' the list, and the only thing odd about it was that you had to CC: the author to send a direct reply. If this idea is all wet, so be it... it just occurred to me this morning. -Philippe

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