December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Private Idaho
by Shawn Dudar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:55 AM 8/18/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >Could anyone tell me the URL of the latest version of Private Idaho..... > >Thank You! >========================================== > Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> > ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± > Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk > > http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ __________________ / PGP public key |___________________________ / available on | ~ Shawn Dudar ~ |___________________ ( keyserver | |Fingerprint: / \ KeyID: 0xC0AF244D | <sdudar(a)solutions.net> |90 AA D0 52 D3 A6/ \__________________| <sdudar(a)westeel.ca> |93 96 AD C2 CB ( (_____________________________|98 12 C0 FF 30 \ PGP. Use it! Protect yourself! (____________________\ For more info, point your browser to http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/ "There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Author Unknown -- "Practice safe eating - always use condiments." -- Author Unknown -- "In a press conference held yesterday in Seattle, WA, Bill Gates formally announced that Microsoft Corporation has declared bankruptcy..." -- Dream headline --

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DEADBEEF Attack??
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: forget photographing license plates!
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:46 PM 8/17/96 -0800, Adamsc wrote: >On 15 Aug 96 01:31:08 -0800, null(a)void.com wrote: > >>"In the 22 Jul 1996 issue of Fortune was an interesting look into the future >>of automobile electronics, "Soon Your Dashboard Will Do Everything (Except >>Steer)". " >>From the control center, they can "electronically reach into the car" to >>unlock the doors, or honk the horn and flash its lights." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >How long do you think it would be before thieves subverted this feature? It already happens now. There is a device for determining the code sequence and frequency of electronic locks that was designed for locksmiths and repair personel. Thieves have been using it for breaking into vehicles. The scam usually happens in large mall parking lots. They just sit in their car and wait for you to open yours, watching for the lock information displayed. Once you are gone, they unlock it and swipe all of your freshly purchaced goodies. Theives have also been known to use replacement garage door openers to open up the homes of those too ignorant to change the default codes of their garage door systems. Something to be said for low tech in this case... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: National Socio-Economic Security Need for Encryption Technology
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:59 PM 8/18/96 +-200, Bart Croughs wrote: > No, but a number of posters claimed they were Austrians, > and among them was Timothy May. So if I can show that > Timothy's statements contradict the economic theories > he says he supports on the most fundamental level > (the level of methodology), Obviously the Austrians, like anyone with half a brain, said that more capital means more wealth for everyone, and more capital relative to workers means a bigger share for the workers. It does not follow however, that the Austrians said that if the government directs the flow of other peoples capital like a farmer watering his fields, the fields so watered will benefit. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Why BlackNet *IS* a Data Haven
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim McCoy and Larry Dettweiler have, in their own ways, raised objections to my characterization of BlackNet (and that class of mechanisms) as a distributed, untraceable, robust "data haven." Without splitting too many semantic hairs about the precise definition of "data haven," let me examine some ways in which BlackNet behaves identically to a conventional data haven. Imagine a piece of data has been outlawed in some jurisdiction. For simplicity, imagine this to be a book, a text. Let's give it a name, "The Necronomicon." This "Necronomicon" is contraband, illegal, forbidden, banned, on The Index in many countries, including the Vatican and the United States. (This is just an example. Replace "Necronomicon" with "child porn" for a more realistic, if distasteful to many, example.) The classical, Sterling-style "data haven" would have it that this piece of data, this book, is stored and is available (perhaps for a price) in a physical site. Maybe Anguilla (thought this is appearing less and less likely), maybe "The Raft," maybe an orbiting DeathStar, maybe a weather balloon drifting in the jet stream... The classical data haven is closely identified with "place." To many people, they naturally assume "data haven" = a haven for data, a "harbor" (same IE root as haven) = a physical place. But is "place" important? Consider someone in the United States who wants a copy of the Necronomicon. He can't get it locally, as it is banned. He can try dialing-in or connecting to a country where it is not banned, but this introduces risks (as with those who download child porn, arrrange to have it shipped to them, etc.). (And the physical jurisdictions which carrry the Necronomicon, or child porn, or Church of Scientology secrets, etc., will likely be under pressure to limit or deny access.) Cryptography offers another way, as it does in so many other areas. A person in the U.S. seeking the Necronomicon posts a message to BlackNet (or any similar forum, using the same methods) asking for a copy of it, or offering to pay for it. (Whether the information is free or for a fee is not central to the idea.) This request is, of course, untraceable. Anyone, anywhere in the world, with a copy of this banned material on his or her private machines may see this request and respond, either giving the material away, or negotiating a fee. (As I said before, the absence of a robust digital cash system, bidirectionally untraceable, is a known limitation of all such systems.) Thus, it is as if there is a "virtual data haven" (tm), or a "virtual library," for banned/controversial/etc. materials. Anyone may "check out" materials by submitting requests (and perhaps paying a fee). The source of the materials is, of course, unknown. The receiver of the materials if, of course, unknown. I call this at least as functional as a "physical data haven," where someone might physically travel to Anguilla, say, to buy a copy of the Necronomicon... ...and a whole lot more convenient. This is, then, my vision of a "distributed, robust, untraceable data haven." It's a data haven. And it exists, or at least there are exemplars of it. It's lacking robust digital money, to keep the transactions untraceable, but it's here. The Church of Scientology documents essentially exist at this virtual data haven site. Think about it. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Anonymous info
by admin＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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MSIE 128 bit version
by Andy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I know this topic has been covered before, but could somebody point me to MSIE's 128 bit version? Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhfJNtZDmDuLFgC9AQEdgwP+MjfLcs+KiZkMg/MIR0Hp+Gz6ksgjRSvL D2NS3k3zzPNqj316Kod0/i8p+rNoWcWJ08aQRsykni1mPSkhPSxCVgEbSRv/eb+g 3ePKekPhZEaXWQDskcQ1yw4rC7meqQqKF2R1nwrohzQvX369hGsrg1xxP0jlvBuF nrrUeP3Sg4E= =d3S9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Final release of Navigator (with strong crypto) now available
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > > > Jeff Weinstein (jsw(a)netscape.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > : The final release of Navigator 3.0, complete with non-exportable > > > > : strong crypto, is now available for download by US citizens. Note > > > > : that this is the released version of 3.0, so it will not expire. > > > > : You can get it from: > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to both supply an Linux ELF and a.out binary ? > > > > > > No, we will only be supplying ELF. Since linux is not officially > > > supported, we really don't have the resources to do multiple versions. > > > > ELF is cool. What about BSD? I've seen how you support BSDI so the > > binary should work with FreeBSD or NetBSD.? > > I'm not quite sure what the question is here. Your old version supported BSDI. Will the new 128bit version support BSDI in ELF or a.out? > Jeff Weinstein - Electronic Munitions Specialist > Netscape Communication Corporation > jsw(a)netscape.com - http://home.netscape.com/people/jsw -- Love, Qut(a)netcom.com

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No Subject
by Alan Horowitz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Faun A. Skyles wrote: > Are the typical "mom & pop" mail forwarding companies going to understand > snail-mail gateways? Some of them refuse to use a computer! Oh my God. A business that didn't computerize itself. Don't they know, that modern situational ethics require a business to place itself at the mercy of a computer, whether or not the old, manual systems were working JUST FINE. And then they have to upgrade their hardare every two years, so that they can balance their checkbook in 256 colors. And then they have to upgrade to the latest version of WordPerfect every two years, whether or not the old typewriter and manila file folders were working JUST FINE. Oh how superior we young squirts are to those antiquarians. Hey, let's sit around and make fun of them and criticize them. > For example, > many charge $2 - $3 to transcribe a telephone message for you, then they > snail mail it to your next location. Oh my God. Charging the customer for each service rendered, so that those who place demands on the time of the business - pay for it. Oh my God, someone using the Postal System, which is still head-and-shoulder above the Internet in universal accessibility on the road, entry costs and security. Hey let's sit around and criticise that. After all, we don't want to admit that not every message in the world needs to be delivered to the recipient in ten minutes or less. > It's pretty low-tech. I'd like to offer a high-tech alternative. And who's stopping you? I've got ten dollars that says that you don't have the balls/intestinal fortitude to do it, and keep it going for - oh, let's say the five years that the IRS uses to judge a business's profitability? > My grandparents are still using old forms of communications too! Well that's the final straw. What a useless and meaningless life they have. We couldn't admit or accept that they've got a completely happy life, could we.

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terrorists to hit Dem convention?
by an224850＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 8 Num. 85 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") - ----------------------------------------------------------------- RUMOR MILL NEWS SERVICE #4 ========================== The Rumor Mill News Service is edited by "RU". The following, from what I can tell, appears to be RUMOR ONLY. What is more, I have NO IDEA who the author is; I received the following anonymously, with the promise of "more to come". + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + HIT THE ROAD JACK! ================== Clinton Told to Step Aside Before Democratic Convention ---------------------------- The President Retaliates: EXECUTIVE ORDER 13010 Creates Terrorist Gestapo ---------------------------- CHICAGO BRACING FOR TERRORISTS! ------------------------------- Police State Reactivated In Chicago Is The Nation Far Behind? ----------------------------------- Will Clinton Use EO# 13010 To Declare Martial Law? -------------------------------------------------- Later this month, the Democratic Convention returns to Chicago. When it was there in 1968, the country was ablaze in anti-Viet Nam War fever. Anti-war demonstrators all but brought the convention and Chicago to their knees. In today's world, demonstrators are labeled terrorists. Armed with today's stronger "label," the Chicago police are gearing up for a repeat performance of the Chicago 7 and "Brutalmania." Terrorists have officially replaced demonstrators, according to the terrorist bill recently passed by Congress. As an accompaniment to the terrorist bill, "Terrorist Bill" signed Presidential Executive Order 13010, the Critical Infrastructure Protection Order. This Presidential Order creates a special Task Force called the Infrastructure Protection Task Force, IPTF. The sweeping array of power and information that will be provided to the IPTF makes FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Association] look like the Mouseketeers. -+- Effective Date August 17 -+- The Presidential Order goes into effect August 17, just shortly after the Republican Convention. Speculation exists that the Terrorist Gestapo will be trotted out just in time to prevent riots and terrorism in Chicago at the Democratic Convention. As a result of the expected terrorist threat, the Chicago police superintendent has seen fit to restore all the old police powers, powers that some citizens of Chicago say bordered on a police state. -+- The Red Squad Joins The Terrorist Gestapo -+- The infamous Chicago Police intelligence unit, the Red Squad, has been reactivated and given an all-encompassing directive of keeping the city free from terrorist activity. The Red Squad bears a striking resemblance, on a local level, to the Terrorist Gestapo created by Presidential Executive Order #13010, which goes into effect on August 17. The Democratic Convention begins August 26. Thanks to the new terrorist bill and the Presidential Executive Order on protecting the critical infrastructure, the new handy-dandy terrorist label can easily fit almost anyone in any situation. Back in 1968, the police were slightly encumbered by the Constitution and "probable cause." Under today's terrorist bill, which was passed in the nick of time to ensure terrorist cooperation at the convention, the Chicago police no longer have to be hamstrung by the "outdated," "antiquated" Constitution. "The IPTF's function is to identify and coordinate existing expertise, inside and outside of the Federal Government." In Chicago, the "existing expertise" is the Red Squad. Under Executive Order 13010 the IPTF, otherwise known as the Terrorist Gestapo, is ordered to "provide, or facilitate and coordinate the provision of, expert guidance to critical infrastructures *to* *detect*, *prevent*, *halt*, *or* *confine* *an* *attack*..." Chicago is getting ready to declare martial law to protect the President and other members of the Democratic party while they are at the convention. They will coordinate all activities with the Terrorist Gestapo. The IPTF has been given the go-ahead to detect, prevent, halt or confine an attack. All executive departments and agencies have been ordered to cooperate with the IPTF and provide requested assistance. Furthermore, all executive departments and agencies have been ordered to share information when "requested" by IPTF. In other words, the Terrorist Gestapo has been given an all-encompassing power by Executive Order 13010. Anyone or any agency or department that refuses a "request" made by the IPTF can be labeled a traitor or a terrorist and prosecuted accordingly. This Terrorist Gestapo force will parlay its power into a national police force. The tap dance they plan on doing in Chicago with the old Chicago Red Squad will be a trial run to see how much they can get away with in order to call up the next round of Presidential Executive Orders and Directives. -+- Even the Sewer Covers Are Welded Shut -+- To prevent terrorist moles from infiltrating any part of the convention, the police have even welded shut all the storm sewers around the United Center in Chicago, the forum for the Democratic Convention. -+- Step Down or Step Aside -+- Does all the rapid activity in the Office of Presidential Executive Orders have anything to do with the secret White House meeting which took place Saturday, August 3, 1996? The meeting took place barely a day and a half after President Clinton raged at a Rose Garden news conference. He had been asked if he had gone back on his word to pay the legal bills for fired and then prosecuted White House Travel Office employee, Billy Dale. He bristled in anger and rage and began berating the CBS correspondent who asked the question. As his temper and voice rose, Chief of Staff Leon Panetta was seen frantically waving to press aides to end the news conference. As the President's staff tried to herd him back into the safety of the Oval Office, the President was heard screaming at the media. Could the reason for this uncharacteristic outburst of temper and rage have been that the President knew that 10 of the top leaders of the Democratic party were planning on ordering him to step down or step aside, and do it two days before the Democratic Convention begins in Chicago? RMNews sources from the Chicago and Washington stations have reported that the secret meeting was chaired by former DNC Chairman and Ambassador to Russia, Robert Strauss. Mr. Strauss, who vehemently denies being at the meeting, is considered the ranking elder statesman of the Democratic party. Strauss and his gang of 10 high-ranking Democratic leaders allegedly told Clinton that the gathering storm of indictments and revelations against Hillary would destroy the Democratic Party. The President was shown a photograph of the upcoming federal criminal indictment which accuses her of perjury and obstruction of justice. The President shouted in rage that they were all "traitors." Knowing that Executive Order 13010 had just created the Terrorist Gestapo, the President's angry use of the word traitor carried sinister and potentially deadly overtones to the 10 brave men who are risking their careers and lives to save the Democratic Party. Countering Clinton's raging outburst with one of his own, Ambassador Strauss reportedly smashed an ashtray on a desk near the President and shouted, "You use cocaine and liquor. You are unfit to deal with worldwide emergencies." The President screamed back at Strauss with a string of obscenities and curses. Strauss fired back that the President is acting deranged and as such could be removed by the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. Strauss allegedly ordered the President to resign his office or to declare before the Democratic Convention that he does not wish to be nominated for a second term. The President has never officially declared that he is a candidate for the Presidency. Of course, since, as already noted, Strauss denies having been present in person at the August 3rd meeting, he presumably would also deny having smashed down an ashtray, having engaged in a shouting match with President Clinton, etc. Prior to the secret meeting, the "Gang of 10," with the aid of others, have secretly arranged for damaging stories on the president and his wife to leak out. One story was already leaked by the Director of Central Intelligence, John Deutch. The CIA Director ordered the Inspector General to investigate claims that U.S. Intelligence Agencies were involved in illegal arms shipments and drug smuggling at an isolated airstrip in Mena, Arkansas during the years that Bill Clinton was Governor. Susan Schmidt of the Washington Post broke the story on August 7, four days after the secret White House ultimatum. [CN: Late breaking: Deutch now says he wants to resign as DCIA and return to the Pentagon. Did trying to lift the lid on Mena expose him to too much hostility within CIA? Or perhaps, as suggested by Linda Thompson, it is "cross pollination" between CIA and the military.] Clinton later sent word to the Gang of 10 that he did not accede to their demands. He was then told that a floor fight would take place at the Democratic Convention by prominent delegates. These delegates would charge him and the first lady with participating in a string of crimes and accuse them of damaging or destroying the Democratic Party. -+- The Secret Trials Begin -+- With the all-encompassing powers given to the Terrorist Gestapo by Presidential Order 13010, "Terrorist Bill" has the power to "confine an attack." The attack upon the Office of the President is coming from loyal Democrats. Using the power of the Executive Order that he just signed, the President now has the power to label any loyal Democrat a traitor and a terrorist and "confine" him in order to "halt" his upcoming activities against the President. The words within the quotation marks are the exact words taken from Executive Order 13010. RMNews has reported that Chicago is run by the Rothschild family. In that issue, Bill Clinton's illegitimate Rockefeller roots were detailed. The deadly feud between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds was also described. Bill Clinton, the politician, was created by his maternal grandfather, Winthrop Rockefeller, a former governor of Arkansas. He was promoted and supported by the Rockefellers. But even the Rockefellers have seen the writing on the wall. Bill Clinton is a disaster for America. Four more years of Clinton and his wife could destroy the Rockefeller base in America. It could bring down the illegal Federal Reserve, abolish the IRS and create full-scale warfare in the streets of America. While limited riots and wars are always good for business, the type of war that a continued Clinton presidency could bring will totally devastate and destroy the Rockefeller family, as well as all other wealthy Americans. In other words, America would be leveled and possibly conquered by an outside power. If this outside power is backed by the blood enemy of the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, there is little doubt that any of the vast Rockefeller fortune would be spared. More than likely it would all be nationalized for the benefit of the state. Sensing the danger to themselves by their illegitimate creation, the Rockefellers have seen fit to demand that Bill Clinton remove himself from the office. If he chooses to fight them, he will have the support of their enemies, the Rothschilds. Could that be the real reason that the Democratic convention is being held in Chicago this year? Is the Chicago Red Squad owned outright by the Rothschilds? Will the Gang of 10 find themselves "confined," i.e., detained for questioning for the duration of the Democratic Convention? RMNews Agency. 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