December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Civil Disobediance
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 16 May 1997, tzeruch(a)ceddec.com wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: >> "All that matters is how we die: shall we offer our bodies >> helplessly, like cattle, to the knife, or, refusing passively to >> await the end shall we turn the strength of our anger to one last >> battle, til, daring and doing, we fall, drenched with their blood, >> amongst the heaped bodies and weapons of our dying enemies?" -- >> Livy Book XXV > > They couldn't move with their wealth out of the way, so the > alternatives were limited. The passage above appears in the discussion of the betrayal to the Carthaginians of the Roman commander Gracchus by his "friend" Flavus Gracchus makes this declaration to his men before they fought their enemies to the death. The protection of personal wealth was only weakly connected with the events described. Dr. Roberts

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Re: Civil Disobediance
by nobody＠hidden.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 15 May 1997, Adam Back wrote: >Dr Roberts writes: >> Perhaps there is a way to turn the training on the trainers? Civil >> disobediance is the best way to do this. Were a relatively small >> number of people, a thousand for instance, to post the "RSA in 3 >> lines" code to the world, it would be highly unlikely that anybody >> at all would be prosecuted, > Many 1000s of people have exported it. This was a step in the right direction. The response of the USG has been to pretend it isn't happening. However, if 1000 people announced publically and openly that on a certain date they were all going to post it to this and similar lists, it would have a strong political impact, particularly if followed regularly by longer works of mathematics. Of course, if the "RSA in 3 lines" posting is considered a done deal, it may be time to move on to longer postings. The fact is the USG has been reluctant to make any overt moves. Instead, they have tried to quietly put in "the crypto fix" without making too many waves. Over and over again we have seen their lack of confidence in their ability to get away with making some math illegal. It may be the case that a number of mass postings of mathematics, which anybody can look at and see to be harmless, is all that it will take to finish off the whole ridiculous scheme. Simple ridicule has its value, but what I intend is the use of organized civil disobediance as a political action, and one which is almost impossible for thugs to respond to, particularly in time of peace. The nice thing about this form of civil disobediance is that it occurs on the Net in the most public way so that it will be very difficult for the newspapers to misrepresent what is going on. > Well, it does seem to me at times that people in the US are being > too timid about the whole situation. I mean if everyone just openly > ignored the stupid laws, you might think they would go away by > default, just to catch up with reality. Ironically, the very people who lay awake at night worrying about whether factoring is hard are the least likely to take risks! > Much hand-wringing is spent putting no-export warnings on code, > obfuscating the download process to discourage non-US people, and > warning others not to export. Nobody wants to be the first one to cross the line and be arrested. Fortunately, posting is easy and anybody can participate. Nobody has to be (in any meaningful way) the first to go. There is simply no way that the government will be able to lock up 1000s of professors, grad students, businessmen, programmers, or politicians for sharing mathematics when in the consensual hallucination we call the news, the country is being overrun by violent criminals. Maybe July 4 would be a good date? Dr. Roberts

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Re: Martin Hannigan Pervert Pedophile
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

kibo <kibo(a)thecia.net> writes: ... > > > That's not as misguided as it seems. Common carriers are regulated > > > heavily, and many ISPs don't generally seek that regulation. > > > > > That is a telephone type of "common carrier." but anybody with a > "common carrier status" is not going to get regulated. All it means > is a hands-off approach to users postings. > > Even for a death threat, I will not terminate any user, because > the law is not mine to enforce. And this "copyright" shit is the > same argument. SPA needs to be attacked and undermined. The ISP cannot determine that a particular patterns of 1's and 0's constitutes a "death threat" and/or a "copyright violation". --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor, In a message dated 97-05-17 01:04:54 EDT, you write: << Thank you VERY MUCH for releasing the source code. This shows that you are serious about your program and truly appreciate how important is the process of review as far as your credibility is concerned. I have downloaded your code and looked at it. Looks rather interesting (especially the part below). What I did not understand, however, is what is SetVal and how it works. Also, I was not clear how you set variables AE1, AE2, ..., AE10 and so on. As far as I understand, you use these variables to select the particular encryption method. Do you normally select only one method on some random basis or you use several passes? Also, some may be interested to look at this particular encryption method (I added some indentation and comments for readability). I believe that it is not particularly strong. >> Hi. Thanks for taking a look at the source code. Actually, SetVal is just a name used for many parameters of functions and procedures within VSACM. The documentation of VSACM V2.0 describes what SetVal represents in each function or procedure. Attached to this message is the help file of VSACM. As for the AE1, AE2, etc. variables, they're set with the VSACMSetEnableTC1001, VSACMSetEnableTC1002, etc. procedures. If you take a look at VSACMProcessOperation function in LibUnit.pas and the Internal function in IntUnit.pas, you'll notice how relatively uncomplex algorithm extensions are combined to form a powerful algorithm. The procedure TC1001 (in StdUnit.pas) you mentioned is basically a pseudo-random byte XORer. TC1001 is NEVER used as the sole encryptor of a file. You'll also notice that, at a minimum, single passes of TC1001, TC2005, TC1005, TC3001, TC3004, and TC3005 are used to encrypt/decrypt a file. No, an algorithm extension is not chosen randomly. Some of the procedures are "scramblers". Others are "incrementors". Others are "avalanchers". Again, it is best to analyze VSACM as a whole in a systematical (chronological) manner instead of analyzing each procedure of function in each source code file one by one. By the way, what do you think of the key hashing procedure (VSACMSetKey) and the memory deallocation and destruction procedure (VSACMInitialize) and the masking tables in IntUnit.pas? Did you find any "backdoors" or ways to hack a decryption date or time lock applied to a file without applying the correct key? (There aren't any). How about any flaws? Also, for others who may be reading this, if you still think VSA2048 is still a "flawed" or "crappy" or "sucky" or "snake-oiled" encryption algorithm, why don't you PROVE it by cracking the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/breakit.dat (if you are in the U.S.)?!?! (All words, no action!!!) Well? The file was encrypted using a 120-bit VSA2048 key. The key isn't even 128 bits in length! I don't know about you, but I would think VSA2048 is pretty good if not even one cypherpunk out there can decrypt the message. As for my previous line about the decryption contest being limited to the cypherpunks (@toad.com), I have changed my mind. The contest is open to any person (in the United States). I will post contest details to cypherpunks(a)toad.com again. I appreciate the comments. Thanks. Regards, Jeremy Yu-Ramos DataET Research

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by DataETRsch＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 97-05-17 13:37:36 EDT, you write: << why don't you PROVE it by cracking the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/breakit.dat >> It's "crackit.dat". Sorry.

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dhp.com is blocked by CyberSitter
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A note for those of you who use dhp.com. dhp.com is on the blocked list for CyberSitter. Don't bother complaining to Brian Milburn (pres. of solid oak, makers of CyberSitter) about it. He is notorious for throwing temper tantrums at anyone questioning his judgement. --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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PGP 5.0 beta is out at PGP.com
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The pgp 5.0 beta is out. It is for Win95/NT 4.0 only. PGPKeys.exe pukes its guts out when run. (At least on my machine.) It looks like they have hired a new graphics artist. The splash page looks interesting. Nice if the rest would run... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEUAwUBM337SeQCP3v30CeZAQHrIwf3bwkNKXwDPb5R2qLMneIIWBTfYvwAGCQ6 8xqd0BHSsD+7ZzF4u9iVZWV9sHN/62LxAo886FfDP7PtKG+JZrZCa+KOUj2Zw3qk 1wltug8/rylAoLHulXwFVfwWb001jMIsS5RYNqDLqyccVF2TWUbVKQEgH7EI9VJ3 EU8gZzHF61ok+bqacmV/r7ANoIdfFRvLZHm0iGo6Xm4xHz8lw2JzDWWvnhWnEquD mf3XUaNRVYnI4/+kgs8fx5golMY3pPQrl6PR0XdvvLJITUhiqM3SVTDs9IL4hWAx V7WWGPHaJZw6nVAl5LNbLK9puGFw0FMap1a6Ld+HnmRlxlgpr8B/ =gdHU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- | "Bill Clinton - Bringing back the sixties one Nixon at a time." | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/
by JKYuRamos＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 97-05-16 20:58:27 EDT, you write: << no insults or bashing, i promise the use of the built-in Random function looks scary. my five minute overview of the code may have missed some cleverness (or i may have missed your own implementation of Random). i am not a cryptographer, and can't comment much more on the actual encryption algorithms you're using from an engineering standpoint: i assume that you stripped the comments out before posting the source from a legal standpoint: you should probably yank the source code off of your site. i am not a lawyer, but making this stuff downloadable from outside the US is risky >> Hi. Sorry, actually, I regret that the code was developed with no inline comments. Yes, you probably did skim over some essential code. Also, again, the pseudo-random number generator is NOT the only method used to encrypt a file. In fact, the pseudo-random number generator code could have been left out to some extent. I have also specified that that no one who is not in the U.S. may access the source code, but if no one cracks the file located at http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/crackit.dat by June 20th, 1997, I'll have to assume that VSA2048 is an extremely secure encryption algorithm, and I will consider having the source code removed from the site. Regards, Jeremy Yu-Ramos DataET Research Host: DataET Research (http://www.dataet.com) Contest expiration date: June 20th, 1997 Encrypted file location: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/crackit.dat Applied encryption algorithm: VSA2048 Encryption algorithm source code: http://www.dataet.com/public/source/vsacmv20/ Applied key size: 120 bits (15 bytes) Encrypted (secured) file size: 836 bytes Decrypted (unsecured) file size: 836 bytes Hints: No message hints available Key and message post location: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Contact: info(a)dataet.com Limitations: U.S. residents only Prize: FREE basic Web site package & apology posted to cypherpunks(a)toad.com & discontinuation of VSA2048-based products CRACKIT.DAT file statistics: Type: Binary (Intel) Characters: 836 Mode: 179 Mean: 127 Median (middle character, no order): 3

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DCSB: Fred Hapgood on the Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Fred Hapgood "The Internet as an Auction-Pricing Incubator" Tuesday, June 3, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Price, Including Luncheon: $30.00 The low transaction costs and interactivity of the internet are proving a highly favorable incubator for auction pricing. In April Yahoo reported 60+ sites supporting online auctions with more appearing every day. The largest of these hosted more than 50,000 individual auctions (not individual items) simultaneously and was growing at 25% a month. Online auction sites appear to be the only indigenous internet service that is a) generating profits of any scale and b) respectable. Fred will describe how these auctions work, some of their varieties, what they are selling, analyze the online auction site as a business model, review recent developments, and weigh the odds that online auctions will be associated with changes of interest in the structure of the economy and the culture. Fred Hapgood, <http://www.pobox.com/~hapgood>, is a free-lance writer based in Boston. While he often writes about aspects of electronic commerce, that being where the market is, he promises creditworthy clients an attentive and positive hearing to any proposition legal in at least one jurisdiction. Last year he spoke before the DCSB on franchising and the internet. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, June 3, 1997, from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, on One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $30.00. This price includes lunch, room rental, various A/V hardware, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men (and no sneakers or jeans), and "appropriate business attire" (whatever that means), for women. Fair warning: since we purchase these luncheons in advance, we will be unable to refund the price of your lunch if the Club finds you in violation of the dress code. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, May 31, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", in the amount of $30.00. If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Upcoming speakers for DCSB are: July Win Treese TLS, Digital Commerce, and Export Issues August Duncan Frissell MarketEarth September Christof Paar Elliptic Curve Cryptography October Peter Cassidy Military Fiat and Digital Commerce November Carl Ellison Identity and Certification for Electronic Commerce We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com> . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 5.0 beta Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM34DRMUCGwxmWcHhAQEgRwf+NMnjays51ipVI2DUkN7641PAGn21PWLI CdvLO8TbbXJu6KNcjw/E3fsz+j+ykiYZJl4liiNI7XUC3aB58QbKIHMouM09jIjA VrPaqGP5EL9DjGh+ZHl7qm/SuuP8a6tAfEWkxCHb6Z+X0ezWipziD+3S4PEe5wcd LLW7SRMvWxzVjDKfeokCZL3e43o4xfzNDPBStxVGvONC73A+FMDLWRFxcCJ1o4iX n9fevJuymUf1itZps2ZsK6eU1dXbcXgaX8326OkjBHvGg3IIF0lARKRpPlMVCWxG BCwpKsP/vkzw97+QuhOJJIg5fq0uXqXAADDOwS6SSwt3oCp6cuBcog== =DaZq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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index.html
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN logo WORLD navbar Infoseek/Big Yellow Pathfinder/Warner Bros World banner Alan Greenspan. Is he the man with the golden touch? rule usa.nightmare --From Danish newspaper Ekstrabladet DENMARK: U.S. OFFICIALS OVER-REACTED OVER BABY May 17, 1997 Web posted at: 1:33 p.m. EDT (1733 GMT) restaurant COPENHAGEN, Denmark (Reuter) -- Denmark's foreign minister said Saturday that a Danish mother had been foolish to leave her baby daughter outside a New York restaurant, but U.S. authorities who jailed her for two days had over-reacted. Danish newspapers ran front-page pictures of actress Annette Sorensen and 14-month-old daughter Liv after a New York City judge Friday dropped criminal charges against the mother. "USA Nightmare over - Free," Ekstrabladet's headline read."We Won," crowed rival tabloid B.T. reunion Sorensen was jailed for two days last weekend and her baby put into foster care for four days. She had left Liv parked in a stroller outside a restaurant while she and the child's American father were having a drink and watching her through the window. "It was rash of the mother to leave her child in an American city. It is not clever but is perhaps excusable because she was not really aware of the danger," Foreign Minister Niels Helveg Petersen told B.T. "But the American authorities over-reacted because this was not a case of a mother who could be accused of neglecting her child, it's completely out of proportion," he added. Ekstrabladet quoted Sorensen, 30, as saying that she bore no animosity over the affair. denmark "I'm not quite myself again yet, but I am not bitter toward the United States (although) I honestly can't say if I will ever come back again," she told the paper, holding Liv in her arms, at a champagne celebration in New York's Danish Seamen's Church. Under terms of the deal reached before Judge Michael Gross by her attorney, the Manhattan District Attorney and the Danish Consulate, the criminal charges of endangering the welfare of a child were dismissed and the case will be closed for good in six months. "It is our belief that this was a clash of cultures and a lack of understanding," her attorney Todd Barnet said. The mother's lawyers said that she did not think twice about leaving the child outside the restaurant because it was common practice in Copenhagen. Sorensen still must appear in Family Court Wednesday but B.T. quoted a lawyer for the Danish Consulate in New York, Peter Hessellund-Jensen, as saying that he foresaw no problems. "I am convinced that the hearing is only a formality," he said. Sorensen's attorney says she has a plane ticket to leave the United States May 27. She had been in the country less than 48 hours when her daughter was taken from her. Copyright 1997 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. rule Related stories: * Charges against Danish mother effectively dropped - May 16, 1997 * Women charged with leaving baby outside while dining in restaurant - May 13, 1997 * New York returns baby to Danish mother - May 13, 1997 rule Message Boards Sound off on our message boards Tell us what you think! You said it... [INLINE] Alan Greenspan. Is he the man with the golden touch? rule To the top © 1997 Cable News Network, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Terms under which this service is provided to you.

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