December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Karl Hess - L.A. area meeting
by j.hastings6＠genie.geis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and let me remind you, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." -- Karl Hess Meeting at Cheviot Hills (in Los Angeles) CALIFORNIA U-S-A- I will leave town right after this meeting -- to visit relatives and possibly attend this year's RSA conference January 9-11. The following text was written by SEK3 (with notes by JKH): --- K A R L H E S S C L U B --- REVOLUTION, REACTION or BETRAYAL? A Special 3-Part Post Election Series Monday, December 19, 1994 (That's tonight, yikes!) PART 2: ANARCHIST ALTERNATIVES DINNER at HASMIK'S Family Restaurant, 9824 National Blvd. In Cheviot Hills Center, National Exit from Santa Monica (10) Freeway. (310) 204-1591. Separate checks -- order from very reasonable menu. Beer and wine available. PROGRAM 8 p.m. Announcements * 8:15 Featured speakers * Questions and Answers (moderated by the speaker) * Special Series Opening and Closing by SEK3 * Official Meeting Close at 10 p.m. After-meeting until... ANARCHIST ALTERNATIVES ...and alternative anarchists. Agorists, Discordians, anarcho- syndicalists and punks -- cypher and rock. Does "dropping out" of the hopeless aboveground political system mean less activism -- or more? Is it time to move from the back-room to the coffeehouse? - From the conference committee room to the Usenet? Does feminism mean sharing the same oppression experienced by most males? Does voting for socialism mean bureaucratic capitalism and does voting for free enterprise mean profit...for bureaucrats? Did you vote for change last month...and get betrayed already? Are you ready to get angry...or get even? Or just get something done! If so, come and hear our panel of real alternatives: from (De)center, IWW, and the new improved and revitalized Movement of the Libertarian Left. Find out what's already going on all around you. At Hasmik's in Cheviot Hills (West L.A.). Make sure you are on our mailing list to get the postcard giving you the details! Call (310) 289-4126 or send your mail drop to KHC c/o AI, 291 S. La Cienega Blvd., #749, Beverly Hills, CA 90211. (Or e-mail to j.hastings6(a)genie.geis.com) - JKH Same time and place, next month: 3. Monday, January 16, 1995 "THE NIGHT OF JANUARY 16TH" What have the Objectivists been up to since the death of Ayn Rand? Successors, institutes, new associations...some of whom are actually eager to dialog with libertarians and others. Have they something new for us to consider? Should we go back to our philosophical roots first before wasting more time on inherently impossible solutions? Is A still A? On this most special night for objectivists, come and find out. Kent - j.hastings6(a)genie.geis.com (story.com will be repaired over the next few weeks, and I'll be outahere). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLvVPyA4ciVn87Ra9AQHRfQP9Hiq8Q/sPlqHHDkdam7dA9xrD3KlyeS2A tnb9KyyKygfpacxFEkZ9trjPY+hB++hVikASJ5VxE0OwVIMYI4uyotYNZfcgXnmr YKsxpALqWVtTRKPnYjKGaTi8UppiJKUm2na0OQ95Xnh5V8gRqn8pbY55ZEzTpkxb oVicdOf3IsM= =cYKl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PGP-MIME spec (No Flames Allowed!)
by JEFF LICQUIA (CEI) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Disclaimer: This document assumes that MIME is an OK thing and a possible tool for bringing crypto to the masses. It does not assume anything about the current state of affairs concerning MIME mailers; rather, it serves as a possible impetus for code. Critical posts of a non-technical nature ("MIME sucks, you moron!") will be ignored. Watching the MIME flame wars, I was intrigued by the references quoted concerning PEM-MIME and so on, leading me to a great deal of research with an eye to writing some PGP-MIME kinds of tools. In doing this, I happened upon a post by Mr. Borenstein in comp.mail.mime stating, in effect, that the previous draft standard of application/pgp was a dead end. I also noticed that Mr. Borenstein called for volunteers to write a draft standard to integrate PGP into the PEM-MIME scheme developed at the last IETF meeting. This seems like a golden opportunity to give mail vendors a "push" to integrate PGP with their mailers, so I thought I'd mention it here in case someone was interested who might have missed the comp.mail.mime post. I've noticed Mr. Borenstein's presence here in cypherpunks; I invite him to clarify or update as needed. I'd also volunteer to work on the draft, except that my qualifications to do so are about as low as you get on a list like this one, and I'm sure that just about anyone else would probably be more qualified. However, if no one else is interested, I'll do what I can! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLvWezjER5KvPRd0NAQF+CwP8DpQlFv/VtZ4N02nUfnklIsoT/63qvnBG E0H2d/juUtK6Op4hcwexGlxF5fm7KDyMFXCYyvogQ2c8UxI1wcR5fGXZVpmNSRwk K8xhIX96jZRrI7ZyG4M5uhCXwgmXN2KM7bldgJscezOdUcINFoa8QGSCBNSZOhdD urFUFVyvwzM= =TAD0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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IPSP
by bshantz＠spry.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For the sake of a friend, I'm trying to explain the basics of IPSP. And I've choked!!! Could someone please explain it. What is it, how does it work. ETC. -- Brad

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Re: Any suggestions for additions to this?
by skaplin＠skypoint.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > [BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE] > To: skaplin(a)skypoint.com > >All binary files are UUENCODED with PGP signatures. > > Hmm, what about using PGP instead of UUENCODE, if they're going > to be signed anyway? > I'm working on the lowest common denominator theory. Maybe they have PGP set up...maybe they don't. If they do then they can verify the signature. If they don't they still will have uudecode on their system and can access the file. Nothing frustrates me more than trying to get a file only to find out unexpectedly I need something else to access it. Sam ============================================================================== Laughter is the shortest distance between two people. - Victor Borge ============================================================================== skaplin(a)skypoint.com | "...vidi vici veni" - Overheard | outside a Roman brothel. PGP encrypted mail is accepted and | preferred. | Change is the only constant in the | Universe..."Four quarters, please." E-mail key(a)four11.com for PGP Key or | Finger skaplin(a)mirage.skypoint.com | Smile!! Big brother is watching. ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: This message digitally signed to verify the identity of the sender iQEVAwUBLvWadMlnXxBRSgfNAQESogf+LeRglKrHlcZFSJh5FFt9L2tB+aG2lZe2 MeIgQUN7rzTlxupVECB2wmV7N8a3ep6rw04VGif32sVBLXaY3H0J6fbNklYultu8 TEuSVfVEwVCOVXvIZzR1Mtze1YzAXxXKhBomWHsBc+wGa4N4cXqYsbbouPZhI2P4 osyxEr8z/bNVT0T2g1EIl/fBN4l1TUqKrEZoxh51bXU2UcKG1oXbqtdStz6+tFii DF3IssZABiG5sNbWu8/QAcyWrzngitRs1R5W6nCeHxUMbK4mqRj1t6sgBvs/gVLy IedQ2AjoPeTkQCQH2/EzRWx+0bdKs0BfsMkZKxGlsxxDSNsFuZNW0Q== =szlp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Pgp in Europe
by Karl Lundkvist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know a way to get Pgp 2.6.2 by ftp, mail or something in Europe? All I can find that I'm allowed to download from the net is 2.3... I suppose this is because of those silly american crypto-laws, but but I've seen europeans using the later versions, so they can't be that hard to get. Karl Lundkvist

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FTP: qwerty site gone, crypto files needed
by ddt＠lsd.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Michael Paul Johnson <mpj(a)netcom.com> and I are wondering what happened to <qwerty(a)netcom.com>. He's apparently dropped his Netcom account and thus the handy Crypto-related files he used to keep there are not available to the world. If anyone has any idea of the whereabouts of Mr. Qwerty and/or his files, please contact me at <ddt(a)lsd.com> and fill me in, so I can arrange to put the files back up in my FTP directory as a public service and so Mike can update his "Where to get PGP" FAQ to reflect the new site. Thanks, dave -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6ui iQCVAgUBLvWIHaHBOF9KrwDlAQHWnQP8CNryjUdBdMhPH8BtHEyH/DKVJYhMM/eT 1l8XfuXWXmcLnp5V669h+jeVM5sRU460Px/2KuCqs5uVdeMhsLnkH0A63213OcxK HSyaHMReHG8XKMaByd+q7mdc4+d6X4637yionJDLCCDduODVKTY/rTxu88l3OtJ/ 5YFjsqK1oa4= =1jkK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FW: The NEXUS-Berkeley Presents: a New Years Party
by SCOTT STADELI 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- From: owner-cypherpunks To: nexus-berkeley Subject: The NEXUS-Berkeley Presents: a New Years Party Date: Sunday, December 18, 1994 5:18 >around the continent. (I would include here the Australian sites but >that would require that the party start approx. 7 AM on the 31st...) You say that like it would be a _bad_ thing.

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(fwd) Re: Content-Type of application/pgp
by jamesd＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Xref: netcom.com comp.mail.mime:5131 Path: netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: nsb(a)nsb.fv.com (Nathaniel Borenstein) Subject: Re: Content-Type of application/pgp Message-ID: <0iv6J0H0Eyt5I2gP0o(a)nsb.fv.com> In-Reply-To: <3blaqd$fgn(a)wegener.ems.psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime Lines: 17 References: <3blaqd$fgn(a)wegener.ems.psu.edu> Date: 12 Dec 94 15:01:06 GMT After several discussions over the last few weeks -- with Phil Zimmerman, Jim Galvin, Ned Freed, and others at Email World and IETF -- I have reached the conclusion that the application/pgp type should be ABANDONED in favor of an approach based on multipart/security. My application/pgp Internet Draft is expiring shortly & will not be renewed. By using multipart/security, we can work towards a greater level of harmony between the PEM and PGP communities. It also now appears that there's a chance that PEM and PGP keys can be made interoperable, which would be a huge win. I don't want anyone to think I'm standing in the way of this convergence, so I wanted to publicly state that I have abandoned my application/pgp Internet Draft. What we need now is for someone to work up a new draft on how to use PGP inside of multipart/security. I'm swamped. Any volunteers? -- Nathaniel -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we James A. Donald are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. jamesd(a)netcom.com

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Re: Name that phone
by cactus＠seabsd.hks.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I like: "Pretty Good Phone". Keep the "PGP" motif. - -- Todd Masco | "'When _I_ use a word,' Humpty-Dumpty said, in a rather cactus(a)hks.net | scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - cactus(a)bb.com | neither more nor less.'" - Lewis Carroll - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBLvXmjyoZzwIn1bdtAQHtMQF/eHqzFBvL1rVgDuuZQ7DbjA3Suwpe8FDF oXhwHxwgP/uiJFr/cNV+ovOrkZ5Zzg+m =9aqH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: List of reliable remailers
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:50 AM 12/19/94, Raph Levien wrote: > eric > A variant of the cpunk style. Uses Anon-Send-To: instead. Question: Are there in fact any remailers out there that _don't_ take Request-Remailing-To:, but only Anon-Send-To:? That is, are there in fact any "eric" remailers, according to Raph's criteria? I've used at least one of the remailers that's labled as "eric" on Raph's list, and used "Request-Remailing-To:" with it, and been succesful. I'm wondering if this is the case for all of them.

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