December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://upside.master.com:8080/print/july96/ww9607.html w a s h i n g t o n w a t c h The Coming Internet Wars Michael C. Maibach There's a very real danger that for the first time both the PC and the Internet will be regulated and taxed. The PC industry policy landscape has never been so dynamic, as telecom deregulation and technology convergence take hold. Being on the cutting edge of technology places us at the leading edge of public policy. Here's what's coming. In Washington A group of U.S. long-distance resellers has petitioned the Federal Communications Commission to outlaw (yes, outlaw) Internet telephony software. Their view is that the unregulated Net should not compete with regulated carriers. The PC industry's position is that the FCC doesn't have the authority to outlaw this or any software. A much more significant threat is a possible RBOC petition asking the FCC to levy access charges on all "enhanced services," such as the Internet. They seem to object to ISPs moving data, e-mail, graphics and calls outside of the current "universal service" monopoly established by the 1934 Communications Act. The PC industry's number one telecom goal is competition in the local loop. Such competition should drive more bandwidth at a lower cost. Only the Net offers a modicum of competition to local service. If the FCC pulls the Net into the archaic telecom regulatory system, access charges could chill use of the most important telecom medium in the world. The FCC must also set advanced digital TV broadcast standards. As TVs move into the digital PC world, let's make sure that broadcast signals over public airwaves are both PC- and TV-compatible. And speaking of consumer electronics, digital videodiscs (DVDs), with 10 times the capacity of a CD-ROM and studio-quality output, are on the way. The motion picture and consumer electronics industries drafted legislation to protect content while enabling this new market. Unfortunately, their bill would inadvertently outlaw PCs as illegal copy devices! PC hardware and software makers have a vested interest in the success of DVD technology because it allows the copying of data and images. We, perhaps more than any other industry, want DVD technology to advance. But legal protections and private standards must make this a technology as open to PC users as it is to movie buffs. Finally, Washington is considering measures to strengthen copyright protection of material moved on the Internet, require closed captioning on PCs that pick up TV broadcast signals and forbid software exports that have strong encryption protections in the name of national security. An industry that has grown up with private standard-setting in an open, unregulated environment now faces the kind of intense regulatory pressures one is accustomed to seeing in the railroad or drug industries. This is spurred on by the convergence of FCC-regulated industries with PC markets, products and technologies. In State Capitals Action in many U.S. state capitals reflects themes developing in Washington. Long-distance resellers have asked state public utility commissions (PUCs) to outlaw Internet telephony software, for example. Florida and California are considering taxing "digital commerce" they fear may bypass state sales tax regimes. And a few RBOCs have actually petitioned state PUCs to allow increases in ISDN installation and usage fees. Members of the PC industry, working with consumer groups and Internet warriors, have successfully challenged such rate hikes. Lower ISDN prices and easier hookup should drive huge volume increases in this market, benefiting local phone companies and PC users. Around the World So far, activity abroad is less robust than in the U.S., but it's just a matter of time. The European Union recently reclassified PCs with CD-ROM drives as "consumer electronics devices," tripling their import tariffs. Moreover, Europe is considering a "TV without borders" policy that would impose domestic content requirements on TV programming. Since movies are a type of software, will proposals to limit the sale of "foreign" PC software follow? And governments in Europe, Canada and Australia are considering a "bit tax" on digital commerce. The old world of analog TV and telecom regulation must not spill over into the new world of competitive, open and digital markets. Governments must adopt the PC model of innovation and govern accordingly. In the U.S., the FCC must evolve into a Federal Competition Commission, and Congress should carefully guard digital commerce technologies that are changing the way we work, learn, consume and communicate. Michael C. Maibach is vice president for government affairs at Intel Corp. in Washington, D.C. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Home | Upside Magazine | Entrepreneur Forum | Upside Locator | About Upside Comments and suggestions for this site are welcome via e-mail to: feedback(a)upside.com Copyright ©1996 Upside Publishing Company. All rights reserved. Powered by Thunderstone.

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RE: Internal Passports
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've seen the same problem in a department store in Ottawa. They would not accept a Canadian Passport as identification for payment by cheque but would accept various credit cards and similar devices. My conclusion was that they wanted something that would show my friend's credit worthiness, not prove his identity. James Declan McCullagh <declan(a)eff.org> >I had the same problems when I was working at Xerox in Webster, NY. >Supermarkets just plain didn't want to accept my passport as valid ID. >> At 15:48 8/4/96, Bill Stewart wrote: >> >> A US passport is not considered valid ID by the State of Oregon. If >> somebody here doesn't belive this, send someone who looks like he >> might be under 21 into any liquor store in Oregon with just an US >> passport.

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Re: Cookies on Microsoft Explorer?
by David.K.Merriman＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: alano(a)teleport.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed Aug 07 10:46:25 1996 > At 09:14 AM 8/6/96 -0700, David.K.Merriman.-.webmaster(a)cygnus.com, > wrote: > > >I have IE3 configured to ask me for permission to accept a cookie. Yes, > >some sites send (n!)+1 cookies during a session. If they send too many, > I > >personally move on to another site, after sending them email (!). > > If the site sends you *LOTS* of cookies with no expire date, then they > have > probibly compiled their Apache server with the mod_cookie module. The > cookies are only used by the log files and i am willing to bet that > most > people who have that option compiled in do not even read the logs. Whatever the conditions/causes for the cookiefest, I make it known to them that the volume of cookies gives me electronic diabetes, and move on. I suspect that there will eventually be enough people that dislike being force-fed cookies and complaining about it that such sites will either fold, or get a klew. Dave - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome and encouraged. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAi3uZ2MAAAEEALWQtxX77SZSaFls6cVbPp+fZS4MNyKK3ZFYQo0qWyj+0tMq YgRTPRJRaCQixo63RttknogfPp514qdVMZw5iPeOXmD+RxrmTTwlbGqA7QUiG1x5 LG2Zims5zk4U6/rt8hwLh0/8E4lIb9r5d31qc8L1A9Twk/cmN8VrTvyYOzAZAAUR tBg8bWVycmltYW5AYW1hb25saW5lLmNvbT60KURhdmlkIEsuIE1lcnJpbWFuIDxt ZXJyaW1hbkBtZXRyb25ldC5jb20+iQCVAwUQLqwCX5IDOImWiDcFAQHFfwP/Tm5v 3zoijU9oYmAO1WVsw4+HamN0HdBKkDxPtuGeCmxNuiDPsucVjqctMfbh1WzCfNEb NfZdg3YVdDNgsQqlu4k8XznrbQSoQm3t5ySQNKvQx0KisJnee0caVpEgQ4bwSfuv 81TG08lJt4A0fIpXSllMnRkXenvXIBmgJTUklaiJAJUDBRAupxG0qWOYkEirxV0B AUUJBACJ0FYXTlR9ncd0tNnYGOGSLO1scgt8IxUDMyQ2htEsfSNxD6jg303LuAA/ Zset5p0JhACLLHbgtZlpYH4uQbjy9Ve9JrVm/6SysSnX1TfSNF5NoMcxGDYgNDRL tP/5jKRZ/hzH8vjHSWXnnN9Pb1MdYdWql4DjDQ+dIEm5sywbqIkAlQIFEC3uaE3F a078mDswGQEBbI8D/0FiwDcbfeNyDVJ+7EIWHjIxVkIGu+ArYUEllR3GSBHVZ9Vh 7n8bNXeNHMnG5cZ23TLMVvweyhxFS+cDi+I7omeDNr6x65z500LxfUvLK5bSuSiB VkTp2z+/iojY/662JwKHzEEunuJ4CO8Yhxy11CdeszEX7DpXzRxLL92rEmO2 =QZRc - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMggDg8VrTvyYOzAZAQE6cQP+JE18wLLTHDsmId+zFHh3Q5x7wA2oyS3/ 7FWxE5zWGipUxNT/tlRF/jdinMoLkg27Q7iQ1uoI4TDa5VE9pV6uGilCHN2naM0y A9Tvebxr/pHUj+hr0jYUCWzY6VQ2+q5icG11DHm3/iXhAF1SJHJJj2xi9zx4PRCv zINv8AXkFmg= =ps5w -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: The Solution: 20 Beautiful women
by David.K.Merriman＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: accessnt(a)ozemail.com.au, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed Aug 07 10:46:46 1996 > I pat myself on the head. I am extremely brilliant. > Modest, too :-) > She who is most luscious > ___ > Mark Neely - accessnt(a)ozemail.com.au > Lawyer, Internet Consultant, Professional Cynic > Author: Australian Beginner's Guide to the Internet (2nd Ed.) > Australian Business Guide to the Internet > Internet Guide for Teachers, Students & Parents > WWW: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~accessnt > > Dave Merriman "I am not conceited. Conceit is a downfall, and I have none." - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome and encouraged. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAi3uZ2MAAAEEALWQtxX77SZSaFls6cVbPp+fZS4MNyKK3ZFYQo0qWyj+0tMq YgRTPRJRaCQixo63RttknogfPp514qdVMZw5iPeOXmD+RxrmTTwlbGqA7QUiG1x5 LG2Zims5zk4U6/rt8hwLh0/8E4lIb9r5d31qc8L1A9Twk/cmN8VrTvyYOzAZAAUR tBg8bWVycmltYW5AYW1hb25saW5lLmNvbT60KURhdmlkIEsuIE1lcnJpbWFuIDxt ZXJyaW1hbkBtZXRyb25ldC5jb20+iQCVAwUQLqwCX5IDOImWiDcFAQHFfwP/Tm5v 3zoijU9oYmAO1WVsw4+HamN0HdBKkDxPtuGeCmxNuiDPsucVjqctMfbh1WzCfNEb NfZdg3YVdDNgsQqlu4k8XznrbQSoQm3t5ySQNKvQx0KisJnee0caVpEgQ4bwSfuv 81TG08lJt4A0fIpXSllMnRkXenvXIBmgJTUklaiJAJUDBRAupxG0qWOYkEirxV0B AUUJBACJ0FYXTlR9ncd0tNnYGOGSLO1scgt8IxUDMyQ2htEsfSNxD6jg303LuAA/ Zset5p0JhACLLHbgtZlpYH4uQbjy9Ve9JrVm/6SysSnX1TfSNF5NoMcxGDYgNDRL tP/5jKRZ/hzH8vjHSWXnnN9Pb1MdYdWql4DjDQ+dIEm5sywbqIkAlQIFEC3uaE3F a078mDswGQEBbI8D/0FiwDcbfeNyDVJ+7EIWHjIxVkIGu+ArYUEllR3GSBHVZ9Vh 7n8bNXeNHMnG5cZ23TLMVvweyhxFS+cDi+I7omeDNr6x65z500LxfUvLK5bSuSiB VkTp2z+/iojY/662JwKHzEEunuJ4CO8Yhxy11CdeszEX7DpXzRxLL92rEmO2 =QZRc - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMggDmMVrTvyYOzAZAQFIRgP/daZBRoJrHSGHFgUR3s5ofjrhF49yp3Wh OxyhrjZ1oPFCz1n7Nzii18JXFlaCCRzppgBYcr6/t777bhHVs3PeLpQNHW5q4xLD U+mOo9J0UF1TMVcAiYD9b4wVlLlcU+qa0PVYcuRLw3QbWd3g7eqABKpwKWyWibI4 CVUttLIzwX4= =yCpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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cookie monster
by kickboxer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anybody have any information on the "Cookie Monster" technology that Netscape and Microsoft are soon going to incorperate in their internet browsers? All I know is that they take cookies and "eat" (destroy) them.

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New domains, Internic, etcetera
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Given previous discussion on here about Internic and their policies, the below URLs may be of interest: http://www.iiia.org/lists/newdom/ ftp://ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/internet-drafts/draft-postel-iana-itld-admin-01.txt The former is the list archive for a list discussing getting more internet domains & equivalents of Internic. -Allen

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Oregen Vehicle Database on the Net
by jfricker＠vertexgroup.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Aaron Nabil has purchased the entire Oregen Vehicle Registration database ($220) and put it on the Web. Did some oregonian piss you off on the highway? snail flame their arse! http://www.spiritone.com/cgi-bin/plates

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Re: Apple people on the li
by Vinnie Moscaritolo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:15 PM 8/6/96 GMT, John Young wrote: >I'd like to hear Tim, too, in this Big Apple. RealAudio, perhaps. >What would you offer to set off Tim's simmering crypto-anarcho-volcano, >make it heard round the planet? I can't offer much that would satify Tim's needs, he would have to look elsewhere for that (I will restrain my comment about a size 12 boot) The Mac crtpyo workshop http://webstuff.apple.com/~opentpt/crypto.html is just that, a workshop: a guerilla effort focused at Mac developers who write code to start including crypto in thier code. I am also sponsering an effort among developers to do keychain management on the Mac, In a manner similar to the popular Internet Config. Developers get together, talk, hack, and go home with plans to write stuff. What I offer developers is much more important to me right now. people complain about email apps not having built in crypto, I am trying to do something about it. So are folks like Olivier Merenne who does SafeMail http://www.highware.com/highware/safemail/safemail.htm . these are the kinds of people that I want to help. The workshop us not a forum for the very people that Tim complains about, to rant about how great the Mac is or isnt. or why crypto is good or bad, I will leave that to the wired.coms and other non-tech forums out there. I agree with Tim, If you really want to hear tim talk, you cant ead his rants on cp or I have a better idea, maybe you can send him some bucks and he'll send you a cassette tape or something (I would suggest he makes a quicktime movie and put it on your webpage or do a webcast, but that requires you buy into the Apple world doesnt it, so maybe you can do the windoze equiv) nuff said, cp Vinnie Moscaritolo Apple Developer Tech Support http://www.vmeng.com/vinnie/ Fingerprint: 4FA3298150E404F2782501876EA2146A

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Re: Anonymous Remailers at work
by peter.allan＠aeat.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 21:05:24 -0700 > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > From: Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> > Subject: Anonymous Remailers at work > I've recently run into a couple of business problems at work > that could be solved by (slightly modified) remailers. > 1) Manager performance review, suggestion boxes, and questions to > visiting honchos - there are several departments that are using > "email to the secretary who'll take your name off and forward it" > to handle this problem. Remailers are an obvious solution. > It would probably be worth modifying the remailer to use a permit-list > as well as a block-list for destinations and maybe sources, > Any other reasons to install anonymous remailers at work, > and things you'd do to make them more attractive or > less scary to corporate network administrative types? I have a very crude + simple remailer using shell scripts. There is re-ordering and a standard message size. There is no scope for receipts or replies. I limit messages to 1kb to make it harder to send images. (There was once a management complaint about images- nothing to do with me or the remailer which hadn't started then.) It can only send and receive mail INSIDE the company. I have not advertised it widely, for fear of a management veto. It carries a warning to be sensible, and I'd be able to read the mail log following complaints. There is a short banned list, intended only to stop looping. In another message Bill said: > immigrant Brits and ... speaking funny-soundin' English at you. Um, some of us really do speak English. To the point where we struggle to make out Larry King and guest both mumbling away at high speed.

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Re: Censorship through proxy
by Arun Mehta 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 18:12 06/08/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 4:23 PM 8/6/96, Joel McNamara wrote: >>http://www.singnet.com.sg/cache/sbareg.html > >Sing Sing (the country is now a prison, so...) is one of the states we >should think about targetting for "special attention." Yes, that would be great, and a trial run for the Big Prize, China. At the site mentioned above, they have a form to fill out, which only people from Singapore are supposed to respond to, which asks a lot of questions, including how much censorship users consider appropriate! If there is some way of making them think the response is coming from within Singapore when actually it isn't, maybe we could flood them with responses saying we want no censorship? Arun Mehta Phone +91-11-6841172, 6849103 amehta(a)cpsr.org http://www.cerfnet.com/~amehta/ finger amehta(a)cerfnet.com for public key

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