December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: DON'T Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

how do i get off this list?

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No Subject
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Below-bit-level encoding
by James Erickson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

how the hell do i get of this list?

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Re: Esther Dyson on Remailers
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:52 AM 9/1/96 -0400, Dave Farber wrote: >EFF does not, to my knowledge, (and I am a Board Member) have an >organizational view on this issue. There are a lot of different views and >each member of EFF has their own view that they can and will state as >private people. The tendency of the Press to label people with organizations >affiliation ship gives the impression of organizational views. For example I >certainly don't speak for the University of Pennsylvania when I say thing to >the newspapers. > >Dave > At CFP in '95 in SF, Esther expressed the view that there was a place on the Net for an anonymous ghetto (my words not hers) where people could be anonymous but that most of the net would involve traceability of transactions so that people could be held accountable and that businesses and individuals would want to know who they were dealing with for payment and accountability reasons. I am not stating her position well I'm sure but it was clear that she thought that non-anonymity would be the rule not because it was mandated but just because Net actors would want it that way. A short quote would not allow anyone to understand her full position. If she believes that anonymity would be rejected voluntarily for practical reasons then that is just a prediction of a market not a conclusion. Most on this list would have no objection to making a prediction though we might disagree with it. Just as Esther predicted that the net would end copyright, we might predict that the net combined with immediate settlement payment systems might reduce if not eliminate the need for "positive ID." DCF

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Re: FC: The end of an era: anon.penet.fi shutdown, Stockholm conf
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Addressed to: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)eff.org> Cypherpunks <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> = The shutdown of anon.penet.fi marks an end of an era -- and perhaps it was = inevitable. [--snip--] = But the closure isn't a permanent loss to the Net. The concept behind = deploying anonymous remailers is that [--snip--] = ...they're temporary and expendable -- if one government attacks a = remailer, another appears in another jurisdiction. [--snip--] it was = time for Helsingus' remailer to go offline. It had served its purpose. = Declan: I think you are missing the most import service that Johan Helsingius provided: a means of anonymous corres- pondence with services for victims of child abuse, domestic violence, alcholism, etc. *** people who needed to reach out to someone *** I fully subscribe to the Cypherpunk remailers, particu- lary MixMaster and Middleman, but they do not serve this purpose. However, maybe as part of social responsibility, we should provide one or more remailers with databases --and EXCLUDE addressing except to the help lines. and, of course, make it easy enough for the victims to request additional addresses. yes, it may take a little effort to upgrade the target addresses, etc. but it should be done. noone knows what the courts will rule on any matter of privacy with Bubba at the helm, but correspondence to shelters and the like has been adjudicated off-limits to FOI, etc. I will speak to several ISPs, and if one of them will permit me to accept the "responsibility," I will initiate one. I have no problem defending it legally. attila -- Now, with a black jack mule you wish to harness, you walk up, look him in the eye, and hit him with a 2X4 over the left eye. If he blinks, hit him over the right eye! He'll cooperate --so will politicians.

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Cypherpunks Lite
by youssefy＠ucla.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a posting by someone about three weeks ago that gave the address for a person who ran a filtered version of the cypherpunks list, can someone please repost that information?

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SNAKEOIL? Top Secret for Windows
by frogfarm＠yakko.cs.wmich.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: sk510019(a)mail.idt.net (Siva Krishna) Newsgroups: comp.archives.ms-windows.announce Subject: tsecret.zip - TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file. Message-ID: <9608312039.cg4898(a)Simtel.Net> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:39:29 GMT I have uploaded to Simtel.Net: http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip 12070 bytes tsecret.zip TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file TOPSECRET is a program to encrypt your sensitive files. This program does not use the RSA standard (which is restricted for export). This program uses the aid of a "Catalyst" file (which can be any file) to encrypt another file (any file). The Catalyst acts as a key to code and decode your sensitive files. Of course you can even make your own catalyst by encrypting one file with another. A periodically changing Catalyst can be made by combining 1-Registered mail file 2-Courier file 3-Last message file; This would ensure high security for the transmission of your sensitive files.I am sure you will come up with your own methods. Shareware. Uploaded by the author. Siva Krishna sk510019(a)mail.idt.net -- http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm ...for the best in unapproved information EmmaGoldmanCamillePagliaMarieCurieAynRandSapphoDianaToriAmosPJHarvey&Demona All generalizations are false, with the exception of this one I feel a groove comin' on | $ | Freedom...yeah, right.

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Re: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by loki＠infonex.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:45 PM 8/31/96, Declan McCullagh wrote: <SNIP> >Note Esther Dyson's comments: > > "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in > any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic > Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at > somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how > do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for > unpopular opinions." > <SNIP> Is this the official EFF position on remailers? This strong anti-remailer position needs to be retracted or widely publicized. -Lance ---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://www.obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

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BOM_ban
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to DL for noting this report. 8-31-96. WaPo: "New Airport Bomb Plan Considered. Computer Profiles, High-Tech Detectors Central to System" A presidential commission on aviation security is considering a bomb detection plan that would require U.S. airlines to scrutinize all passengers at U.S. airports using massive computer files to identify potential terrorists or other suspicious individuals. The plan would require creation of a computer profiling system that would examine passengers' bill-paying records, flying habits and much other data to determine which checked baggage should undergo examination by sophisticated explosives detection equipment. Numerous legal issues still need to be resolved, including thorny civil liberties questions such as whether the airlines would be given access to information from government computer systems like those containing criminal records. Would the airlines store information on individuals? Would they go out and seek information from credit bureaus and other private sources? ----- http://jya.com/bomban.txt (10 kb) via anonymizer BOM_ban

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"Security risks" vs. "credit risks"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The news that airports/airlines (more on this difference in a bit) may be establishing a data base of security risks sounds Big Brotherish. But, how is it so much different from credit risks and credit reporting data bases? If, for example, private airlines (and the U.S. has only private airlines, not any "public" or "national" airline) wish to check the data bases on their customers, is this not quite similar to checking credit risks and ratings before lending money? There is great danger, to be sure, especially if one's writings and public utterances become entries into a "threat data base." But I see nothing unsurprising in, say, American Airlines expressing more interest in Jim Bell or Tim May, both of whom have written publically about terrorism and "soft targets," and both of whom have written about how to make pipe bombs, than in Marianne Smith, retired school teacher from Peoria. And there is even more danger--even unconstitutionality--in *government involvement* in such data bases. It's unclear from what I've seen if this data base is to be run like the private credit ratings agencies or if it is to have inputs from the FBI, NSA, Interpol, SDECE, etc. Remember, private airlines are just that: private. Surely we do not support laws which limit a private airline from using data it has acquired to decide whom to pay closer attention to. This is the essence of what knowledge is. (So long as none of this is mandatory. If Tim's Pretty Good Airline wishes to not bother screening customers, this should not be illegal. Nor, to my mind, should TPGA be exposed to negligence lawsuits, so long as his policies are clearly spelled out.) I find the notion that one's speeches and Usenet utterances could "harm one's security rating" a distasteful idea, but so long as such security ratings are handled by private players, and used by private players, I see no illegality. (Of course, the major credit reporting agencies--TRW Credit, Equifax, and TransUnion--already collude with the government. They collude to falsify credit ratings, to create identies and histories that never existed when they say they did, and to provide government with data bases for various purposes. Obviously a "TRW Security" function would be at least as corrupt, maybe more so.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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