December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Ruritania Discovers Motor Transport
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ruritania Discovers Motor Transport ----------------------------------- Once upon a time in the land of Ruritania (known for its transparent trees, but that's not today's story) the population were discovering motor transport. All kinds of good things became possible then, including faster and safer deliveries, new kinds of business carried out over distances (and with that opportunies for foreign trade) there was a lot of interest in the subject from far-sighted people. But the government of Ruritania concentrated on the problems they imagined plaguing the acceptance of this technology. (The government was a democratic one, that is to say a loosely-related band of popularity-seekers.) There were cries of how the added speed and load capacity of these newfangled cars would assist crime. A few wise men pointed out that though cars probably would be used in some crimes, the advantages were still clear. For one thing criminals might still be in the minority, while the people standing to gain would be practically everybody. Also the cars would prevent much crime. For example, people would be harder to attack than when walking home from the the supermarket carrying 6 heavy bags of food. They'd load up with other people nearby and be home sooner and more safely. The government agreed there were advantages, and certainly didn't wish to appear backward or oppressive, by prohibiting mere members of the public from driving. So a plan was made to permit driving, but with restrictions to suit the government's wishes. There was to be a police officer in every petrol station to record who went where, when and what they were doing. Only that didn't suit the public spending figures (nor probably the chief constables) so instead distribution of petrol was banned. Except, of course, for the petrol vendors who enrolled in the new branch of the Police force - the Traffic Tracking Police (or TTP). Members of this force had a bunch of qualifications; mainly to do with ensuring that they could be counted on to report on any traffic they'd observed - within an hour - to the great guardians of the common good. Surely nobody could fail to trust the government or any related body ? Weren't these the very people who had defended our health at the risk of their own reputations by stating that beef was certainly safe before any of the research was in ? [1] Or guided us to a right decision in a promised referendum (on our association with nearby countries) by not holding it. This petrol distribution network announced by the government (though not strictly a government body) was trumpeted as progress and encouragement, bringing the benefits of the technology to the public, business, and anywhere else benefits belong in a democracy. Sceptics viewed it as a costly restriction. People disinclined to join the TTP, or indeed who failed the in the recruitment process, were prohibited from supplying petrol (even free of charge). Criminals, so it was said, would be tracked as they bought petrol because they would not be able to run a black market in the petrol they needed for their crimes. This looked decidedly doubtful. The use of the petrol was also ignored - fixed security lighting by petrol lamps (hiding nothing, but rather the opposite) was also restricted by the new progressive legislation. Nor was that all. Not content with banning the provision of petrol, the ban also covered offering it. The wording of the act was so vague, causing concerned citizens to wonder whether answering the telephone would be viewed as supplying petrol (after all, it could save somebody a journey). And what about the scope for crime by people with access (legitimate or not) to the records of the TTP ? The legislation had a few things to say about that, but wouldn't it be safer not to have the records ? (Like the Ruritanian government had done with records of polluted sites - look no pollution!) So it was that Ruritania remained in the 1940's well into the 21st century. [1] See 'Health & Safety at Work' April 1997 for a grim view of this. ISSN: 0141 8246 HSW(a)tolley.co.uk -- ########################################################## # Antonomasia # # ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # ##########################################################

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New Mailing List Archive
by Alec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:52:19 -0500 >Resent-From: pgp-users-request(a)rivertown.net >Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 16:52:54 -0500 (EST) >From: "Fred B. Ringel" <fredr(a)joshua.rivertown.net> >Reply-To: fredr(a)joshua.rivertown.net >To: pgp-users list <pgp-users(a)rivertown.net> >Resent-Message-ID: <"eNeAUC.A.DkG.SmsRz"@rivertown> >X-Mailing-List: <pgp-users(a)rivertown.net> archive/latest/2270 >X-Loop: pgp-users(a)rivertown.net >Resent-Sender: pgp-users-request(a)rivertown.net >Subject: [PGP-USERS] New Mailing List Archive > >Hi all- > > Just wanted you all to know that, with the co-operation of Barry >Cox, I will be keeping an archive of the new Privacy Shell Mailing List in >conjunction with the PGP-Users Web site. It will be updated on a weekly >basis. > > The URL is http://pgp.rivertown.net/PI-List/ > > I hope this will be a good source of info for those with Private >Idaho related question/problems. > > Fred >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >Fred B. Ringel -- Rivertown.Net Internet Access >Systems Administrator -- http://www.rivertown.net >and General Fixer Upper -- Voice/Fax/Support: +1.914.478.2885 > Although in theory, there's no difference between > theory and practice, in practice, there is. >

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by Resources International, Inc. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Wassenaar
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Arrgh. Have been comparing what I received via my FOIA request with what other people have extracted and it looks like ACDA's response was incomplete. (In particular, it appears from <http://www.barrier-free.co.jp/a2z/c/CRYPTON/box1997/19970310-1-wassenaar-cat .2.html>, also at <http://www.jya.com/wassnr52.htm> that Appendix 5 is *not* empty.) So it's back to the FOIA salt mines for me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQEVAgUBM0dem/37pMWUJFlhAQEziAf/Ucj4as/l1wtemzNATKBpEn1x7llAtv/k xsDdDoHYJh0iMevtonKSsEolBK7IGFTNpNQjpBwsy9SFXCumOxeoR/P8qUMrrB5e Wsit3OirO9yJszHrFCR6xVAU7sBOSkuT+iQpmw0/KlvlyVu3xtMaev8uBF96bFxu rM/CK/+tZDU0fmRyUNVtlF9UhqWhQajDumbbvC0qG67ZS5028GtvqfJkC8J1r2J/ +1Dv2DZYTJl9eC44wQV2+cL/j7+NhtnTdf504s7tc1wQqO8mMqE5ndE0SWCXh/Q9 LAqDaxzf5uwkHPPdKswLZiWXjQozZD6EOAIagFWsmMr9YBXj9fWLHA== =FBvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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Secure checksums
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy May the self-admitted child molester possesses a rudimentary dick less than one inch long, half the size of his mother's clitoris, that barely makes a fistful. Thereby hangs the root of this Jew-hating sissy's sick fixation on little boys and Usenet forgeries. o-:^>___? Timmy May `~~c--^c'

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Privacy-Shell Archive at Rivertown
by Alec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: supportptech(a)mail.ptech.simplenet.com >Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 00:15:07 -0500 >To: privacy-shell(a)s1.net >From: PI Tech Support <support(a)ptech.simplenet.com> >Subject: Privacy-Shell Archive at Rivertown >Sender: owner-privacy-shell(a)s1.net >Reply-To: privacy-shell(a)s1.net > >Hello Everyone: > > Thanks to the efforts of Fred Ringel, the Privacy-Shell >Mailing List will be archived on a weekly basis at the following URL: > > http://pgp.rivertown.net/PI-List/ > > Hopefully, the archive can provide PI users with an >additional source of help for PI-related questions/problems. > > Additionally, some subscribers to Privacy-Shell may not know >about the wealth of PGP-related resources available at Fred's PGP-Users >Web site. If you have not visited there, please visit the following URL: > > http://pgp.rivertown.net/ > >Best Wishes, > >Barry Cox >To remove yourself from this mailing list, send a message to >privacy-shell-request(a)s1.net. In the body of the message put the >word unsubscribe. To view the list archive, point your web browser to >http://pgp.rivertown.net/PI-List/ >

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Re: [PGP-USERS] New International Version
by Alec 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 21:19:13 -0500 >Resent-From: pgp-users-request(a)rivertown.net >From: patm(a)connix.com (Pat McCotter) >To: pgp-users(a)rivertown.net >Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 21:19:03 -0500 >Reply-To: patm(a)connix.com (Pat McCotter) >Resent-Message-ID: <"1mPwfB.A.BzH.ggwRz"@rivertown> >X-Mailing-List: <pgp-users(a)rivertown.net> archive/latest/2272 >X-Loop: pgp-users(a)rivertown.net >Resent-Sender: pgp-users-request(a)rivertown.net >Subject: Re: [PGP-USERS] New International Version > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Sat, 5 Apr 1997 18:38:08 -0500 (EST), GWNapier(a)aol.com wrote: > >:I have heard that there is new international verison of PGP out. Anyone know >:about it? > >PGP 2.6.3in >If you can read German, it's here: > http://www.in-ca.individual.net/ > ftp://ftp.iks-jena.de/pub/mitarb/lutz/crypt/software/pgp/ > >Lutz Donnerhacke <lutz(a)iks-jena.de> has said if I know a good >English/German speaking person, he will send them the web texts for >translation and then post them. I don't. Does anybody here? > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3a >Charset: cp850 > >iQEVAwUBM0cHmAhAaMnUN7LZAQHJnAf+N4NlzCEVd5A1/TUhwUGNJEbNdqEI7mXG >OHAX5H22iwjkVKMMx0uPTQ+VTmdiODW1DtDy3EgWUjzcxTX0xFOuEy3v948JG3qe >pHC00EVpHzUZOzgbFc0B1ejePhhxhAAVprRCXeZT2G6b2u9bS34SH1kTy8+QCgxe >crfh2z51eKKTH9ghAX3MvKqRP1S12i5jdMMcPsPhtPw/fEQH25+f64mJ6GxXWK9X >R2FYwoNfXgA/pYnIj0z00PairsL5DGgkw4N/12yF0Kh7mnVw3+KO8cCe6+BWb0FL >UPZ4akdw1v7vrIQC92GPADtUUW68hgpj3WW9p+bhLFHqpZKC2TnURQ== >=AlTX >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >-- >Pat McCotter >Finger for public key patm(a)connix.com or get it from the servers >Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID >pub 2047/D437B2D9 1996/05/10 Pat McCotter <patm(a)connix.com> >Key fingerprint = D0 E7 C6 5A 9E EF 0D CF C7 10 88 2A 73 41 11 24

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Re: Feds reading this list, Jim Bell, and threats
by David Gilchrist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:33 AM 4/6/97 -0600, you wrote: >The Limey Apologist said: >> > At 1:51 PM -0600 4/4/97, null(a)myemail.net wrote: >> them as a sovereign nation that was the spark to the flame. Try >> reading "Lies my teacher told me" sometime. >> Given that the American revolution institutionalised slavery and > > I think slavery was an institution long before the White Man >came to the New World. If I remember correctly, slavery wasn't outlaws >in england until long after the United States was a soverign contry. > >> lead to the theft of Indian land, and the French revolution the murder of > > If the indians didn't believe that _they_ owned the land, and infact >didn't have the concept of land ownership, how could it have been "stolen"? The concept is that of preservation and use by all. The government denied the Indian the use of the land through eminent domain, encroachment or force which is the government's way of taking, not stealing, what it wants: a distinction without a difference. I agree with your other points. > >> People are not fit judges of their own cause. The civil war was started >> by the South who believed that the North might infringe their "right" >> to own others as property. > > Actually, the "symptom" was slavery, the disease was federal >intrusion into the area of states rights. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0ghjm2v/EZLD6bhAQF+fQP+JEH3lo7ash6V24f+6ncAcTouSlRhqtmM QKPfLUBD6+kR4AjPGl8RKZ5x9U1BR6tiZhNrjNb+7x9mNkGqBhhujU4picef4S3T VidsE27jVsLdonti5yQqhDM9XE9U2GtC+FIWrSRwhCioJthIJVNYzogcLY5FnI6f SoF1JvoDi2o= =exxJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- David

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WebWorld 28
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Feds reading this list, Jim Bell, and threats
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

snow <snow(a)smoke.suba.com> writes: > The Limey Apologist said: > > > At 1:51 PM -0600 4/4/97, null(a)myemail.net wrote: > > them as a sovereign nation that was the spark to the flame. Try > > reading "Lies my teacher told me" sometime. > > Given that the American revolution institutionalised slavery and > > I think slavery was an institution long before the White Man > came to the New World. If I remember correctly, slavery wasn't outlaws > in england until long after the United States was a soverign contry. A couple of weeks ago I and the family were in Washington DC and we dropped by the Museum of Natural History in the Mall. It's almost as cool at the Museum of Natural History in NYC. One of the things I noticed was a special "braining club" used by the Pacific North West indians. As some readers may know, PNW indians did not believe in accumulating wealth. Rather, they tried to build "reputation capital" (a la Timmy May) by conspiciously destroying wealth in ceremonies known as "potlatch". One indian would, say, publicly burn 10 sacks of grain. Another would try to outdo him by publicly burning 20 sacks of grain. (Somehow, this sounds like Cypherpunks.) Now, one of the ways indians showed off their wealth was by killing their slaves during the potlatches using this braining club. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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