December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

alien life found
by pjb＠ny.ubs.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

it's no good them showing up now. welfare for alien life forms, even if they are just germ life forms, is definitely out, as of right now, so they shouldn't even ask. -paul crypto relevance? it's obviously, isn't it? > From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Wed Aug 7 18:47:42 1996 > X-Sender: schryver(a)radiks.net > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="us-ascii"> > Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 05:20:33 -0500 > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > From: Scott Schryvers <schryver(a)radiks.net> > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Content-Length: 380 > > NBC News at Sunrise has just announced the discovery of alien life on the > planet Mars. The lifeform that became extinct more than 2 billion years > ago was found as a fossil in a meteor that originated from mars and landed > on earth. The fossil found was a primitive germ life form. > > PGP encrypted mail preferred. > E-Mail me for my key. > Scott J. Schryvers <schryver(a)radiks.net> > >

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Re: Imprisoned for Not Having a Gun?
by Peter Trei 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Tim writes: > > Regarding that town nearby that passed a _requirement_ that all households > have a gun: [...] Quite a while back, I read an article in National Rifleman (the NRA magazine), that for part of the 19th century it was the law that all adult men in the Balkan statelet of Montenegro must carry a pistol when in public (a close relative of the ruler had a monopoly on the manufacture and sale of firearms in the kingdom). Traveler's reports noted the extreme civility of Montenegrin society during this period. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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Re: "Thank you for not smoking" and other euphemisms
by Peter Trei 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

> (And then there's the "sliding scale donation suggested," say, from $5 to > $15. Presumably this is the embodiment of pure Marxist theory, "from each > according to his ability, to each according to his need." Be interesting to > see their reaction if one declined to make any donation.) > > --Tim May This summer I went to meet my wife at the American Museum of Natural History in NYC, and discovered that I had a total of 10 cents in pennies in my pocket - and that they took only cash or checks, and the 'suggested donation' was $6. The nearest cash machine was several blocks away. So, I paid 10 cents. The cashier took it without batting an eye, gave my my donor's tag (they no longer use the little metal ones depicting a dinosaur (sigh)), and said 'Thank you'. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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Re: Going Postal (Was: Boom!)
by tcmay＠got.net 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

At 12:50 AM 8/9/96, Mike Duvos wrote: > >The Post Office has now jumped on the terrorist bandwagon by >announcing that it will no longer be legal to drop any package >weighing over 16 ounces into a collection box. Actually, CNN was reporting that this is for _airmail_ only. Which makes a certain kind of sense, given the situation with bomb technology. >Larger packages will have to be presented in person at the >Post Office, and I wouldn't be surprised if several forms of >ID were required. The usual alternatives of UPS (cheaper) and FedEx (not so cheap) should still be viable. This could actually boost their business. I just had some Evil Smokeless Powder delivered to me via UPS. (The Post Office people will not handle this stuff...it either violates their union contracts or management is afraid the employees will use it to go postal with.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Oregon DMV database: "Needs a good home"
by jim bell 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

The Oregon DMV database needs a new home. I've seen a few mentions of willing volunteers, but I've deleted the notes. Could you re-send offers of interest to me? Thanks. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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anarchy cookbook???
by Michael Cortes 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

cypherpunks Ok this is what happend.I was looking around on the www. And came across the jolly roger "anarchy cookbook" and i was wondering.Any one know what happend to jolly roger? -Zac ps: Oh and sorry for like all fucken up on my last letter heh

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Re: Tim's Mac Tales
by jya＠pipeline.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Thaks to Tim for politely noting that I alfingered most admirable Gordon Moore as mal intendu Intel-inside wheeler-dealer. That's actually Andy Grove, el supremo maestro of Intel intel despicably untellable -- except to those deep, deep inside black budgeteering. A crank SciFi fantasy, to be sure, long ago, and well into the intel futures, disproven. Like NASDAQ never cheats consumers.

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Re: Oregon License Plate Site in the News Tonight!
by Bill Stewart 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Cypherpunks, Aaron - >> I'm watching the LA NBC news channel, and they report that the Oregon "look >> up any license plate" Web site is causing a flap. Though apparently legal, >> the critics admit, the Governor wants the material removed. ( Aaron Nabil's page is at http://www.i.net/cgi-bin/plates , but temporarily won't give you license plate information.) A nice touch, at least for now, would be to put up some propaganda about "The State of Oregon sells your license plate information to anyone who wants to buy it. Big companies have it. Small sleazy companies have it. Tax collectors have it. Car thieves and burglars can buy it if they want. Everybody but _you_ has it -- I've put it on the net so you can have it too. If this bothers you (and maybe it should), don't complain to the governor about it being on the web - complain that the State is selling your private data. I've taken the server down temporarily, but press HERE for the Governor's info, HERE for Senator Hatfield (AAA001), and HERE for the DMV head bureaucrat?" If you want to get fancy, you could have the search return a FOUND / NOT FOUND record, so people could check for vanity license plates (if Oregon has them), or search for well-known politicians' information. The data's there; it's just a matter of crunching it. "Big Bro knows License Plate AAA001, Mr. M. H. " "Big Brother doesn't know License Plate AAA" # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Defuse Authority!

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Re: PGP Mailer for the masses ?
by geoff＠commtouch.co.il 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: provos(a)wserver.physnet.uni-hamburg.de, coderpunks(a)toad.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Aug 09 15:56:37 1996 Niels, Thanks, for describing the features of Pronto Secure :) This is how Pronto Secure matches up to your checklist: > Here is just a short list what such a programm should be able to > do: ( all options should be optional ;) > > Sending Mail: > - Clear signing of outgoing mail YES > - If public key of recipients is known encrypt with those keys YES > - If there is access to a public keyserver try to get a public key > for the recipients YES > Receiving Mail: > - While reading mail ( similiar to premail ) try to check existing > signatures if public key is available otherwise try to get > public key from server YES (do on the fly signature checking as mail arrives in inbox) > - Traverse the web of trust and show how the public key is > related to one own keys to mutual signatures on other public keys > ( For example mean distance to a key signed by the recipient > himself ) NO (we handle certification by allowing the user to modify a list of trusted certifiers for signing keys) > - If the mail contains a public key add it to the keyring NO (Key is shown as an attachment icon double click on it adds it to the keyring) > - Don't show pgp blocks in Mail since they might confuse YES > Keymanagement: > - Should be integrated in the addressbook together with E-Mail > Address and name. YES > - Keys should be imported via generation or via mail or via a file YES (or the clipboard) > - If you have a public key without an entry in the addressbook > take the EMail and Name from the public key YES (or prompt user to supply address) > - One should be able to sign the keys during import if origin is > known NO (signing keys is a separate process. This gives the user an opportunity to authenticate on another channel) > Misc: > - Passphrase should be kept in memory for a definable time, 0 for > immediate deletion, thus you would be prompted for the passphrase > each time you use it. Question about Windows Swapspace ? or tag the > memory as uncacheable ? NO (Keyboard sniffing is too easy to do in Windows, This would give a false sense of security) > I would suggest creating a library with seperate io and gui parts in > order to motivate peeple in helping who do not want to support > mainstream products like Windows. Like taking the PGP 3.0 lib ( is it > out yet ?) and modify it a bit. YES (Separating UI from security functionality is also the right way to go for offering plug in security providers) > Since there are a variety of good functioning mailers available > already it wouldn't make sense developing the whole stuff but instead > only integrate the library into existing products. NO (It will not be an easy task to design a general library of UI elements that any mail client will be able to seemlessly plug into.) > Do you think that such proposal is senseable and that there are > people who would be willing to support the idea with programming > affords ? It exists. Plus a few additional features not mentioned, and a much longer wish-list in the process of being implemented. Check it out. It is available from http://www.commtouch.com/p1.htm IMPORTANT: COMMTOUCH WILL GIVE A FREE COPY OF PRONTO SECURE TO ANY MEMBER OF THE CODERPUNKS/CYPHERPUNKS LISTS SUPPLYING USEFUL FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PRODUCT. The impressions of early users of Pronto Secure can be viewed at: http://www.commtouch.com/testers.htm (many of whom are list members) Regards, Geoff. - --------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Klein, Pronto Secure Product Manager; www.commtouch.com My PGP public Key 1814AD45 can be obtained by sending a message to geoff(a)commtouch.co.il with "Get PGP Key" as the subject. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMgs1ikLv5OMYFK1FAQGe/gP/RdXtVIwo7aupkJn6X4VNTuNHHymPf9fJ k7FAsONAAP9qbr4UaWzJXxWuvmxLgt5gsMpk6yzp6vY80krQqPf6SqphW7FOjGTq PB05bNLDHm9SRGjVvKRHzGbOr094gkFpeso2C3MeMiDbT0J5gsLJOeMJsIb4NW2A lHZ6e+o535w= =R2jc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Going Postal (Was: Boom!)
by David.K.Merriman＠toad.com 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Aug 09 10:12:37 1996 > The Post Office has now jumped on the terrorist bandwagon by > announcing that it will no longer be legal to drop any package > weighing over 16 ounces into a collection box. > ... > > I suspect one could do a lot of damage to a mailbox with under 16 > ounces of the proper explosive. Perhaps one of our resident > Cypherpunks bomb experts could expand on this subject. Don't know that I'm a 'bomb expert', but it would appear reasonable that 6 just-under-a-pound bombs would do approximately as much damage as a similarly sized larger device. Even if the 6 devices got scattered to two or more aircraft, the terror factor would be significant Dave Merriman - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Email welcome, encouraged, and PREFERRED. Visit my web site at http://www.shellback.com/p/merriman for my PGP key and fingerprint "What is the sound of one hand clapping in a forest with no one there to hear it?" I use Pronto Secure (tm) PGP-fluent Email software for Windows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCUAwUBMgqeo8VrTvyYOzAZAQFGfAP3ZL7pgWjadNN93mtwdG4cm60VjGcdP4G9 JlwS96gs6QJ0lD1CImMQL82KUIYe1IpPidC3bq5kTQhGbdM69yFiUmCxOGNwnH1L pEbeEZ/OGDf0bnk/BYhoRKp1ufgdTVVSB1T0WZEYIaLe2zX1zzQPli4LW4UPUrds 5tmjt4QMEg== =AZ0H -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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