December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: CIA hacked
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From DMiskell(a)envirolink.org Fri Sep 20 10:26:25 1996 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:09:09 EDT for dlv Received: from uhost1.servtech.com by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA16770 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Fri, 20 Sep 96 10:26:25 -0400 Received: from mocha.hotliquid.com (mocha.hotliquid.com [204.249.118.9]) by uhost1.servtech.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03565; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:26:20 GMT Received: from [150.160.45.150] by mocha.hotliquid.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03490; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:21:30 -0400 X-Sender: darius(a)hotliquid.com Message-Id: <v01540b02ae685d525f6c(a)[150.160.45.150]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:41:54 -0500 To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) From: DMiskell(a)envirolink.org (Daniel Christopher Miskell) Subject: Re: CIA hacked Cc: tcmay(a)got.net >>From remailer(a)mailhub.bart.nl Thu Sep 19 13:18:03 1996 >Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) > via UUCP; Thu, 19 Sep 96 16:10:20 EDT > for dlv >Received: from spoof.bART.nl by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) >via SMTP; > id AA03960 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Thu, 19 Sep 96 13:18:03 -0400 >Received: (from remailer@localhost) by spoof.bart.nl (8.7.5/8.6.8) id >TAA28972 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:19:58 +0200 (MET DST) >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:19:58 +0200 (MET DST) >Message-Id: <199609191719.TAA28972(a)spoof.bart.nl> >To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com >From: remailer(a)2005.bart.nl (Anonymous) >Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to ><remailer-admin(a)remailer.nl.com> > The contents of this message are neither approved or > condoned by nl.com or our host bART Internet. > *** Replying to it will not send your reply to the sender *** > There is no way to determine the originator of this message. If you wish >to be blocked from receiving all anonymous mail, send your request to the ><remailer-operators(a)c2.org> mailing list. The operator of this particular >remailer can be reached at <remailer-admin(a)remailer.nl.com> >Subject: Re: CIA hacked > >Return-Path: <cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com> >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: CIA hacked >From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) >Comments: Dole/Kemp '96! >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 96 08:08:39 EDT >Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > >Mike van der Merwe <mikev(a)is.co.za> writes: >> I'm sure we will find out in a few years that Microsoft invented the >> Net. Or brought it to the masses. Or saved it from a certain and >> early demise. Or all of the above. >> JAMES SEYMOUR > >>Dr. John M. Grubor created the 'net. > >Who created you? You tub of shit? Dude, why do you even bother? It is simply not constructive to keep insulting and stabbing at people. You gripe about the non-crypto-relevent stuff, then you go and create it repeatedly. If you don't like what people have to say, take your potty mouth to another list. Daniel. -- If in fact we are the only intelligent life on this planet, why the fuck are we in this goddamn mess? -- Find my public key on the World Wide Web -- point your browser at: http://bs.mit.edu:8001/pks-toplev.html

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Paradox: NO OPPRESSION IN AMERICA
by Douglas B. Renner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Those of you who took Logic 1001 will recall the paradox known as "The Heap" which goes like this: 1. A single grain of sand does not constitute a heap of sand. 2. You can create a heap from a non-heap by adding a single grain of sand. 3. Therefore, there is *NO SUCH THING* as a heap of sand. You with me here? Okay, this is important, because the public actually does think like this: 1. Our current society in America is not oppressive. (generally accepted) 2. You cannot change a non-oppressive society into an oppressive society by removing one liberty from its citizens. (also generally accepted) 3. Therefore, it is not possible for America to become an oppressive society. Sleep well, Douglas B. Renner

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Declan McCullagh interview on ISP-TV Monday Night
by ISP-TV Main Contact 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** ISP-TV Program Announcement: Declan McCullagh Interview *** Monday, Sept. 23 9:00 PM ET Online activist Declan McCullagh runs the Justice on Campus project, is a plaintiff in the ACLU/EFF court challenge to the Communications Decency Act, and maintains the Fight-Censorship mailing list. He also writes for WIRED/HotWired, and recently described the CDA trial to readers of Playboy Magazine. Our chat with Declan will include details of international Internet censorship, his discoveries concerning what some "Safe Surf" products actually protect you from, the difference between "indecent" and "harmful to minors" in new Internet censorship laws, as well as your phoned-in questions. This video interview can be viewed on the ISP-TV main CU-SeeMe reflector at IP 205.197.247.33, or other ISP-TV affiliate reflectors listed at http://www.digex.net/isptv/members.html See URL http://www.digex.net/isptv for more information about the ISP-TV Network

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A daily warning regarding Tim C[ocksucker] Maya, the lying sack of shit
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C[ocksucker] Maya studied yoga back-streching exercises for five years so he could blow himself (nobody else will).

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Re: CNET Digital Dispatch Vol. 2 No. 38
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EDS is a large company Perot used to own.. I worked for them for a short time...a very short time.. Ryan ---------- Previous Message ---------- To: cypherpunks cc: From: osborne @ gateway.grumman.com (Rick Osborne) @ smtp Date: 09/20/96 02:12:22 AM Subject: CNET Digital Dispatch Vol. 2 No. 38 This week's c|net digital dispatch had the following top ten list. For number 8, did they mean DES or is the EDS something I'm not aware of. I figure it has to be because what does DES have to do with chat rooms? >9. TOP TEN REASONS WHY THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES WON'T TAKE >PLACE ON THE WEB > >10. Kemp would fight with Dole over who gets to > "quarterback" the keyboard. >9. Oops: Gore plugged information superhighway cable > into White House central vacuum system. >8. Perot's crack team of EDS hackers would get him > in somehow. >7. Hotwired editors say presidential candidates not > hip enough. >6. Hillary doesn't let the President in ANY chat rooms. >5. Debate commission insists: event must be on Prodigy. >4. Bill Gates owns the rights to online debates. >3. Dole's Selectric won't connect to the Net. >2. Chelsea is using the White House PC to write a > book report. >1. In cyberspace, no one can feel your pain. ____________________________________________________________ Rick Osborne osborne(a)gateway.grumman.com "The universe doesn't give you any points for doing things that are easy."

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by JUDGExMAD＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unscribe cypherpunks(a)toad.com

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Re: ANYONES CREDIT CARD # per your request.
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:03 AM 9/20/96 EDT, Brian Hills wrote: >Thought this would be appropriate to the list >>Unfortunately, this message needs to be propagated to protect all of us. >> >> Note: Lexis-Nexis is only accepting written or fax requests. You can go to their web page (http://www.lexis-nexis.com) click "Just In" and request via email that your name be removed from their database by filling out the form. Problem, of course, is that one doesn't know if one's name and info is in the database unless one is a subscriber and can look it up. I, personally, do not feel comfortable in filling out a form with my personal info and sending it along - 1) for the obvious reasons; and 2) what if I'm not even in their nefarious database? If not, then I've just entered my personal info and sent it on its merry way to whomever and wherever unnecessarily - whether by email, fax, or snail mail. I tried just entering my name, email address, and state but, as anticipated, received a msg that ALL info has to be supplied, so I'll chk with someone I know that has an account to see if my name is there. However, the BIGGEST problem I foresee with this database (and others like it) is that someone eventually is going to hack it - and then watch the fun and games ensue. ********************************************************** Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison(a)mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice. **********************************************************

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by Peter Hrabinsky 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [joke, non-code] Re: Get this for a snake-oil example :
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Fri Sep 20 10:51:21 1996 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Fri, 20 Sep 96 11:09:22 EDT for dlv Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA19108 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Fri, 20 Sep 96 10:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([(null)]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad15131; 20 Sep 96 14:41 GMT Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk ([158.152.120.223]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa06534; 20 Sep 96 15:36 BST Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk by fatmans.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA843156112 ; Thu, 19 Sep 96 18:01:52 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> From: paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:01:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [joke, non-code] Re: Get this for a snake-oil example : Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-Id: <843230178.6534.0(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> > > Shamster: SHA-enabled biocomputing hamster. > > I'm sure Timmy would like to wrap one up in duct tape and shove it > up his ass... 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Re: DL in exchange for fingerprint
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:10 PM 9/19/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 9:13 PM 9/19/96, Gary Howland wrote: >>> Paraphrasing that famous quote, just which part of "not for identification" >>> don't they understand? >> >>Hmm - who are you paraphrasing here? (Just curious). > >"What part of "No" don't you understand?" > >and > >"What part of "Congress shall make no law" don't you understand?" The question as to Social Security numbers came up earlier today in a conversation off-list. Do any of the lawyer types that hang out here know the exact statutes as to use and misuse of Social Security numbers? My understanding (probably flawed) is that it is (or was) illegal for certain types of businesses to ask for SS numbers. Does anyone know what the actual laws regarding this are? Pointers to statute numbers would also be appreciated. Also, I noticed that the text "Not for Indentification" does not appear on later versions of the Social Security cards. (Comparing my card with my fathers showed some interesting differences. That text change was the most glaring.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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