December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

It tolls for thee
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:29 AM 6/7/96, jim bell wrote: >Even so, given how much noise we've been hearing out of DC on the subject >of the Internet, digital cash, and good encryption, I'd say SOMEBODY is >getting a bit worried. I haven't exactly been keeping this stuff a secret: >What do you think their reaction has been, so far? When those >government-types start considering various scary scenarios, what do you >think they are imagining? I don't think any significant amount of the current stuff coming out of Washington has anything to do with my words, your words, or the words of anyone on this or any other forum I know about. Importantly, I'm including my own words, explicitly. Sorry to burst _our_ bubbles, but I just don't think the lawmakers and burrowcrats are being driven by loose talk by us. Rather, the reasons for their actions and hyperbole about the Net, the Web, online porn, money laundering, the "information highway," and all that trendy stuff is because they can see many of the same trends we see. While I have a certain amount of pride that my single-page "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto" essentially nailed a bunch of trends which have become obvious to all in the 8 years after I issued it, I don't for a picosecond think anything I wrote then or since has had any significant effect on proposed leglislation. While some of our writings and talk may have inspired "sound bites" in their own reports, the concerns governments have about strong cryptography, transparent borders, alternative forms of money, data havens, etc., are easy to understand. >Not quite yet, anyway. I'm very disappointed to have waited over a year for >some slick lawyer to show me how I'd be violating some law or another to do so. This is factually incorrect. I recall at least one law professor and at least one assistant DA publically commenting on the legal implications of your actual deployment of AP (as opposed to merely speculating about such things, which all agree is protected speech). And this was soon after your initial flurry of posts describing your "wonderful idea." --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:05 AM 6/7/96 -0000, nelson(a)crynwr.com wrote: >jim bell writes: > > > My impression is that it is frequently the pacifist-types who get us into > > war, because they start the process out by tolerating actions by others that > > turn into more serious actions, etc. You know, the appeasers. Are you an > > appeaser? > >A quote from Donald Wetzel's book Pacifist: > >The pacifist is often asked what he would do in the event the United >States were to be conquered by a hostile power. The assumption on the >part of the questioner is almost always that we would simply assume >the proper position in which best to have our asses kicked. I suggest >that anyone who believes that such would be the pacifist response to >the imposition in America of an oppressive, authoritarian >rule--foreign or domestic--should consult the prison authorities that >were in power when America's prisons were host to some six thousand >pacifists. I am sure it will be found that we have not been >forgotten. I propose that there has ALREADY been "the imposition in America of an oppressive, authoritarian rule." What are the pacifists doing now? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
by attila 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jim bell writes: > My impression is that it is frequently the pacifist-types who get us into > war, because they start the process out by tolerating actions by others that > turn into more serious actions, etc. You know, the appeasers. > true, too true. unfortunately, the point is corrrect: the pacifist do tolerate actions that others would not thereby encouraging further aggression. after the pacifists have been attacked, they can be particularly violent --and incarcertated, they are defiant. Or, as I prefer to put it: there is nothing worse than a liberal whose ass has been bit. -- Hackers never stop hacking, they just get caught

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Re: WWW servers.
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Black Unicorn: >> Does there currently exist a system which permits webservers to restrict >> access to clients who have a given certification? Sameer: > Yup. .... > =) Stronghold: The Apache-SSL-US, coupled with XCert >Sentry. What else? Bill Stewart: >Of course, there's a simpler approach; restrict access to people >who have logins and passwords, and only give those to people >who have the certification... But of course, cleartext passwords have their own problems. You really need to make use of the fact that there is a computer at both ends so you are protected from replay attacks. With that caveat, passwords work fine (except for the difficulty of remembering a bunch of them vs. the insecurity of using the same one multiple places or writing them down). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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mailing-list through a remailer
by SBinkley＠atitech.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know if the following would work: Having a mailing-list run through a remailer?? Someone would post (through an anon remailer) about a majordomo type list through an anonymous remailer (anon-penet.fi for example). You would send a message to 123456(a)anon-penet.fi, with a subscribe SECRET-LIST. Your message would be anonymous to the list, as the server would be to you. The server would then treat your return address through the remailer as your address, and you would post to the anonymous account for the server. It would be double blind, and difficult to find out who ran the list. If you chained the remailers, it would be even more difficult. Can this be done?? Has this been tried??

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No Subject
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C'punks, At 08:29 AM 6/7/96 -0700, you wrote, re: using ATM machines instead of couriers: >Sounds like you are suffering caffeine withdrawal. Try >wondering again after you have had some coffee. Gosh, I don't even drink coffee and I think Duncan is absolutely right on point. Snide remarks notwithstanding, what substantive critique do you have of Duncan's remarks? S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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"EASYSAFE(R) VERSION 3.0
by caal＠hopf.dnai.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I thought this may be of interest to the list. >[PRNewswire:Computers-0605.14] 6/5/96 > > EASYSAFE(R) VERSION 3.0 FOR DOS, WINDOWS & WINDOWS 95 'FIRST > NOTEBOOK SECURITY PRODUCT' > > CHICAGO, June 5 /PRNewswire/ - EliaShim Safe Software, a leading > provider of network security products and anti-virus protection > systems, announced at Spring Comdex 96 the release of EasySafe, > version 3.0, the first security and encryption product designed > specifically for notebook computers. > > .. EasySafe provides bullet-proof protection that is easy to install. > .. EasySafe prevents unauthorized use or access through boot password > protection. > .. EasySafe prevents removal or transfer of information via full hard > disk encryption. > .. EasySafe provides keyboard locking after three incorrect password > attempts. > .. EasySafe provides screen blanking after a predetermined period of > inactivity. > .. EasySafe denies system level access to hard disk information. > .. EasySafe can be configured to disable LPT, COM, and Floppy ports. > > Upon boot-up, EasySafe asks the user for a password. A > correctly entered password grants the user access to the computer. > Encryption/decryption of data on the hard disk is dynamic and > completely transparent to the user. The system allows for three > password attempts before locking the computer, and only a cold-boot > reset is possible. After entering the correct password, the disk is > unencrypted dynamically, normal boot up takes place, and the user is > granted access to the system without disk access restrictions or > delay. > > EasySafe includes a DOS/Windows screen saving utility which > blanks the screen after a period of inactivity. The only way to re- > activate the computer is to enter the correct password. > > EasySafe offers two encryption methods. The first encrypts all > data on local hard drives. The second method encrypts boot sectors > and partitions. This prevents unauthorized users from booting from > the "A": drive and accessing the data on the hard disk. This > encryption scheme also protects against the use of disk editing > programs (such as Norton Utilities). Thus, valuable company secrets > remain hidden and secure. EasySafe can be configured to disable LPT, > COM, and Floppy ports to ensure that the information contained on > the hard drive cannot be transferred to another system for later > viewing. > > While annual purchases of notebook computers have increased > steadily, the number of notebooks reported stolen each year is much > more alarming. In 1995, 208,000 notebooks with a value of almost > $640 million were reported stolen by a Columbus, Ohio insurance > company that offers coverage for portable computers (Information > Week - May 6, 1996 issue). EasySafe is the perfect product for > those field professionals whose notebooks contain valuable, > confidential, company information and other sensitive data that is > hundreds of times more valuable than the cost of a notebook. > > Founded in 1983, EliaShim Safe Software has been providing PC > security solutions and anti-virus protection for corporate, > government, educational institutions, and program developers in both > domestic and international markets. Over four million computers are > protected worldwide. Product line includes: EasySafe, MasterSafe, > ViruSafe Gold, and ViruSafe LAN. > > -0- 6/5/96 > /CONTACT: Carl Frederick, Jr., Director of Marketing, EliaShim > Microcomputers, 800-477-5177, or at Spring Comdex 96, Booth . C5431, > 312- > 791-6708/ > > CO: EliaShim Microcomputers, Inc. > ST: Florida > IN: CPR > SU: PDT > >

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Internet solution for law enforcement
by caal＠hopf.dnai.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone seen this yet? Looks like it's two weeks old. Internet Police! >[BizWire] 5/20/96 > > (SUN/PSI-INTL)(SUNW) PSI International, Sun partner, unveils Java- > based Internet solution for law enforcement agencies; "Internet in > Blue" Police Internet/Intranet Application Suite Available in July > 1996 > > Business Editors/Computer Writers > > Highlights: > -- Internet in Blue, one of the first Java-based solutions aimed > at fighting crime, is being introduced by PSI International, a > strategic partner of Sun Microsystems Federal, and includes other > Sun products. > > -- Internet in Blue combines the power of Java and Netra servers > to enable law enforcement agencies and police departments to quickly > leverage the capabilities of the Internet and intranets. > > -- This solution is the latest evidence of Sun taking advantage > of the significant market opportunity for crime prevention > technology. Last year, Sun Federal announced a dedicated Criminal > Justice Operation, which is working with police departments and law > enforcement agencies around the world to help them use technology in > fighting crime. > > MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- May 20, 1996--One of > the first Sun(TM) Java(TM)-based solutions aimed at fighting crime > was introduced today by PSI International, a strategic partner of > Sun Microsystems Federal, a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > Called Internet in Blue(TM), the solution combines the power of > Sun's Java technology, its Netra(TM) Internet servers, its Java > WorkShop(TM) development tools, and PSI's relational database > software. This solution fully leverages the capabilities of the > Internet for the benefit of law enforcement agencies because of the > inclusion of Java, the revolutionary Internet platform from Sun that > makes possible fast, easy, operating-system-independent use of the > Internet. > > To be offered by PSI, Internet in Blue will enable police > departments and other law enforcement agencies to leverage the > latest Internet technology to fight crime and promote citizen > involvement and community-based policing. From a citizen's > perspective, having a local police force with an Internet presence > gives people the opportunity to report problems online and play a > more active role in fighting crime in their neighborhoods. > > Besides utilizing the Internet, the PSI solution also allows > local police to build an "intranet," which is a greatly enhanced > internal information network to handle departmental processes as > well as to speedily access any internal database of interest. > Examples of these databases include local crime data such as > patterns of crimes, gang affiliations, data on previous suspects and > arrests. Currently, many police departments must locate such data > via a paper trail, which is very inefficient. > > "Law enforcement agencies are quickly realizing the power of the > Internet and intranets as strategic tools in fighting crime," said > John Marselle, president of Sun Microsystems Federal. "The Internet > in Blue solution from PSI -- based on Sun technology -- takes > advantage of Java's security features, platform independence and > database access capabilities. It should make it much easier for > police departments and other criminal justice organizations to get > online and to leverage the capabilities of the network." > > With Java WorkShop, a visual development environment for Java > that can be included as part of the Internet in Blue solution, > police departments can design, test, deploy and maintain Internet > and intranet applications based on Java with speed and simplicity. > Java WorkShop runs on the Sun Solaris(TM) environment and Windows > 95/NT. Using Java, the PSIBase relational database management > system can access Web browsers across any hardware platform. > > "The Internet is the next frontier in the development of law > enforcement information systems," said Paul Wormeli, program > director for law enforcement at PSI. "Our Internet in Blue solution > will enable law enforcement agencies to quickly exploit the latest > technologies like Java." > > Internet in Blue includes the following: > > A starter kit with a Sun Netra Internet server and PSI software > and services needed to set up a site on the World Wide Web, as well > as technical assistance from PSI for developing content and training > for a Webmaster. > > A full set of applications to create a police intranet providing > secure internal access to selected crime information, standard > operating police procedures and other infrastructure services. > > An interactive, community-based communications medium to > facilitate crime reporting over the Internet and community-based > policing. > > Suggestions for services that law enforcement agencies can > develop in order to offset the cost of the Internet project, such as > providing online crime reports and accident report information to > authorized outside organizations including legal firms and insurance > companies. -0- > > The Internet in Blue product will be available in July, 1996. > Pricing will vary depending on customer needs. > > PSI International, Inc. has provided systems integration and > services for over 14 years to federal, state and local governments. > The company specializes in law enforcement and public safety > solutions, consulting services, and integration of software and > hardware. With a staff of over 250 professionals in the information > system and services industry, PSI has a team of people that have > both technical and industry knowledge of public safety and justice > applications, including computer aided dispatch, records and > investigative management, imaging, telecommunications, and mobile > computing. > > Sun Microsystems Federal, Inc., headquartered in Vienna, > Virginia, is a subsidiary of Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sun Federal's > charter is to develop, deliver and sustain markets for Sun products > in governments worldwide. > > With annual revenues of $6 billion, Sun Microsystems, Inc., > provides solutions that enable customers to build and maintain open > network computing environments. Widely recognized as a proponent of > open standards, the company is involved in the design, manufacture > and sale of products, technologies and services for commercial and > technical computing. Sun's SPARC(TM) workstations, multiprocessing > servers, SPARC microprocessors, Solaris(Tm) operating software and > ISO-certified service organization each rank No. 1 in the UNIX(TM) > industry. Founded in 1982, Sun is headquartered in Mountain View, > Calif., and employs more than 16,000 people worldwide. -0- > > Note to Editors: Sun, the Sun logo, Sun Microsystems, Java, Java > Workshop, Netra and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks > of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and in other > countries. All SPARC trademarks are used under license and are > trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC International, Inc. in > the United States and other countries. Products bearing SPARC > trademarks are based upon an architecture developed by Sun > Microsystems, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark in the United > States and other countries exclusively licensed through X/Open > Company, Ltd. > > Internet in Blue is a trademark of PSI, International and is > properly written in boldface italics, all lower case. > > Press announcements and other information about Sun Microsystems > are available on the Internet via the World Wide Web using a tool > such as Netscape or NCSA Mosaic. Type http://www.sun.com at the URL > prompt. > > --30--css/sf* > > CONTACT: Burson-Marsteller (for Sun) > Jane Rauckhorst, 212/614-4880 > or > PSI International > Martha Hill, 703/352-8700 > > KEYWORD: CALIFORNIA > INDUSTRY KEYWORD: COMPUTERS/ELECTRONICS COMED > INTERACTIVE/MULTIMEDIA/INTERNET PRODUCT GOVERNMENT > > REPEATS: New York 212-752-9600 or 800-221-2462; Boston 617-236-4266 > or 800-225-2030; SF 415-986-4422 or 800-227-0845; LA 310-820-9473 BW > URL: http://www.businesswire.com >

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Wasting time and bandwidth on Bell
by P.J. Ponder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Declan McCullagh wrote: >Excerpts from internet.cypherpunks: 6-Jun-96 Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS >by jim bell(a)pacifier.com >> Not quite yet, anyway. I'm very disappointed to have waited over a >>year for >> some slick lawyer to show me how I'd be violating some law or another >>to do so ... >A few observations: >1. Not many readers of cypherpunks are lawyers I've noticed quite a few, actually. I don't know how many are regular readers but there seems to be enough to maintain a steady undercurrent of legal thinking on the issues associated with digital commerce, some anonymity and First Amendment issues, a sprinkling of criminal law topics, and of course, banking, intellectual property, SEC, antitrust, general contract, and related commercial law. >2. Of the laywers who do read cypherpunks, many may not choose to spend >their time researching what laws AP may violate. Or they're not "slick" >lawyers; take your pick. Or they automatically delete any posts that come from or relate to the puerile bullshit Bell is infamous for, and choose not to get dragged into this type of time- and bandwidth- wasting garbage. Of which this post is just another, of course, but i get so damn sick and tired of the constant imposition of 'AP' and related nonsense on this list. Of late, the trolls seems to be particularly effective among people who should know better, and an aura of credence or relevance has developed around some of this crap. Can't we just ignore it, and move on? Maybe if we ignore him he'll go away. >3. Congress would have no problems passing a law outlawing AP, if one >does not exist already. > >-Declan I would be satisfied if they just outlawed e-mail about it.

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Re: Anonymous stock trades.
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hallam(a)Etna.ai.mit.edu writes: > >He's a Cato fellow. I don't think that implies anything more than > >he he gets some money from them. > > Nope, he is listed in "senior staff". He's listed in the staff section, but he's clearly labeled as a fellow. P.J. O'Rourke is also listed in the same column as a fellow. I suppose he's working at Cato full time and only moonlights at Rolling Stone. The fact that neither of them lives within striking distance of Cato headquarters (O'Rourke lives in New Hampshire) makes your claim ever more interesting. > I'm working on digital signature systems under a DARPA contract. We shall therefore have to declare you to be a U.S. Government employee. .pm

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