December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: AOL crashes and burns
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:16 PM 8/8/96, Warrior wrote: >Great news, eh? No big deal, as I see it. The only reason the AOL outage made the headlines is because of market share. My own local ISP goes out at times, sometimes for more than a day. And judging by the comments of others here (e.g, "my connection has been flaky," "My ISP was down for the past few days," "Could someone mail me the last 3 days worth of traffic?"), I suspect this is common. Market share is what generates headlines. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Stealth cookies
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com" "Bill Stewart" 7-AUG-1996 06:58:56.42 >However, there's a way to cheat the cookie spec; I don't know >if this was intentional, but it was realized quickly by the market :-) >The issue is that your browser sends along an HTTP_REFERRER variable, >which points to the last page you visited before the current page. >It's useful for sites to find out where their pages are being referenced, >and they may (legitimately) want to only give out information if you're >coming from one of their previous pages. Does www.anonymizer.com filter out cookies and their requests? I'd also be curious if an alternate means of specifying the url (without having to manually type it in) is possible such that people would have problems doing a search for all pages connecting to a page. I.e., currently, I can search for pages connecting to a particular page through the anonymizer via doing an AltaVista search for link:/page/in/which/i'm/interested.html. If the person had to realize that, say, they had to do a search for page__in__which__i'm__interested.html, that could make unfriendly tracing of backlinks - sensitive backlinks if you're using the anonymizer - more difficult. -Allen P.S. The problem with blank pages from the anonymizer seems to be fixed, or at least I haven't run into it recently - thanks.

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visual programming
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"cpunks write code". the whole concept of writing code may fundamentally shift in the future to something that is far more visually oriented. I tend to think so and think that this idea will be particularly fruitfully explored relative to virtual reality. I believe that in the future, code will be written neither with "code" nor with "writing", so to speak. this is a blurb out of Xeroc Parc, the same organization that brought you the revolutionary wysiwyg GUI, the mouse, the file/folder analogy, etc. imagine that as a programmer, you could see an animated presentation of your code operation at all times. it would be an incredible development and debugging tool. it is quite a few years away, but I think it is inevitable. what is interesting is that visual programming is not necessarily a replacement for computer languages. it could be seen as just another layer of abstraction on top of source code, i.e. a means of generating source code, which could be in any language du-jour such as Java. in fact I think this is the way visual languages will first make their way into commercial environments-- by meshing with all the existing language baggage. ------- Forwarded Message Newsgroups: ba.seminars,comp.human-factors,comp.cog-eng,comp.groupware Subject: BayCHI (Aug 13) - Programming as a Video Game, plus Exploring the World of a Product Date: 6 Aug 1996 01:23:33 GMT Organization: Usability Adventures BayCHI, the San Francisco Bay Area ACM SIGCHI (Special Interest Group on Computer-Human Interaction), announces its August meeting: Tuesday, August 13, 1996 7:30 - 9:30 pm Programming as a Video Game or ToonTalk -- A Video Game for Creating Programs Ken Kahn, Animated Programs + Exploring the World of a Product: the Light Switch Exploration Project Sam Hecht, IDEO Product Development Xerox PARC Auditorium 3333 Coyote Hill Road Palo Alto, CA 94304 <BayCHI meeting attendance is free & open to the public.> <BayCHI programs are not videotaped, and taping by attendees is not permitted.> Abstract of "Programming as a Video Game or ToonTalk -- A Video Game for Creating Programs": Seymour Papert once described the design of the Logo programming language as taking the best ideas in computer science about programming language design and "child engineering" them. Twenty-five years after Logo's birth, there has been tremendous progress in programming language research and in computer-human interfaces. Programming languages exist now that are very expressive and mathematically very elegant and yet are difficult to learn and master. We believe the time is now ripe to attempt to repeat the success of the designers of Logo by child engineering one of these modern languages. When Logo was first built, a critical aspect was taking the computational constructs of the Lisp programming language and designing a child friendly syntax for them. Lisp's "CAR" was replaced by "FIRST", "DEFUN" by "TO", parentheses were eliminated, and so on. Today there are totally visual languages in which programs exist as pictures and not as text. We believe this is a step in the right direction, but even better than visual programs are animated programs. Animation is much better suited for dealing with the dynamics of computer programs than static icons or diagrams. While there has been substantial progress in graphical user interfaces in the last twenty-five years, we chose to look not primarily at the desktop metaphor for ideas but instead at video games. Video games are typically more direct, more concrete, and easier to learn than other software. And more fun too. We have constructed a general-purpose concurrent programming system, ToonTalk (TM), in which the source code is animated and the programming environment is a video game. Every abstract computational aspect is mapped into a concrete metaphor. For example, a computation is a city, an active object or agent is a house, birds carry messages between houses, a method or clause is a robot trained by the user and so on. The programmer controls a "programmer persona" in this video world to construct, run, debug and modify programs. We believe that ToonTalk is especially well suited for giving children the opportunity to build real programs in a manner that is easy to learn and fun to do. A live demo of ToonTalk will be given. (See http://www.toontalk.com.) ----- o ----- Abstract of "Exploring the World of a Product: the Light Switch Exploration Project": Initiated by IDEO industrial designers in San Francisco, the Light Switch exploration is the first in a series of projects which explore the world of a product. The benefits, other than those which are delivered within each design, is to expand each designer's mind, but formulated within a group. The group deliberately chose the humblest of product interfaces for exploration, asking that the test was in the using. It was felt strongly that this type of project would be able to indirectly inspire some of the more complex products that IDEO usually works with, and which the layman eventually has to operate. The approach taken was rooted heavily in both a large vocabulary of materials and the appraisal of a light switch within its environment. The group started the project by examining the history and context of a light switch and discovered that it was praticularly easy to move away from preconceptions which seem to have plagued many earlier attempts by designers. This was further achieved by the group developing contextual platforms for particular scenarios based on the relationships between object and light; control and light; the manipulation of light; and the interaction with a switch. The root in material also inspired totally new ways of both manufacturing and operating a light switch. It would be wrong to suggest that these designs are anything more than concepts, but because they were created within an environment that is populated by Human Factors, Engineering, and Interaction Design, they hold many of the concerns which are evoked by these professions. The group extended the concept of "using" by creating working prototypes. These were exhibited as part of the "Mutant Materials in Design" exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in New York. Here, the public were able to interact with each switch in its proper context; that being to turn a light bulb on and off. New surprises were observed - such as people stroking a switch that only required the slightest of contact. What was happening, of course, was that relationships were being created between object and user. The exploration was awarded the 1995 annual design award for concepts and the CHI'96 video award for design, and was part of the International Design Yearbook for 1996. Biographies: ToonTalk was designed and built by KEN KAHN <kahn(a)csli.stanford.edu> who, after earning a doctorate in computer science from MIT, spent more than 15 years as a researcher in programming languages, computer animation, and programming systems for children. He has been a faculty member at MIT, University of Stockholm, and Uppsala University. For over eight years he was a researcher at Xerox PARC. During the 1970s he made several animated films which were shown in film festivals, theaters, and cable TV. In 1992, Ken founded Animated Programs whose mission is to make computer programming child's play. His patent application covering the underlying technology of ToonTalk has recently been approved by the US Patent Office. David, Ken's 11 year-old son, will be running the demos during the talk. ----- o ----- SAM HECHT joined IDEO in 1994 after working in the areas of interior design, architecture, industrial design, and graphic design. He has worked in the studios of David Chipperfield in London, Studia design group in Tel-Aviv, IDEO product development in San Francisco, and now currently as a senior industrial designer at IDEO in Tokyo. In San Francisco, he created designs for large corporations in the fields of furniture for Steelcase America, computer monitors for NEC Japan, and recently telephones for AT&T of America. After graduating from the Royal College of Art in London, he started to investigate the border between object and environment, which he exercised in a number of interiors. This interest was furthered with the designs of the offices of IDEO in both San Francisco and Tokyo, which challenge our thinking of the office environment - layered with the philosophy of multi-disciplinary team working that IDEO employs. He is also responsible for curating the IDEO design explorations that occur each year. In Tokyo, he is currently focusing on the design of objects of a smaller scale. His work has won several awards; has been exhibited in Europe, America, and Asia; and has been published in leading journals throughout the world. ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ NOTES OF SPONSORSHIP & THANKS BayCHI thanks Jock MacKinlay and Stu Card of Xerox PARC for sponsoring our use of the Xerox PARC auditorium for BayCHI monthly meetings. ************************************************************************ BayCHI's September meeting: September 10 location: Xerox PARC Auditorium, Palo Alto ************************************************************************ About BayCHI BayCHI, the San Francisco Bay Area chapter of ACM's Special Interest Group on Computer-Human Interaction, brings together systems designers, human factors engineers, computer scientists, psychologists, social scientists, users, software engineers, product managers, ... from throughout the Bay Area to hear and to exchange ideas about computer-human interaction and about the design and evaluation of user interfaces. 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Edited Edupage, 1-Aug-1996
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"educom(a)educom.unc.edu" 1-AUG-1996 17:11:49.07 To: IN%"edupage(a)elanor.oit.unc.edu" "EDUCOM Edupage Mailing List" >***************************************************************** >Edupage, 1 August 1996. Edupage, a summary of news about information >technology, is provided three times a week as a service by Educom, >a Washington, D.C.-based consortium of leading colleges and universities >seeking to transform education through the use of information technology. >***************************************************************** [...] >CELLULAR PHONE COMPANIES FIGHT CLONING >To fight the illegal practice called "cloning," cellular telephone carriers >will be adopting new "smart phone" technology intended to foil high-tech >criminals by matching calls with encoded passwords. In cloning, pirates >use portable scanners and computers to intercept the cellular phone user's >phone and serial numbers as they are being broadcast to a transmitting >tower or "cell site." The new digital phones will contain a non-clonable >''smart cards'' that encrypt the identifying information to prevent >scanners from eavesdropping or cloning the customer's telephone number. >(San Jose Mercury News 1 Aug 96) It sounds like the "smart cards" will have some chip oddities to try to prevent reading them - something in TCMay's department. I do wonder whether they're going to have one key for all of them, or differing keys for each user. If the former, then cracking one (which I get the impression is quite possible) equals cracking all, of course. >G7 LEADERS & THE INTERNET >Experts on electronic communications said ideas presented by G7 leaders for >fighting terrorism by restricting access to the Internet are "naive and >probably unworkable" because there are too many ways to circumvent >censorship on the Net to believe regulation could prevent terrorists from >using the technology for communications. (Toronto Globe & Mail 1 Aug 96 >A4) Yes... although it could be rather inconvenient. >CANADIAN SERVICE PROVIDERS TACKLE OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL >Canadian access providers are developing guidelines for dealing with >potentially objectionable material and have set up a code of conduct >committee, with goals that include establishing guidelines members can use >to determine if information stored on their servers is illegal. (Toronto >Globe & Mail 1 Aug 96 B1) [...] >CERTIFIED WEB SITES >The National Computer Security Association in Carlisle, PA., will certify >that a Web site meets minimum security specifications, including the >presence of firewalls, use of passwords, and encryption of sensitive data >transmission. Certifications costs $8500 a year and requires that the site >submit to remote tests, an NCSA site visit, and random compliance audits. >(Computerworld 29 Jul 96 p2) One hopes that the level of encryption will be required to be above single DES, at least... >Edupage is written by John Gehl <gehl(a)educom.edu> & Suzanne Douglas ><douglas(a)educom.edu>. Voice: 404-371-1853, Fax: 404-371-8057. >Technical support is provided by Information Technology Services at the >University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. >*************************************************************** >Edupage ... is what you've just finished reading. To subscribe to Edupage: >send mail to: listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with the message: subscribe edupage >Gene Fullmer (if your name is Gene Fullmer; otherwise, substitute your >own name). ... To cancel, send a message to: listproc(a)educom.unc.edu with >the message: unsubscribe edupage. (If you have subscription problems, >send mail to manager(a)educom.unc.edu.)

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Re: PGP public key servers are NOT useful!
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> What I want to prevent is some person I dislike uploading his > signature on my key Yes, that's unpreventable. It still does not change the fact that it is up to the person using your public key to determine if you are indeed that actual owner of that key. > How would you like it if I added a new ID to your key containing sort > of insult, certified that ID, and uploaded the new signature to the > key servers. RTFM. Look, go into PGP and try to change your key ID. You will note that PGP asks you to provide the passphrase to your secret key before allowing an id change. Someone could not get your public key off of a keyserver and change the id of the key. The need both your secret key and your passphrase to do that. Now someone could create a key-pair themselves and falsely assign your e-mail address and some miscellaneous crap as the ID. They could then upload the"rogue" public key portion of this keypair to the servers. However, the falsity of this "rogue" public key can be easily determined by you and anyone who is trying to communicate securely with you. All of this is explained with great clarity in the PGP documentation. Think about this... Suppose I knew who you were and knew your e-mail address. What's to stop me from creating a "rogue" key-pair with your address as the e-mail id and uploading it to the keyservers? Just because you don't utilize the keyservers, doesn't mean your public key can't be placed there. "Controlling" the distribution of your public key is giving you a false sense of security where none is really needed. Ponder: why is a public key called a "public" key? "Controlling" the distribution of you public key is a pointless exercise. Controlling authentication is what you and those who communicate securely with you whould be concerned about. me -------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <omega(a)bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 Send a message with the text "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key. --------------------------------------------------------------

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.mil links
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somebody e-mailed me a nice collection of military/intelligence sites. I'll forward it to the list in case anybody is interested. (Note: I haven't checked the links myself yet) Harka == Forwarded Message Follows ========================================= MILITARY SCIENCES AND DEFENSE SITES: Advanced Information Technology Current research aimed at developing and implementing cutting edge hardware and software solutions for Navy problems. Also pointers to US Navy information, Washington DC Area Information and more. http://www.ait.nrl.navy.mil:80/home.html Advanced Research Projects Agency Provides selected information about the activities and programs of the Advanced Research Projects Agency(ARPA). http://ftp.arpa.mil/ Air Intelligence Agency This World Wide Web home page is your gateway to information about the U.S. Air Force's Air Intelligence Agency, a Field Operating Agency headquartered at Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas. http://tecnet2.jcte.jcs.mil:8000/cybrspke/aialink.html Armament Research Development and Engineering Center (ARDEC), Picatinny Arsenal, NJ Access to staff directories, ARDEC information sources and remote non-technical information. http://www.pica.army.mil/ Army Research Laboratory Allow scientist from government, academia, and industry to discover information about current Army research. http://info.arl.army.mil/ Bosnia Link BosniaLINK, is the official Department of Defense information system about U.S. military activities in Operation JOINT ENDEAVOR, the NATO peace keeping mission in Bosnia. http://www.dtic.dla.mil/bosnia/ Brooks Air Force Base, Human Systems Center Brooks AFB organizations, information by topic and local interest, publications, weather and keyword searches are available. http://www.brooks.af.mil/ Central Intelligence Agency The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) supports the President, the National Security Council, and all who make and execute US national security policy. http://www.odci.gov/cia/ Defense Information Systems Agency Center for Standards Access to the DISA CFS Information Technology Standards Libary, Bulletin Board System and the Department of Defense Electronic Commerce/Electronic Data Interchange Standards Repository. http://www.itsi.disa.mil/ Defense Information Systems Agency Server The Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) mission is to Plan, Engineer, Develop, Test, Manage Programs, Acquire, Implement, Operate and Maintain Information Systems for C4I and Mission Support Under all conditions of Peace and War. http://www.disa.mil/ Defense Intelligence Agency The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) is a Combat Support Agency and the senior military intelligence component of the U.S. Intelligence Community. http://www.dia.mil/ Defense Logistics Service Center Provides logistics information products and services to all military and civilian government services and agencies. Server provides information on full range of DLSC products and services including LOGRUN, MEDALS, CAGE, FEDLOG, GIRDER, AMLS, Customer Service and FOI. http://www.dlsc.dla.mil/ Defense Research and Engineering Network Information about the Defense Research and Engineering Network(DREN), the networking component of the DoD High Performance Computing Modernization Program. http://www.arl.mil/HPCMP/DREN/index.html Defense Technical Information Center Provides access to and transfer of scientific and technical information for DoD personnel, DoD contractors and other US government agencies. http://www.dtic.mil/ DefenseLINK Access to DoD news releases, contract awards, briefing transcripts and related information. Postings are normally made within 20 minutes of official release. A search feature provides easy access to past releases. http://www.dtic.mil/defenselink/ Hydromechanics Directorate, Naval Surface Warfare Center Navy lab responsible for the research, development, testing, and evaluation of ships, submarines and other marine technologies. Contains information on facilities, projects and technical reports. http://www50.dt.navy.mil/ Intelligence Community Homepage The Intelligence Community is a group of 13 government agencies and organizations that carry out the intelligence activities of the United States government. http://www.odci.gov/ic/ National Defense University Information on professional military education. NDU is home to several colleges and institutions dedicated to military education, research, executive skills training, public policy information resource management, and more. Also contains a library. http://www.ndu.edu/ National Security Agency The National Security Agency (NSA) is responsible for the centralized coordination, direction, and performance of highly specialized technical functions in support of U.S. Government activities to protect U.S. information systems and produce foreign intelligence information. http://www.nsa.gov:8080/ Naval Command, Control and Ocean Surveillance Center (NCCOSC) Information about the three subordinate commands of NCCOSC as well as pointers to other naval resources. http://www.nosc.mil/ Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division Contains information pertaining to CALS in the Navy. All certified Navy DTDs and FOSIs are available on the Repository for downloading. http://navysgml.dt.navy.mil/ NavyOnLine Gateway to the Department of Navy online resources. Access to the Navy News Service, Naval Postgraduate School, Navy Public Affairs Library, Naval Research Laboratory, Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command and more. http://www.navy.mil/ Office of the Director of Information Systems for Command, Control, Communications and Computers (ODISC4) Provides up to date information on the ODSIC4 and the Army's Information Mission Area. http://www.army.mil/disc4-pg/disc4.htm Office of Naval Research The Office of Naval Research (ONR) coordinates, executes, and promotes the science and technology programs of the United States Navy and Marine Corps through universities, government laboratories, and nonprofit organizations. http://www.onr.navy.mil/ Office of Strategic Phenomena The mission of the Office of Strategic Phenomena is to develop and maintain the means by which certain phenomenology data is to be archived, distributed, analyzed and used by the community of designers, experimenters, scientists, and wargamers working in the areas such as ballistic missile defense or in synthetic environments for more comprehensive DoD simulations. http://vader.nrl.navy.mil/osp.html The Pentagon Access the headquarters of the Department of Defense and get general information and tour schedules for the Pentagon. http://www.dtic.mil/defenselink/pubs/pentagon/index.html Persian Gulf War Illness Home Page Visit GulfLINK, the information system of the Persian Gulf War Veterans Illnesses Task Force. This service provides to the public information concerning the illnesses affecting Persian Gulf War veterans. http://www.dtic.dla.mil/gulflink/ Space & Naval Warfare Systems Command Information about the resources at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command. http://www.spawar.navy.mil/ U.S. Air Force The official web site of the U.S. Air Force. Contains news, fact sheets and photos of weapon systems, biographies and key leaders, the latest publications about the Air Force, and photos for current operations around the world. The site also lists more than 40 Air Force web sites around the world. http://www.dtic.mil/airforcelink/ U.S. Army Center of Military History The U.S. Army Center of Military History provides information on past Wars and Army history in general. http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/default.htm U.S. Army Homepage The Army Homepage is a central index for all U.S. Army Web sites. It is updated daily and has both Organizational and Subject lists. If you need to find a U.S. Army Homepage, you will find it here! http://www.army.mil/ U.S. Marines Corp Homepage The official World Wide Web information service of the United States Marine Corps. http://www.usmc.mil/ ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR]

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Re: Boom!
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:43 PM 8/8/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: >So, if it turns out that TWA 800 was an accidental wing tank explosion, will >they give us our civil liberties back? If not, why not? > You must be kidding. Civil rights (the real ones, not the affirmative action/antidiscrimination bullshit kind) only get constricted. The government only tightens the noose, it never loosens it. On a related note, it looks like Richard Jewell, the "Olympic Bomber," may not be charged and may even receive a page 37B "letter of clarification" from the Feds. No word on what the pack of 100 media vultures camped in his apartment's driveway will say. I suspect he will never live a normal life. Even if never charged, the splashing of private photos from his apartment--such as him cradling an AR-15 while dressed in camo--will stick in people's minds. What recourse does he have that camera crews were invited in on the searches? (*) (* In my local large city, San Jose, the cops used to invite the tabloid t.v. crews in on busts of suspected drug dealers. Kickbacks were probably involved. Anyway, the Fox network used to send camera crews in with the cops who kicked down doors, getting juicy coverage for "reality t.v." shows like "Cops." People in their underwear, people crying, people naked (Fox covered up the naughty bits digitally). After a privacy invasion lawsuit filed by one of the raided parties--I don't recall if they were ever found guilty or not, not that it matters--the cops stopped inviting the camera crews along. Judging by what I still see on t.v., other cities haven't stopped the practice. Surely a raid by cops, justified or not, does not give me, or you, or KCBS t.v. to tag along and enter a private home with our tape recorders and cameras rolling.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Fw: AOL crashes and burns
by Charley Sparks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Thu Aug 08 21:28:04 1996 - -----Begin Included Message ----- I thought things were a bit faster there for a while.. They had just rolled out AOL 3.0 in time for Mac World ( county ??) when it burned.... Seems some new server software gagged it <GRIN> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:16:38 -0500 From: Warrior <warrior(a)tateonline.com> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Cc: Great news, eh? - ---- End of forwarded message ---- Charles E. Sparks<sparks(a)bah.com> In God we trust, all others we encrypt ! http:/www.clark.net/pub/charley/index.htm Public Key At http://www.clark.net/pub/charley/cp_1.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCXAwUBMgqUJeJ+JZd/Y4yVAQGXpQQMC4HvZJDaHYOeSF/2nw4LEdSt6g+h5eZU NYo594LK9VTogbOLG/XgLol3aZ/GtQLyWs3gzbHFUwgByzZzjdDq+UEwbj4wV7jb XE3D1EJ5zCg3k7+Pbj4LKqag4VngD/0yd38bx7Okcvi3pfuwaPjIjNy/IStxZjV8 L6tHPzdlbwwa2g== =CG8R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Why should we trust the system?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

When supporting plans like GAK ("key escrow") and wiretaps, you will frequently see the Denning-types justify them by claiming that there's protection from a requirement that a judge issue a search warrant. It should be instructive, then, to present the Richard Jewell case as an excellent counter-example. Richard Jewell, as you should all be aware, is the poor soul who happened to first see that pipe bomb at the Atlanta Olympics. However, hours after it was publicly revealed that the Atlanta 911 center screwed up, wasting 10 minutes looking up the address of "Centennial park," officialdom suddenly discovered they needed news to divert attention from their buffoonery. They found it, as if on cue. Tonight, I saw a national network news show say how Jewell is apparently quite innocent, and that the news media was quite willingly "used" by the government to convict Jewell in the press. Great mea culpa, but that still leaves some serious questions. Presumably, the government got warrants to search Jewell's apartment, correct? Okay, what evidence did they use to support the granting of those warrants? What, EXACTLY, did they tell the judge that ostensibly convinced him to grant a warrant? Remember, police aren't supposed to get a warrant simply if they can't prove that a person is NOT a bomber. The standard is suppose to work the other way around: The police should get a warrant only if the amount of evidence of guilt (or, evidence of evidence) is sufficiently detailed to rise to a certain level of authority, known as "probable cause." Evidence doesn't evaporate. More precisely, the police had a responsibility to collect enough evidence together, POSITIVELY, to be able to show probable cause to believe that a crime had occurred, and that Jewell was guilty. Some of that evidence might, hypothetically, have initially appeared to show guilt and was later clarified, but that early evidence must still exist, to at least show the public that the cops didn't entirely fabricate the justifications they used to get the warrants. So I ask again, did the police/FBI EVER have enough evidence to convince anyone by that "probable cause" standard? Well, if they say they had it in the case of Richard Jewell, that isn't very reassuring. Okay, I'll admit that I _never_ believed that judges actually follow the standards they claim to. But many other people of those who are more establishmentarian than I (I guess that group includes just about everybody, huh?) at least pretend to believe this, or hope this, and maybe a few suckers actually do. It should be their responsibity, then, to show that the granting of a search warrant occurs only when justified. In Jewell's case, that was not the case. If we allow this fiasco to die without a full analysis, particularly in light of the government's repeated assurances with regards to search warrants, we will be as incompetent as the police were. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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driver license info, loss of liberty, etc.
by Pete Loshin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The furor over the Oregon DMV database seems a bit misplaced: this type of information is considered to be in the public domain. You can buy it on tape/whatever for business purposes direct from the state. There are lots of people who I don't want to have any information about me who can get what's on file down at the Mass Registry of Motor Vehicles. That's the way it works. Now, there's lots of times when it would have been nice to have access to that information myself. Use your imagination. Why should the public be denied the right to access this information when businesses have had that privilege for some time? I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to be taken away from businesses, either, though I suppose the states will now pass laws prohibiting the public dissemination of this data. BTW, has anyone heard about the Post Office now requiring that all airmail packages over 1 lb must now be posted in person (no mail drop boxes)? Someone told me this, and it sounds just stupid and pointless enough to be true. I won't have a chance to go to the PO until Monday, so I'd appreciate any updates. regards, -pl

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