December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Pro-Crypto Arguments
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Such was the thrust of my question posed to the Senate hearings via netcast: "Is secret speed protected speech" For if not, then it is a simple matter by extension to require that all communications be in the lingua franca of the listener, obviously preposterous. The respondent seemed to think that 'secret speech' is protected, but obviously there are counterarguments. At 09:59 PM 5/5/97 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >The current line of argument in supporting crypto seems to fall into the >"software as speech" (ala First Amendment) or Crypto as munition (and >invoking the Second Amendment). > >I think of Crypto as "Freedom of Language". > >Imagine the uproar that would be caused if Jesse Helms (or one of his ilk) >tried to pass a law that all conversations over the net or phone lines had to >be in English. (Or at least in a language understood by the cops.) The >amount of uproar would be incredible. The courts have already ruled against >this form of "language escrow". Such rulings should apply to encrypted >communications as well. > >Software is just the mechanism for the language of cryptography, it is not >the language itself. Just as in spoken languages, special knowledge is >needed to understand the "ideas" being communicated. The algorithm is (in >part) that language. (But in this case, you are able to speak to only those >you intend, not to the world at large.) > >Of course, the question is whether this line of reasoning will work under the >current regime. Maybe, maybe not. It seems a better argument than the ones >I have seen so far... Depends on how far the deck has been stacked against >us. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 4.5 > >iQEVAwUBM266uOQCP3v30CeZAQHU4wf9GePLzvloFC/zpM+uAmdzq+wCzASUt/vH >0GP4v9DwLTYtWDp4O/o/ietk1tej4G/d1h2owpdHsGT1qkUXWIG8XUjWsTPblPsa >0uS097K+fB7fP7+LUyrGWkaCwNMfqQ3gErhVfoRsQ6lJRhWE+6JiIcdgxC1OY7lg >kknM3//51Avbk+7CcVH+flyvL7uKWFHJdKpthiSSfKSg9nKJrLUQJxOQaK7xkpXH >4oFEKF1EApa2gFIPyTEM7Nd1Dp2PzcdNZrVHn2BmMP7eXeN4Jfkwoc31r95DPwpI >L2uWEeRpNEs61qNtM8/gkKMXk5fP/vLl8ujDHaYXDOP6dA3CnSbGOA== >=aN2p >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--- >| "Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!" | >|"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | >| mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | >|`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| >| http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com| > > >

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17 Dec '03

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Site Builder Network: SBN Wire
by Site Builder Network 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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CALEA Comments
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The FBI has published today in the Federal Register industry comments and its responses to Section 104(d) of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, 2nd Notice of January 14, 1997, and requests additional comments: http://jya.com/fbi050697.htm (33K)

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Hacking the Crypto Ban
by Alan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An article in "Intelectual Property" magazine on hacking around the crypto export ban at http://www.ipmag.com/crypto.html . Get it while it is still there. Goes into great length about the EAR and those Hamletionians pouring poison into it. (Sorry... Started channeling John Young there for a moment...)

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Re: (fwd) Re: XS4ALL censored pages (fwd)
by root 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:03:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Felipe Rodriquez <felipe(a)xs4all.nl> To: Alex de Joode <usura(a)replay.com> Cc: root(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: XS4ALL censored pages (fwd) Hi, Plz forward this to the cypherpunk list: > As we guessed XS4ALL don`t even have the guts to send us a copy of the > pages they censored. Check this out... > > > >>Postmaster, > >> > >>Please send me a copy of your current pricing for web space. > >>Also, please send me a copy of the marajuana pages you recently removed > >>from your web server. > > > >Hearby you recieve information about all services from xs4all. > > > >We don't know anything about marajuana pages so we can't send you a copy of > >that. The simple reason that a copy cannot be sent is that we have no such copy. The Dutch police have asked us to remove these pages, because they where being used to sell and distribute marihuana, hashish and XTC. These drugs had been distributed to countries like France, England and Japan. Through Interpol these countries had requested the dutch police to take action against these pages. If Xs4all would not have removed the pages we'd have been target of a criminal investigation. Kind regards, Felipe Rodriquez

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May 10th San Francisco area Cypherpunks Meeting Announcement
by Hugh Daniel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What: San Francisco Bay Area Cypherpunks Monthly Phyical Meeting When: Saturday May 10th, 12 noon Where: PGP World Headquarters, San Mateo, California Bayview Federal Building, second floor conference room 2121 S. El Camino Real, San Mateo, California South of the intersection of Highway 92 and El Camino Real http://www.pgp.com/pgpcorp/contactpgp.cgi#head See attached detailed directions below. Possible Agenda: Political situation update for GDR, Brittan, USA, somone? Crypto at the 38th IETF Meeting report, Hugh Daniel Hidden USSA Citizen Unit ID & Reporting law PASSED US Congress! P/MIME & PGP beta testing update, Dave del Torto Hot topics of the day, what ever you need to talk about. Future Meetings Dave's Directions to PGP's HQ in San Mateo (fossil fuel version). .................................. MACRO ................................... + From the North Bay: - Hwy 101 South (use right lanes after passing SFO) - EXIT Fwy 92 West (move to center lane immediately after ramp)... or - 280 South (take Hwy 92 East toward the Bay)... + From the South Bay: - 101 North - EXIT Fwy 92 West (toward Half Moon Bay)... or - 280 North - EXIT Hwy 92 East (toward the Bay)... + From the East Bay: - San Mateo Bridge (Hwy 92 West) - GO past Hwy 101... + From Hale-Bopp: - LEFT turn at Beta Pictoris. - LOCATE greenish-blue planet third out from star w/9-10 planets in orbit. (High radiation readings make it obvious.) - PROCEED to Northern hemisphere. - FIND the largest body of water. (Travel in the direction of the planet's rotation until you reach the longest coastline running between the polar ice-caps.) - FOLLOW the biggest N-S seismic fault. - RIGHT turn at the large reddish suspension bridge. - SOUTH along coast to large reservoir at intersection of Hwy 280 and 92. - WEST on Hwy 92... .................................. MICRO ................................... + Once you're on Hwy 92 (from either 280 or 101) - EXIT at SOUTH El Camino Real (From 101 it's about a mile, the 2nd of two El Camino exits) (From 280 it's about 7 miles, after you've come down a steep grade, levelled out and passed under an overpass) - Curve around and down under freeway: you're now travelling south on El Camino Real. - Get in the LEFT lane *immediately*. (Directly in front of you, you can see the Bayview highrise a couple of blocks away.) - LEFT on 20th. (The very first traffic light after exit ramp. Taco Bell on left). - RIGHT turn at next stop sign (Palm St.). - PROCEED 1.5 blocks. (Parking Garage entrance at rear of Bayview building is on your right.) - PARK on the 2nd level. .................................. NANO ................................... + Once you've parked your flying saucer in the Garage: - STAIRS (or Elevator) to the main level, step out and... - WALK WEST across the courtyard to the main (tallest) building. - PASS through the doorway in the stand-alone exterior "glass wall" and approach the "information" window (also the guard station) on the north side of the building. - GET the guard's attention (preferably *not* by waving a firearm). Use the passwords ("PGP" or "cypherpunks") and you'll be admitted. If the guard's on a break, call my cellphone 415.730.3583. - ELEVATOR to 2nd Floor. (The meeting room is on left side, slightly down the hall) PGP's offices are on the 9th Floor (soon the 10th too). ............................................................................ For CalTrain-ers, get off at the San Mateo station near the Bay Meadows horse racing track and head for the tallest building around with the huge "Bayview" sign on top. For the bus, take any line running on El Camino Real to the intersection of 20th in San Mateo and dismount. You're there.

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CBD - DEA - TELEPHONE MONITORING DEVICE
by Michael F. Reusch 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.ld.com/cbd/archive/1997/04(April)/30-Apr-1997/58sol008.htm Commerce Business Daily, April 30, 1997 Drug Enforcement Administration, Office of Acquisition Management, 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, Virginia 22202 58 -- SOURCES SOUGHT -- TELEPHONE MONITORING DEVICE SOL 97-SP0453 POC Yolanda Jordan, Purchasing Agent, (202) 307-7805 The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is seeking to identify qualified sources to provide a telephone data recording system which will provide management with the following: 1) provides for centralized management; 2) has synchronized agent directories; 3) multiple leveled and layered, user profile security; 4) a strategic framework to support future functionality 5) easy-to-use for users; 6) automate and simplify the entire monitoring process of voice and data; 7) provide an objective approach to personnel evaluation and analysis; 8) provide insight into the effectiveness of the software applications and hardware systems being used by employees; 9) provide a training tool for employees, classroom environments and peer group sessions; 10) provide a means for fraud detection; 11) work in oracle local area network. this system shall perform on-line evaluation, product data, analysis/report of telephone conversations and customer account screens across a wide area network. This information will also need to provide storage for data for three to six months. This announcement is not a Request for Proposal or Request for Quotation. there is no solicitation/RFQ available. We request that interested sources submit a capability statement that clearly identifies their capabilities by May 27, 1997 to U.S. Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, 700 Army Navy Drive, Arlington, VA 22202, Attn: Yolanda Jordan. Any questions should be directed to Ms. Yolanda Jordan at 202-307-7805. DEA does not intend to award a contact on the basis of this request for information or otherwise pay for the information solicited.

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Re: Bypassing the Digicash Patents
by Hal Finney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It is hard to understand why a system where it is impossible to track payments (Chaumian anonymity) is cheaper than one where it is possible to do so, but we choose not to. If avoiding tracking payments is cheaper than tracking them, why wouldn't participants just not bother to track them even when they theoretically could? Granted, there are situations where taking away someone's options can make him better off. The classic example would be the Prisoner's Dilemma, which I will assume people here are familiar with. Given the choice to cooperate or defect, standard analysis predicts that both players will defect. Remove that option, and they will be forced to cooperate, leading to a better ("lower cost") outcome for both. The structure of the game forced them to take advantage of an option which has the net result of costing them more. The question is whether this kind of reasoning would apply financial transactions. Is it really true that taking away the option of tracking transactions is going to save money overall? Sure, not keeping records is a priori going to be cheaper than keeping them, but the question is how much the loss of those records is going to hurt you. Presumably records are kept to protect against various risks. Without that protection, you need other means to control the risk. But if those means exist and they are cheaper than record-keeping, then again even without anonymity it should be cheaper to use those methods in place of the records. I think we would need to see a more detailed explanation of exactly why it is that people can't save money today by avoiding keeping records, when they could do so if it were impossible to keep records. (One possible explanation is that it would be a regulatory effect. People are forced by the government to keep records, to their detriment, that they would prefer not to keep. With anonymous bearer certificates it would not be possible to keep the records so people might hope to escape the regulations. However the problem with this reasoning is that the same forces which require the record-keeping would be likely to ban the use of instruments which prevent keeping records.) Hal

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Jim Bell in the Oregonian
by Alan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Bell has an editorial (with his picture) in the Oregonian. (Morning edition, May 6th, 1997 page B-9.) It takes up about a quarter of the page. It is an interesting read. It does not address the problems with AP, but it does deal with the raid and other issues involved. Jim might consider posting a copy of the original article here. Given the Oregano's love of cut-and-paste journalism, it would be interesting how the original and print versions differ.

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