December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PBS show
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:26 AM 6/13/96 +0000, Brad Shantz wrote: >Since I live 10 blocks away from the main MS Campus, I hear >everything there is to hear about Bill Gates. So, it was really >unnecessary for me to watch the hour and a hlaf devoted strictly to >who Bill stole what from. **GRIN** I only watched a few minutes of the show. Did they mention that Microsoft actually bought the MSDOS operating system from Seattle Computer products? Also, in about January of 1976, I attended a meeting at a hotel near Kansas City International airport, run by MITS (makers of Altair) showing off their computer. (They drove a van around the country and demo'd the computer to throngs of...oh...hundreds of people. At the time, I had followed the budding microcomputer hobby only a little. I specifically recall being told at the show of complaints by a company called "Microsoft" that its "4K Basic" was being bootlegged. (Note to the newbies: The term "4K Basic" meant a Basic interpreter that fit in a main memory space of 0.004 megabytes.) I soon learned that they were selling it for about $500, or about 12 cents per executable byte. >> Those were exciting times. But, having worked at Intel during those heady >> days, and being pretty active these days on the Net, I'd have to say the >> Web, Net, Java, etc. are *just as exciting* (if not more so) than those >> days. So, the best years are probably yet to come. > >Having started my "prefessional" Internet career at SPRY in 1993, I >agree that the best of the Internet is yet to come. Bill Gates said >in the show last night that it is almost impossible to judge where >the market will be in a year because things are changing so fast. >Right now everything is a buzzword. JAVA, etc...they are all infant >technologies that if marketed correctly could lead to the next >revolution. Literally! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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17 Dec '03

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Re: PBS show
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:23 PM 6/13/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >At 09:35 AM 6/13/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>But the Apple II WAS a toy! Non-detached keyboard, poor placement of reset >>key, upper-case only, 40-character wide display, odd microprocessor, VERY >>SMALL capacity floppies (which were very slow as well), as well as a hostile >>legal situation regarding the building of clones. Hell, they even objected >>to other companies building boards which plugged into the bus! > > >I was not a toy it was what started the PC revolution Grandly ignoring the Altair, the TRS-80 Model I, the IMSAI, et al. Even Jolt! Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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T & A
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From 6-14-96 Financial Times editorial supporting the CDA decision and challenge to authoritarian regimes using moral righteousness to suppress free speech: "Freedom to titillate is a small price to pay for freedom to argue." A T&A motto for cypherpunks?

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Inside Currents
by newslett＠compcurr.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: PBS show
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:47 PM 6/13/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >At 11:23 PM 6/13/96 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: >>At 09:35 AM 6/13/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: > >>>But the Apple II WAS a toy! Non-detached keyboard, poor placement of reset >>>key, upper-case only, 40-character wide display, odd microprocessor, VERY >>>SMALL capacity floppies (which were very slow as well), as well as a hostile >>>legal situation regarding the building of clones. Hell, they even objected >>>to other companies building boards which plugged into the bus! >> >> >>I was not a toy it was what started the PC revolution > >Grandly ignoring the Altair, the TRS-80 Model I, the IMSAI, et al. Even Jolt! > > >Jim Bell >jimbell(a)pacifier.com > > It was the first BIG product, sorry my bad. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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CALL FOR PAPERS
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:39:13 -0700 From: Taher Elgamal <elgamal(a)netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 To: ipsec(a)TIS.COM, ietf-pkix(a)tandem.com Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS Sender: ipsec-approval(a)neptune.tis.com Precedence: bulk CALL FOR PAPERS Multimedia Data Security Part of IS&T/SPIE's 1997 Symposium on Electronic Imaging: Science & Technology 8-14 February 1997 San Jose Convention Center San Jose, California USA Conference Chair: Taher Elgamal, Netscape Communications The growth of the use of public networks as the platform for multimedia applications in the past year has made it important to devise mechanisms for ensuring proper use of intellectual property, and increased the importance of employing security mechanisms for video and audio data. This conference will serve as a forum for the exchange of ideas in the areas of security systems and mechanisms especially in applications that handle large data volumes. Papers are solicited in all areas of security systems and algorithms including but not limited to: * security systems for imaging applications * security systems for real-time video applications * performance studies and comparisons for securing image data * watermarking and detection of fraudulent copying of intellectual property * metering schemes for intellectual property usage * audio and video encryption mechanisms * key management and security protocols for broadcast applications * payment systems for online multimedia applications * content protection mechanisms for online multimedia distribution. This conference is just one of nearly 30 conferences to be held at the EI'97 symposium. And EI'97 is one of 4 collocated symposia (Electronic Imaging, Biomedical Optics, Lasers and Applications, and Optoelectronics). Watch SPIE's web site for the entire Photonics West Call for Papers (late May-early June): http://www.spie.org/web/meetings/meetings_home.html For a printed call for papers or other information: E-mail: pw97(a)spie.org Fax: 360/647-1445 Phone: 360/676-3290 DEADLINES Paper Abstracts (for review) Due from Authors: 15 July 1996 Camera-Ready Abstracts (from accepted authors) Due: 18 November 1996 Manuscripts Due from all Authors: 13 January 1997 GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING AN ABSTRACT Send a 500 word abstract of your paper, by 15 July, in ONE of the following ways: >>electronic mail in ASCII format (NOT encoded) to abstracts(a)spie.org >>The SUBJECT line must include: EI97 (Elgamal) (Send one submission per email message.) Note: There will also be available an interactive abstract submission form on the web site. >>mail (please mail 4 hard copies) to: IS&T/SPIE Electronic Imaging '97 SPIE, P.O. Box 10, Bellingham, WA 98227-0010 Shipping Address: 1000 20th Street, Bellingham, WA 98225 Telephone: 360/676-3290 >>fax to SPIE at 360/647-1445 (Please send one submission per fax.) Be sure each abstract includes the following: 1. CONFERENCE CHAIR and CONFERENCE TITLE (submit to ONLY ONE conference) to which the abstract is submitted 2. AUTHOR LISTING (List principal author first) for each author: full name [first(given) last(family] and affiliation, mailing address, phone/fax numbers, email 3. ABSTRACT/PAPER TITLE 4. ABSTRACT TEXT: 500 words typed on white paper 5. KEYWORDS: maximum of 5 keywords 6. BRIEF BIOGRAPHY of the principal author: 50-100 words -- Taher Elgamal elgamal(a)netscape.com Chief Scientist, Netscape Communications (T) 415 937 2898, (F) 415 428 4054 --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "If they could 'just pass a few more laws', we would all be criminals." --Vinnie Moscaritolo The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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Remailer Operator Liability?
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that the CDA decision has been made, I was wondering how this would affect the liability status of the various remailer operators? In the past several remailers have opted to discontinue service due to legal/political pressure. Will this CDA decision help to decrease remailer operator liability? John Perry - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers.

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[noise] (was Re: PBS show)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

at Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:30:44 -0800 jim bell <jimbell(a)pacifier.com> may have written... >Brain-dead segmented architecture, 64k per segment limitation code segments, ever hear of code segments? Data segments maybe? Ever actually do any 8086 assembler? You would have liked them. In fact, even the MAC's O/S had them built in as I recall, just not a hardware limitation with the 68000. A good programmer was not limited by these. >1-megabyte memory limitation. The only thing that made it OK, I concede here... But if you actually write code instead of pasting code together, 1MB is plenty of RAM with this processor. What was brain dead was the fact that IBM in it's infinite wisdom "stole" near half of that for it's poor hardware designs (640k-1MB range). flames > /dev/nul --- Joseph L. (Joe) Moll, Greenville, SC USA mailto:oolid@acqic.org ---

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Re: PBS show
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:51 PM 6/14/96, Josh Sled wrote: >On Thu, 13 Jun 96 23:23 EDT, Blake Wehlage wrote: > >>Mac rule they have an awesome GUI (graphical user interface), easy of use it >>way up there and they have bitchin' software. >> >>I know i will regret saying this but: >> >>The mac OS is 3 times better than Windows '95 > >Though I agree with you, and I think OS/2's WorkPlace Shell and >Presentation Manager is about 10 times better than MacOS, this isn't >the place for GUI or OS holy wars... > >ObCrypto: Incorporating crpyto into a GUI : strong crypto (RSA, 3DES) >represented as strong locking devices (safe, vault, etc), weak crypto >represented as weak devices (padlock, chain-link)... what do you think? > >Joshy > > > > Oh my God someone agrees with me I see the light at the end of the tunnel, in this window covered world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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