December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

AP --> AR
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May verily saith [paraphrase]: > I would cry few tears if D.C. got nuked This will be an historical event of importance comparable to the American Revolution and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Even now Clinton and his organization are pointing weapons of mass terror and murder at hundreds of millions of people around the world, and other leaders of these gangs with weapons too murderous to be called gangs, these terrorists far too terrifying to the called terrorists, are pointing their weapons at us. Far from enemies, the supergang chieftans contribute to each others' campaigns, turning democracy into a sick joke. The fact of friendship between super-terrorist leaders does not stop them from threatening us with terror and death in the name of "defense" against "enemy nations", and by the most bizarre hypocrisy ever dreamed up by the mind of man, trampling our rights in the name of controlling "terrorism". The supreme justice will be done when these weapons of mass terror are turned back on their wielders and those proximate who have failed to use their proximity to bring these ultimate criminals to justice. Those innocents who die will be mourned as saviours for the many tens of millions who would have been murdered by governments in the twenty first century, as they have been in the twentieth. I live about one hundred-fifty miles away from that fetid place, sometimes downwind. The risk to my family from the fallout is fairly small compared to the risks we face every day from these super-terrorists pointing weapons at us, threatening us constantly, sometimes murdering us outright when they can cook up a good enough story to justify it on the evening news. The money I have to spend to protect my family from the fallout, and from any temporary economic setback to our region, would be earned back in less than a year of not having my livelihood sucked away by these mass murdering parasites, and the very lives of my beloved family, my lovely wife, my son and my two daughters, threatened by their thug friends and campaign contributors overseas. D.C. may lead the nation in personal crimes, but these are as nothing next to the crimes it has committed against the peoples of the rest of the nation and the world. These self-legalized criminals have in this administration alone murdered more children than Charles Manson killed adults. AP may be more targeted, but it just doesn't do the crimes justice. For that will come AR -- appropriate response. "John the Baptist"

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Re: Disinformation in L.A.
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue May 13 12:16:27 1997 > Better yet, use their own tactics against them. Order tons of bomb > making materials in the name of their secretaries and have them sent to > their work and their homes. > heh.. > Send them AOL disks that contain hidden files with the bomb stuff. > > Then call the postal inspectors anonymously and point them at the > "evidence." > > :) You know.. this has potential... :) - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3iT3aAC4xvMjGa1AQEeKgf/UmjBnVVImpkY+f+LpUk1LFIBGotI31gH 71hNoyxxND776GW681ghS5MU5duzvboDxT9cWixDGkNWtjDFvnEooR5Pio+rrUQa +joApKSzs/zVsKi91KGb+tRIN6Q6+hVdneoTN7HAhEGCeQXQ/Aqa4mYT3nid1iLJ n1h3dvC2co7rU00CxFxDhzhYxKKd4lVyEC0IYv4xSZ20Hhe8PNIUc57mccpv/TeC W0zVhMjfPMUoB/OLLmiPtiCc5clxT1EJMwD/vVRH9mjAPjOIAyjui9NFdO2DqCEO +FYWeBC0zsUh18dZIO6sQf5LVJOOuDPB23/nSdjvPXYownpuqjqxTg== =0ZkT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Infowar, war, and cpunks
by Michael Wilson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If any cpunk is interested in infowar, but with a strong crypto perspective, help yourself to: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4843/ MW

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test cp@cyberpass.net 10:10a pdt ignore
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Disinformation in L.A.
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Potassium nitrate is a natural byproduct of the decay of organic material. > It is highly soluable in warm water, but at low temperatures (<10C) will > quickly precipitate out and be displaced in solution by other salts, such > as sodium chloride. Extract by evaporation of water from chilled solution. > Mix seven parts potassium nitrate with three parts carbon (coal). Compact > and ignite to produce explosion. 94% AN : 6% Fuel Oil (hence the abbr. ANFO) - more brisant than TNT, good stability and sensitivity, cheap and easy to manufacture almost anywhere worldwide in large quantities. Thanks for playing - go get yourself another encyclopedia. BTW, have a friend post your obit. when you've blown your head off, fuck-up.

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PGP Prestidigitizes RSA...
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To paraphrase the cypherpunks maxim: "Cypherpunk fellow-travellers hack corporations"... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.aol.com id LAA18484 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:03:31 -0500 Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> From: "Kevin J. Connolly" <kconnolly(a)EVW.COM> Subject: Re: Encryption--RSA v. PGP To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There are several additional bits and pieces to report. First, RSA is not seeking to enjoin the distribution of PGP products. The lawsuit is seeking solely to revise the royalties to be paid. Second, it can be said that the suit represents something of a stretch. RSA (the original patent holder) assigned the patent to Public Key Partners, whose membership consists of RSA Data Security, Inc. and Cylink Corporation. Public Key Partners had granted a license to ViaCrypt, Inc., which was acquired by Lemcom, Inc. Then Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. acquired Lemcom and performed a reverse subsidiary merger, with Lemcom as the surviving entity. Lemcom then changed its corporate style to (surprise!) Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. Cylink--the other half of Public Key Partners-- was not consulted before RSA purported to terminate the license and sue PGP. Third, It appears that one major reason for RSA's purported termination of the license agreement was to get around the very broad arbitration clause in the license agreement. Finally, it appears that RSA commenced the suit in reaction to PGP's development of algorithm-independent encryption. This innovation would make it possible for PGP to embrace not only the RSA Algorithm but also Diffy-Helman, El Gamal (a variant of Diffy-Helman), elliptical curve cryptography or even n-dimensional lattice vector schemes. In the meantime, however. PGP continues and will continue to incorporate the RSA algorithm, if for no other reason than downward compatibility and the need to continue to support the significant number of existing RSA-based keypairs. It should be noted that any bias apparent in this posting stems from the failure of RSA's counsel to return my calls, even though I identified myself and the fact that I am preparing an article for print in a significant news weekly (which I will not identify until and unless the article actually runs). However, I did identify the publication to RSA's counsel, and he chose to let me get my information from PGP, Cylink, and other industry sources. Kevin J. Connolly The opinions expressed in this communication are those of the author, not of Eaton & Van Winkle. This communication is not legal advice. If it were legal advice, it would be accompanied by an invoice. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM3iC4jQOqu5WyMfpAQECGQP+IkL0fslR6M/GSHKNdrnCVqQNoYllXurt qcPM0okSKCGEnySvBdeHJE2nf/7nn/CpYtFiPe36hkbfplpjOE4cRgupbr57AL9V kxQluZQdJwJJKNwXrdhiCHHBleM7l7RUSSwIRovsMxy6+4Zd3MNweGKX7wfmFnX8 yRFOV1z7CGs= =W5P9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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test 10:10 am PDT ignore cp@toad
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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test cp@algebra.com 10:10a pdt ignore
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: whine politics again
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Earlier, paul said: >Also, on a slightly more practical point, as I have said, if one was to >bomb any major commercial or government building the chances of killing a >truly innocent person are fairly small anyway. What the ultimate result here should be we all demand our legislators pass a law prohibiting the establishment of daycare centers, schools, hospitals or nursing homes within 1000 ft of government centers, army bases, or any federal offices. They could call it the "No Human Shielding law." What legislator would dare complain that the federal government not use his or her constituents children to shield ATF, FBI or other TLA agents? Hey, it's "For the children", right?

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Re: `careerpunks'
by Hal Finney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back, <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk>, writes: > In trying to figure out which lists were working, I noticed that there > are now many more people on coderpunks and cryptography than there are > on cypherpunks... take a look at these figures: > > 713 cryptography(a)c2.net > 713 coderpunks(a)toad.com > 245 cypherpunks(a)algebra.com + cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net - duplicates Coderpunks has not been very active, I think (although I don't always notice which messages come from which lists). Perry Metzger's moderated cryptography(a)c2.net has had some good discussions lately, including contributions from such people as Carl Ellison and Matt Blaze. There was an interesting proposal from James Donald for a possible approach to what they are calling CACK, "Corporate Access to Corporate Keys", without facilitating GAK, "Government Access to Keys". The cypherpunks list continues to have the edge in political commentary and bomb-making instructions. :-) Hal

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