December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Private Idaho
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could anyone tell me the URL of the latest version of Private Idaho..... Thank You! ========================================== Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk

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Re: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike McNally wrote: >Bart Croughs wrote: >> ... better arguments (after reading the books I suggested) >Like what is it with you and these books? Is "Austrian" a code word >for "Divine omniscient extraterrestrial super-being"? No, but a number of posters claimed they were Austrians, and among them was Timothy May. So if I can show that Timothy's statements contradict the economic theories he says he supports on the most fundamental level (the level of methodology), then I have a pretty solid case that he is a bit confused and that he should do his homework better before he continues arguing. Unless of course he can show the Austrians (or me) to be wrong; but he hasn't done this yet. >Through all this sophist gibberish I've completely lost track of >what exactly it is you're trying to say. I don't blame you when you get the impression that Austrian methodology, compressed in a couple of sentences, is sophist gibberish. Without the proper background knowledge, this is probably unavoidable; methodology is a rather difficult subject. But if you are really interested and want to know more about it, you now know where to look... Bart Croughs

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Re: Imprisoned Capital
by Bart Croughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

James A. Donald wrote: >[In response the argument that attempts to imprison capital will cause >capital flight] >At 10:50 PM 8/16/96 +-200, Bart Croughs wrote: >> This is a good point when you talk about governments that will >> prevent *all* capital from flowing out. But a government could >> prevent the outflow of capital of it's own citizens, and still >> allow capital of foreigners to leave the country. As long as >> foreign capital isn't imprisoned, foreign capital could be >> attracted. >Been tried. Does not work. >1. If foreign capital is allowed to freely enter and leave, internal >players find ways to sneak their capital out. This forces the >government to start regulating and supervising foreign businessmen >in ways that at best terrify them (such controls look very much >like creeping confiscation), and at worst cause them huge harm >with no real benefits to anyone. I think you are probably right that *in practice* it will not work when the government tries to prevent domestic capital from flowing out and at the same time will allow capital of foreigners to freely flow in and out. After all, government doesn't work. But this doesn't prove the theoretical case that an outflow of capital wouldn't hurt the standard of living of workers in a country. As long as this isn't proven, governments have an excuse to try again and impose controls on capital (and this time of course, they will do it better...) Bart Croughs

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Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:42 AM 8/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >>CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers" >>to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it. Well the DOJ site still is down, but here's some details I pulled out of a USENET newsgroup this morning (hopefully L.G. Shirley won't mind the forward). All in all, it sounds like a fairly childish stunt... From: "L. G. Shirley" <lgshirley(a)mail.worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner Subject: DOJ homepage hacked!!! Date: 17 Aug 1996 22:47:59 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 49 Message-ID: <4v5i6v$hm8(a)mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> About 10PM last night I clicked on my bookmark for the Federal Gov't and then selected, by random, the Dept of Justice. http://justice2.usdoj.gov/ SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!! Someone had made a few changes, For one it is now called the Department of Injustice. You are immediately greeted by the Nazi swastika all over your screen's background. A flag w/the symbol is apparent. George Washington's picture is captioned with his words, "Move my grave to a free country! This rolling is making me an insomniac". Janet Reno's portrait has been replaced by Hitler's. And a flag now bears the Nazi symbol. She is now called Attorney General Furher. There is plenty of nudity and the many links will take you to places you may never have been before. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto! I have no clues how it was done or when. My guess is someone changed all the links to the DOJ page to another one, the one you see when you click on the DOJ's homepage. I worked today and when I came home and tried to get back to the DOJ's page, no luck. Must be a major overload <grin> of people trying to get to the link of women clad in, well, next to nothing and tied with rope! I don't think the author will make any brownie points w/women. He hacked the homepage they have w/the DOJ on violence against women. I'm not condoning such action and violence is a very serious issue but whoever did the hack was also very serious. He changed a Clinton speech on affirmative action and insulted blacks with his choice of words. There is a lot of rambling about the internet and the Gov't taking away our rights on it. The author has a interesting slant on things. This should be enough of a warning if you're easily offended by racism, hate, foul language, porn on the net, and general crudeness. Don't go there. I would like to know just how this was done, any ideas? Is it that easy to hack someones homepage? I wonder how long it'll be before this homepage link is removed and can they find who did the evil deed? Two months on the Net and just when I think I'd seen it all, wow.

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CS First Boston lawsuit
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a lawsuit files in federal court in New York City, CS First Bostom has charged an unknown party with libel, slander and violation of the Federal Telecommunications Act, as well as with impoerly obtaining confidential financial information and sending it out in e-mail messages. The lawsuit seeks damages of at least $1M against "FBCbuster" and "FBCbuster2", the aliases of an America Online AOL) subscriber or subscribers. AOL was not named as a defendant in the lawsuit, which concerns two separate e-mail messages sent to First Boston employees. The suit sais the firsy e-mail message, which was sent on March 3, included a "macabre poem" about the destruction of the firm. In a second message, sent a week later, the lswsuit states that the writer included confidential salary information about current and former officers of the firm. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: US Taxes on X-Pats
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Pardon me for jumping in...but a year ago I won a case in tax court brought aainst me by the IRA for not paying taxes on income earned while living overseas...apart from the verdict, the whole thing was a complete farce! My advice is to research the subject in detail before leaving the country and file IRS returns faithfully every year regardless of where you live even if you owe no tax (I owed no tax so filed no returns, penalty for not filing = % of tax owed, so no penalty for not filing, but only IF the IRS agrees you don't owe). Yes, there has been talk in the Clinton administration of dropping the overseas earning provision. You might want to email either Sen. Byron Dorgan or Sen. Kent Conrad of N.D. since both these guys were State Tax Commssioners before going to Washington and seem to be clued in on federal tax issues. The report I read in the Orlando Sentinel suggested that Clinton felt the exclusion was a money loser desined to help US corporations get employees to work overseas. However, it seems to me that it is also part of the complex web of international tax treaties designed to prevent double taxation. If you are a US citizen earning in a country that has an income tax they are likely going to expect you to pay tax, just as we tax foreign nationals living here. My impression is that many IRS staff lack in-depth knowledge of this very complex area (for example, I paid tax on my overseas income to the government of the country in which I was living when I earned it and that country has a tax treaty with the US...after about 6 very scary phone calls the agent assigned to the case agreed that I did not owe income tax...but then he tried to hit me up for thousands fo dollars in self-employed soc sec contribution -- when I told him that was also covered under a reciprocal treaty it was complete news to him...he asked me, and I wish I had taped the call, to send him the IRS document in which I had read this!) The result is often months of very stressful waiting, staring huge penalties in the face, while they learn up on the subject and say "I guess you're right, you don't owe that $60,000 in unpaid tax and penalties we asked the judge to award us." I still have a state tax lien triggered by this bogus action against me lying around on one of my credit reports. Respectfully...Stephen ps The recent US legislation denying soc sec benefits to legal aliens seems to be a breach of the referred to above. pps The relation to cypto is :-)?

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Re: Schlafly on crypto
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:44 PM 8/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >I don't think that Schlafy is a usefull aly any more than Bob Dole >basically its just opportunist politicians latching onto the rhetoric >of debates without engaging in the argument. Dole senses that the mood >of the country is pro crypto so he supports that, he senses that it >is anti porn so he will support that. > >Basically Schlafy is playing the same game. She is saying things that >she knows will curry favour so she can get people to join her Wacko >club. > Phil I tend to agree...anyone who thinks victory for Dole/Kemp in 96 means strong free unescrowed crypto in 97 needs to read a few history books. Stephen

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THE POUCH
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Allow me to quote from your web page: http://www.flagler.com/security.html Quote #1: "The POUCH is a secure e-mail terminal program for IBM compatible computers. It uses a secret key phrase, advanced cryptographic techniques and several unpublished algorithms to protect data in the body of e-mail messages. The key phrase, which can be up to 48 bytes long, is easily remembered and communicated. The POUCH is highly resistant to all known forms of cryptographic attack." Quote #2: "We warrant that the product when delivered to you has no short cuts, covert channels or secret solutions of any kind. No other warranty, either expressed or implied is given." These two statements are contradictory; an unpublished algorithm is itself a secret solution, and a covert channel. Why is it that software manufacturers keep popping up and spewing nonsense? Obscurity is not security. Making the algorithm proprietary does extremely little in making it resistant to attack. All of your statements regarding the security of "The Pouch" are worthless, for you have no data with which to substantiate your claims. If it is any good, there's no way for us to know. But your marketing of the product has every indication that it's nothing more than smoke and mirrors. To coin a phrase, "pseudocrypto." Please refrain from your bogus marketing techniques. This kind of stuff, by claiming to be "real cryptography" makes real cryptographers look bad. - -- C Matthew Curtin MEGASOFT, LLC Director, Security Architecture I speak only for myself. Don't whine to anyone but me about anything I say. Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Have you encrypted your data today? iQCVAwUBMhdZaBhyYuO2QvP9AQHaxQP+OvqYc9U/3BTPwnEhL/9ADkzL+ulhILpj 1zbyhktoCB4yMB13WQgm05DM6lolUufo63nkhsX4giMhrQ2XCBeM5/8pxJOD2ThY 3+foxma7e3tUv8r6PjNlnhn2TzVPPgbN+6NdpUCbNtOpG8GsD4EdQ35S+H0Y+aJm 75FfHfaDrNQ= =6Zxy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Hackers invade DOJ web site
by Stephen Cobb 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:03 PM 8/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >CNN online (http://www.cnn.com) is reporting a "breakin" by "hackers" >to the DOJ web site. They don't elaborate exactly how thy did it. > >______c_________________________________________________________________ >Mike M Nally * Tiv^H^H^H IBM * Austin TX * For the time being, > m5(a)tivoli.com * m101(a)io.com * > <URL:http://www.io.com/~m101> * three heads and eight arms. > If anyone happens to know which vulnerability(s) this hack exploited I would be most grateful if they could let me know, either on the list or privately (stephen(a)iu.net) I am not asking for someone to publish the attack script or specifics of what was done to get in, but I would like to know what holes were used (e.g. cgi script error). Respectfully...Stephen

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Re: Private Idaho
by Shawn Dudar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:55 AM 8/18/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >Could anyone tell me the URL of the latest version of Private Idaho..... > >Thank You! >========================================== > Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> > ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± > Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk > > http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ __________________ / PGP public key |___________________________ / available on | ~ Shawn Dudar ~ |___________________ ( keyserver | |Fingerprint: / \ KeyID: 0xC0AF244D | <sdudar(a)solutions.net> |90 AA D0 52 D3 A6/ \__________________| <sdudar(a)westeel.ca> |93 96 AD C2 CB ( (_____________________________|98 12 C0 FF 30 \ PGP. Use it! Protect yourself! (____________________\ For more info, point your browser to http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/ "There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Author Unknown -- "Practice safe eating - always use condiments." -- Author Unknown -- "In a press conference held yesterday in Seattle, WA, Bill Gates formally announced that Microsoft Corporation has declared bankruptcy..." -- Dream headline --

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