December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Does information want to be free?
by Joseph M. Reagle Jr. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:41 PM 6/14/96 -0400, Declan B. McCullagh wrote: >I confess I was amused by how he described >those Internet anarchists who delighted in publicizing books that should >in fact be restricted. I am amused (though I am not taking sides) by the general lack of attention or rhetoric that "crypto-anarchists"/"crypherpunks"/whatever, otherwise privacy respecting people, usually espouse. If someone found out all the medical information of cypherpunks list members and distributed about the Net, how would people feel? (This is a rhetorical question, and I am familiar and agree with some of the arguments regarding public interest, public figures, copyright isn't a privacy protecting mechanism, yada yada yada. Just something to think about, what if large corporations, public interest groups, lobbeys, or governments can use this as a precedent against "us".) _______________________ Regards, Democracy is where you can say what you think even if you don't think. -? Joseph Reagle http://rpcp.mit.edu/~reagle/home.html reagle(a)mit.edu E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E

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The Molson Great Web Anonymizer
by Damien Lucifer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Actually, they call it the Molson Web Canadianizer, but it looks like an anonymizer to me. You give it a URL and the Canadianizer grabs the URL and adds some funny canadian modifications to the page, and sends it back to you. It changes all the links to link through the canadianizer, also, which is convenient. This page originally allowed you to specify a url, but now it seems they only allow you to click and grab a random page. Specifying the address to connect to in your browser will solve this though.. Heres the URL: http://www.molson.com/cgi-bin/cize?url=http://www.your.site.com/the/url

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Java
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Since I am new here, and its probably been asked one billion times... .. I've only heard a tiny bit about a problem that existed with security and Java about 6 months ago.... What was it?

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whitehouse queries files on political enemies
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

what goes around comes around.. this reminds me of the old stories of Nixon and the various NSA domestic programs mentioned by Bamford ("Puzzle Palace") - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:23:03 -0700 (MST) To: fsnw-l(a)freespeechnews.com From: Free Speech <ron(a)grapevinenews.com> Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Files White House Got >From POLITICSnow I just picked up the following Associated Press story, dated June 7, 1996: "The Clinton White House acknowledged Friday it sought and received more than 300 FBI files, including those of House Speaker Newt Gingrich's press secretary, former Bush chief of staff James A. Baker III and other prominent Republicans." - - -- Associated Press=20 Also, in POLITICSnow is another press story which states, "Blankley, Baker, Fitzwater Among 330 FBI Files White House Got". The following is from that story: Friday, June 7, 1996=20 =A9 The Associated Press=20 "WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton White House acknowledged Friday it sought and received more than 300 FBI files, including those of House Speaker Newt Gingrich's press secretary, former Bush chief of staff James A. Baker III and other prominent Republicans.=20 Republicans immediately denounced the White House, saying President Clinton's aides misused the FBI to get information on political enemies. A top GOP leader suggested hearings were in order.=20 White House spokesman Mark Fabiani called it "an innocent bureaucratic mistake" and said there was no indication anyone reviewed the FBI background material.=20 But among the unanswered questions were who at the White House knew the files had been gathered and why they were kept at the White House rather than returned to the FBI after the error was discovered by a low-level White House employee sometime early in 1994.=20 The files - some 330 in all, almost all of them former employees of Republican administrations - were stored in the White House security office's vault in late 1993 and early 1994, the White House said." My comments: I have heard posters say, "So what, I'm alive. I have a job. Why should I care about this Whitwater stuff?" I, myself, have defended President Clinton in POLITICSnow when they were known as PoliticsUSA. I have held firm that there is no evidence against the Clinton's. This still holds true, in my opinion, with Ron Brown, Vince Foster, etc. I stated that Travelgate, Whitewatergate, Troopergate, etc. were much to do about nothing. Maybe they are in themselves. Although, I am on the verge of making a public apology in POLITICSnow based upon the evidence that is beginning to come forth. For anyone who counts himself a liberal, a basic premise is to have the government out of our personal business unless there is an absolute need for it. What apparently has happened is that the Whitehouse, for purely political reasons, obtained 330 FBI files almost all of them former employees of Republican administrators. This violates, in my opinion, the basic principles of liberalism. I will answer any posts in this news forum by anyone who terms himself a liberal and at the same time defends, what I consider, Nazi behavior. I want to add that I have the highest respect for the FBI and all the other Intelligence Services of the United States. The buck stops somewhere, and it is not with the FBI. Best regards, Bob Drake snoball(a)mail.idt.net - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: Snake Oil on the Water...
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 16 Jun 96 at 11:19, Alan Olsen wrote: > I recieved this on another list. The snake oil is starting to flow pretty > heavy. I expect it to get worse... > >Subject: Windows 3.x or Win95 FREEWARE Mail/Encryption Program > >X-UIDL: 788ef8d7083cb4f8e94b2c20183773b5 [..] > >At the following two sites, you may download the FREEWARE Pegasus Mail > >program version 2.3.3 16 bit for windows 3.x or a version for WIN95. The > >unique thing about it, besides its simplicity and that it's a great mail > >program better than Eudora, it has a built in encryption program that is as Actually, it is much better than Eudora and has plug-ins for encryption. The native encryption sucks, and the author warns against it (it's there as a demo of the crypto API!). There *is* a PGP-plugin (w/source) that uses PGP to encrypt or decrypt mail and add keys. The last version I saw had shitty key management... if you're emailing somebody at an address different from the key-id, it didn't prompt you for another key (and Pegasus 2.2 sent it out in cleartext!). I don't like the add on much, but many others do, aware of that flaw and some others. Seems like the person who wrote that message doesn't know what he's talking about. There's a difference between snake oil and a user who doesn't understand a product. Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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[noise] Re: SM3 ?'s (fwd)
by Damien Lucifer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:09:45 -0400, eron(a)in-sync.com (Eron Cohen) wrote: Don C. Jenkins wrote: > 3) Now that I am almost convinced that SM3 is the software I wish to > purchase - I was wondering if there is a way to make it automaticley edit > out irritating clients from my schedule? Or insert an extra million in my > bank account? > Yes. We are planning to ship this effect with 3.5 version of Razor next month. Not only does it remove the clients from your schedule but from your entire life using an advanced form of pattern recognition. We need to get this approved by the bureau of tobacco and firearms before we are allowed to start shipping it though, because in some places its considered a munition. Once approved we hope we can open our market to annoyed people in other fields too.

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Re: Snake Oil on the Water...
by Rich Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:03 PM 6/16/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Rich Burroughs wrote: > >AFAIK, "The Pegasus Team" is still one person, and he's not an idiot. The >person who sent the message was some random idiot, not a member of "The >Pegasus Team." Just thought that should be straightened out lest any >unwarranted ill will be left floating around... Yes, you're absolutely right, and I owe the Pegasus author a big apology for assuming that this guy who thinks there's a 40 bit domestic version of PGP had anything to do with Pegasus. I really misspoke, and I apologize. BTW, I've heard that Pmail is progressing quite well. Rich ______________________________________________________________________ Rich Burroughs richieb(a)teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~richieb See my Blue Ribbon Page at http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/blueribbon U.S. State Censorship Page at - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/state New EF zine "cause for alarm" - http://www.teleport.com/~richieb/cause

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Re: Snake Oil on the Water...
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: richieb(a)teleport.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, alano(a)teleport.com Date: Sun Jun 16 22:36:53 1996 Now if we could get John to get it to work with the 32-bit version it would be even better. Lou Z. > John's program is available at: > http://www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/winpmail.html > > I really think the Pegasus team would do better to mention > that John's program is available, rather than try to steer > people away from PGP. PGP JN makes using the basic email > features of PGP more streamlined than most other mail > packages I've used (except Private Idaho, which is not a > full-fledged email package). I think it would be better to > mention that both options exist, rather than seeking to > convert the masses away from PGP, which is unlikely to > succeed anyway, IMHO. Lou Zirko (502)383-2175 Zystems lzirko(a)c2.org "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQEVAwUBMcTTBstPRTNbb5z9AQEWpAgAoNBF5M+xyRPRAQjdBR8NpMgwEsb2lROj Now8Ku1ovNvTDc+Y7ZJ8InN1pyM53SA72LIjXFX5Tjughbkkh+96nXCsdEvStBO2 im4rIA+cv2QmcdhGVScgokUkY5BRiNnCc92bH+zOxmQMx/r7Bx8779phChQebF6P 01GP94Vlwh8lVoM7T4LCfAto5tsgMQVIwbOoYqkeDU1SpSQvz030XpQqaN94oCTh le7foWIWMJuAD26zetsbWgeEfZpIL/9M4e1dfDbcSJsBBN3Wwzs2XxKYqgbsz7ob 18+4toNNblt6WcPnhvbFzSgf3v0sYUAEcqawg/7QJiCBjNGncBwjJw== =nVgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Snake Oil on the Water...
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:27 PM 6/16/96 -0700, Rich Burroughs wrote: >For those people who want to use PGP with Pegasus, there's a >nice little plug-in for Pegasus called PGP JN, by John Navas, >which allows you to choose to encrypt with PGP (you need to >have a copy) instead of the Pmail crypto. It has a few small >drawbacks, IMHO, but I found it much easier to use than PGP >shell interfaces that require cutting text to the clipboard >first. It is very nice with one major drawback. It does not support conventional cryptography with PGP. This means that it is absolutly useless for use with nyms. (Which is one of my main uses for PGP in the first place.) Other than that... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Re: Snake Oil on the Water...
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:47 PM 6/16/96 +0000, Deranged Mutant wrote: >Actually, it is much better than Eudora and has plug-ins for >encryption. The native encryption sucks, and the author warns >against it (it's there as a demo of the crypto API!). I found this part out later. My mistake for not checking the program docs. [snip] >Seems like the person who wrote that message doesn't know what he's >talking about. That is very true. He is clueless and unrepentantly so. His private e-mail to me indicates it in spades. (As well as being rude and insulting for even challenging his claims about the program.) >There's a difference between snake oil and a user who doesn't >understand a product. True. I was not aware that the author of the program had warned against using it as well. Evidently this guy did not read that part as well... --- |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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