December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:08 PM 8/19/96 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > >I personally find the web page very well and artistically done, and >extremely funny. The guy who did it had a good taste. I personally found the page to be offensive and disagree highly with the person having "good taste". Following the premise that another posted to this list, there were ways of focusing on opposing the CDA without insulting women and/or minorities. I also agree that this act is going to backfire by giving the DOJ fodder when the case reaches the Supreme Court. IMO, it was patently obvious that it was a kid or kids that did it who gave no substantial thought on the consequences of his/their act. ************************************************************ Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison(a)mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." ************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice.

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128-bit IE3.0 adventures
by David.K.Merriman＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, webmaster(a)microsoft.com Date: Tue Aug 20 09:42:56 1996 I *finally* managed to get through to the 1-800 number that pops up when an attempted download of 128-bit MSIE 3.0 fails. They can only send out 128-bit version *2.0*, it seems. They referred me to the 1-800 Sales number, but of course, the sales droids weren't savvy enough to understand the problem, and tried to hand me off to a 206 area code number. At that point, I called off the drill - I'm not going to pay for a toll call to fix MS's screwup. "original" 800 number: 1-800-455-2959 Alternate 800 number: 1-800-426-9400 (autobot) - select 3, then 4, then 1 to get a Real Person. Anyone else upset about being denied might want to give them a call, too. Who knows, maybe if they get enough calls, they'll send someone to fix it. Dave - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome, encouraged, and PREFERRED. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" I use Pronto Secure (tm) PGP-fluent Email software for Windows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhkYK8VrTvyYOzAZAQE0SgQApRBedkueeR2JTAJknfA7JGER/oNReVUK i8ImmNzjQDeionIkMbV2CuGOE/DwblVQ2yDgnUIBteNAFeiebwzdxaw9ysRKshRY 5AuvmXCyVsFJMNICFlZwNTRH+x4h7EPqA5BPxXJb+3b0sxWxqFcnU8QocJlFq+ap ksb0mwgbVYc= =L3IC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Indonesia detains democracy activist after post to mailing list (fwd)
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:18 PM 8/19/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > You know, Amnesty > has some outstanding policies regarding accuracy, objectivity, and > universality. Such as their policy that disappearances in Cuba are only mentioned in a vague and euphemistic way somewhere in the fine print of the middle of their Cuban reports, whereas similar disappearances are shouted from the rooftops when they happen in right wing South American dictatorships? --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: [NOISE] Naked woman decrapitates man on Internet!!!
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue Aug 20 16:55:54 1996 > Seven billion (thousand million for you Brits) people in the world. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually everybody uses billion as 10^12 (except Americans -> 10^9). ;-) America is getting more and more of an island... ;-) - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMhnR+xFhy5sz+bTpAQFAvggAwnWNgUTs0vpnwtK34AJjictQlLOZrhYl ANY8xoZ3cLKlcLZmLIo2m+N9QOrO9Bdp4Q1op1KTa9BUUDH0vl5rZak5C/L/+TKw EDp2N143ANWGrz5xd3BgFd/ly8VEPwVGQc85yjW6noRIl+5GUHaYKtNPGzr0V6oU d83igcL3/zU9GGwT6l1r7o/U/+cjy6Poui2IZYlVqy564kE2s71ztlVH687ZAHaF ZTRdkLZqi56AjI1g684zKik0qQ98SdQpHqz1CpzT6BuDS954bk3gip95Znu4PtYu vSEDTsTNf05jNqpjDHTLtPSSELgjNmA07Sb8PLlqJOWLcWVmYQP3Eg== =8mhr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [NOISE] Naked woman decrapitates man on Internet!!!
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: >Seven billion (thousand million for you Brits) people in the world. More >than 10,000 deaths every hour, or about 5 deaths per second. >What's so sick about one measly death? Just another crime, like >thousands of others every day. They just got caught. At least he's >immortalized on the Net. Only 24 hours in each day. How do you spend your time? James Spray my name on a subway train Carve my name in a video game Out looking for the camera crew Sell my soul for a second on the six-o'clock news Gonna live 'til the bubble pops Hold my breath when the big one drops Immortality is what I'm buying But I'd rather be immortal by not dying.

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Securing Internet mail at the MTA level
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Recently, I've been looking into securing email at the MTA level, and would like to get your thoughts on implementation possibilities and related issues. The problems that I'm trying to solve are: 1. Host authentication 2. Data privacy In order for the widespread encryption to work, several things need to occur: 1. Phase-in of the new stuff 2. Backward compatibility (ability to continue to work in the clear) for a period of years 3. A single worldwide mechanism, defined by an RFC, and freely available, except, perhaps, in the case of commercial MTAs. (i.e., the use of RSA seems appropriate for host and session key management, and is free via RSAREF in the US, free outside of the US, but not free for commercial use. This seems acceptable to me.) Two types of approaches are possible: 1. Adding to the SMTP protocol itself, allowing for MTAs to identify crypto-capable peers, and then performing authentication and session encryption where possible. 2. Waiting for a cryptographic transport layer network protocol (such as what is being proposed in draft-ietf-tls-ssh-00), allowing SMTP to remain untouched, and only requiring MTAs to add support for the new network protocol. I like the second approach better, because it allows more problems to be solved with one move, and it would be easier to add crypto functionality to our common network utilities by simply making them aware of the new transport layer protocol. The first approach would require redefinitions of RFCs for each of the services, and lots of redundant work. I mentioned my interest in an SSH-capable MTA to Tatu Ylonen <ylo(a)ssh.fi>, and he as also expressed interest. The word from him on the status of the SSH Internet Draft is that a reference implementation should be available early next month. I'm considering using that reference implementation to add SSH capability to an MTA, perhaps sendmail. My questions are: 1. Which of the two approaches seems to make the most sense to you? 2. Is there another approach that could work better? 3. Is there interest in adding SSH functionality to sendmail in the near future (either by the draft spec, or once the RFC has been published)? Please feel free to pass this around, if you deem appropriate. I'm interested in lots of feedback before deciding if and how to go ahead with the project. Thanks. -- C Matthew Curtin MEGASOFT, LLC Director, Security Architecture I speak only for myself. Don't whine to anyone but me about anything I say. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/

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Re: BlackNet: Commercial Posts?
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Or About 19 Aug 96, 18:40, Timothy C. May wrote: > At 1:05 PM 8/19/96, Ross Wright wrote: > > > >My question to the list: > > > >Who benefits from all this publicity and brew-ha-ha? Who makes all > >the BlackNet money? Who really cares if it is a Data Haven or just > >a remailer? I'm just asking. > > Well, obviously I do. I receive $1.42 for every posting which > mentions BlackNet, 7% of gross sales for all commercial > transactions, and 12.5% plus a sliding finder's fee for all military > and intelligence secrets sold via BlackNet. > > But all true paranoiacs knew this. > > --Aldrich Ames > Hey, It's not funny. So this is freeware? I thought someone offered 3 mil for the program. Tim, you wrote this thing? So who owns it now? Can it be owned? Maybe I misunderstand. Ross =========== Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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[NOISE] other distributed searches
by morgan＠keilin.helsinki.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Two distributed searches on the net are described in Science (9 August 1996 p. 743). One is a search for "Mersenne" prime numbers: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/justforfun/prime.htm The other is called SETI@home and apparently going to use idle time on people's computers (a screen saver) to search for patterns in data from Arecibo. The report says the project will be set up by Woody Sullivan of University of Washington, Seattle and will operate out of a server in Berkeley. (I wasn't able to locate any information about this on the web.) -- ===================================================================== Joel.Morgan(a)Helsinki.FI http://blues.helsinki.fi/~morgan "Over the mountains there are mountains." -- Chang-rae Lee =====================================================================

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Re: US Taxes on X-Pats (getting off topic)
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:32 PM 8/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >It sounds unfair, for sure. However, the whole thing is a fraud based >upon a myth. FICA witholding is NOT credited to an individual's account, >or even to Social Security benefits in general. By statutory law, all >such receipts go into the Treasury's general fund. > >So, they are NOT "social security contributions". Period. > Very true...what I am saying is that, as far as my reading goes, LEGAL aliens are going to be required to pay social security "taxes" while not having any "entitlement" in return. They pay income taxes and get certain things, like law and order, in return. They will be paying soc sec money to the government without getting anything in return. This sounds not only unfair but wrong, part of an isolationist, "we killed the natives so this land is our land and the rest of you f@*k-off" revival that includes the recent posting about requiring proof of citizenship before issuing drivers licenses. Stephen

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ok ok ok i know
by Ryan M. Leach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

sorry to bother the list with this but i lost the message describing the "unsubscribing" methods for this list (it's way to big for me) can some one mail me instr. on unsubscribing? TIA

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