December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: plugging in
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:05 PM 6/11/96 -0500, Alex Strasheim wrote: >Doing tech support at my ISP has made me very skeptical of anything that >requires a plug in. Most people aren't willing or able to download and >install them. I have installed, RealAudio as have many other people. Likewise Streamworks. I agree with your general point about general plugins but plugins for specific purposes will be deployed (at least until Netscape includes the capabilities). DCF

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: HACKERPUNKS MAILING LIST
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 10.12 AM 6/11/96 -0400, SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N wrote: >I don't have a C2 account, and don't really want to pay for one. >I trust someone will put the hackerpunks archives on the web so >the rest of us can read them. C2 nym accounts are free. =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo o chiisaku dekimasu) -------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu For PGP key 0xD37692F9, finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or get from keyservers pub 1024/D37692F9 1995/07/01 David Rosoff <drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu> Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 I accept anonymous mail. If I didn't sign it, you don't know I wrote it. === "Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will / To strive, to seek, to find-- and not to yield." <---- "Ulysses", by Alfred, Lord Tennyson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMb4A5xguzHDTdpL5AQGxLQP/YXH9uWmXC2xK/Pr/c4kdyopE213bsQpL +T3RD2qSK+qO234fHL3nJmQVBTS5Eyyw4YtMEmnV87vclpWbP9WIr+7RDvYpr/aM 1/6QBEux3f/K6SaPD5iBHfuoc8XkriqhfXgiiUnVK4IxbhHaLatPpSeKLQmX0o2Q 3fVXFjWuEGs= =sSf7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Information Age Intelligence
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Foreign Policy, Summer 1996: "Information Age Intelligence." by Bruce D. Berkowitz, a former CIA analyst and staff member for the Senate Intelllgence Committee. Excerpts of 14-page essay: During most of this century, the intelligence community led the world in developing information technology. Intelligence organizations were deeply involved in the development of telegraph and telephone networks, modern computers, and space-based communications and surveillance systems. The intelligence community also established new forms of analysis and areas of expertise. Yet several signs suggest that the intelligence community is no longer the leader in the information world, and it may have fallen behind significantly in some respects. The underlying problem is that the intelligence community has failed to keep up with changes in how modern society uses information and how information technology develops in modern society. As a result, our model for intelligence is out-of-date. This reality is what current efforts at intelligence reform are failing to recognize. The intelligence community needs to move as fast as information businesses do to capture markets, but the traditional organization is not up to the task. Today's model for intelligence -- how it is organized and how it operates -- is an artifact from an earlier age. Even the name "Central Intelligence Agency" is reminiscent of the New Deal era, when large, powerful, national bureaucracies were the accepted way of getting things done efficiently. It makes less sense in a world moving toward fluid, distributed, networked information organizations. As the capabilities of the private sector improve, the intelligence community will need to move on to the next frontier of technology or expertise that the private sector has yet to fill. While one challenge for intelligence reform is to keep up with these changes, fundamentally the greater challenge will be to establish an organization that can adapt with the times. One reason why the intelligence community cannot deal effectively with the Information Revolution is that intelligence requirements and the intelligence community's comparative advantage are both fluid, but the traditional intelligence bureaucracy remains static. In addition, organizations responsible for developing and applying technology, such as the National Reconnaissance Office (NRC)) and the National Security Agency (NSA), have created organizational dogma, and dogma always resist change. Once such organizations carve out a place for themselves (and their technologies) in the budget, they can be difficult to dislodge. The fact that these organizations often operate at a classified level further insulates them. As a result, the intelligence community often locks into specific technologies, even when new and possibly better ideas have come along. http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~jya/fpintel.htm ----- Our Web site was hosed clean today, so this article may not survive. If not there, send us e-mail with the subject: FPI_ntl

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Re: Micropayments: myth?
by foodie＠localhost.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brian describes a UI metaphor for micropayments, with a gauge indicating the value of your micropayment purse and a cutoff for the maximum automatic per-unit payment: >Now, let's consider bridging this metaphor into the micropayments world. >Imagine that surfing the web is like driving a car - you'll dribble out >small amounts of money over a period of time, but as long as you watch >your speedometer (the rate at which you spend money) and the feul tank >levels (the amount of coinage in your wallet), you are in control of your >spending rates. Whether you approve every micropayment explicitly, or >you set a minimum level below which requests for payments are automagically >granted, is up to you. Me, I'd probably be alright with just about any >site I go to asking for less than $.02 for any action I take. Anything >above that, I want to be explicitly asked. My user interface has a gas >gauge and a speedometer in the upper-right-hand corner instead of a >throbbing "N". When my levels are low, I go visit my bank and "refill" >my wallet. Voila! That's fine so long as the majority of sites one visits all cost within, say, an order of magnitude or so. What happens if people skip around a lot? When I go from checking out Hagbard's Poetry Corner, which charges $.02 cents per page (and falls below the speedometer cutoff), and switch over to Belbo's Future's Tips Market, which charges a dollar a page, I'm going to get annoying alerts every click. If one allows customizing the cutoff for each page, the guage becomes meaningless (as much as if your car occasionally sucked half the gas tank at one stoplight). If you don't, it is annoying. Sure, $1.00 a page, perhaps, pushes the micropayment scale, but I'm sure there are plenty of folks who would set the cutoff in that range or higher. Perhaps a graphical relation-o-meter, comparing some user defined scale to the cost of the current page, so that users could get a relative feel for high rent districts (Web-rent control, anyone?), but I can see pitfalls to this appoach, too. I don't think this works unless the micropayments world standardizes on a very narrow price band, which isn't very likely, or people are found to stick pretty consistently to a given price when browsing, which I don't think is very likely either. >And yes, I am presuming a system involving transfers of digitally signed >tokens of some sort. I don't think this is a mistaken presumption. It strikes me as perhaps more useful for account-driven billing systems, where one has a contanst quanta of payment magnitude. -j -- The signal is the noise. ____________________________________________________________________ Jamie Lawrence mailto:jal@cyborganic.net mailto:foodie@netcom.com

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Re:Micropayments are Crap
by mccoy＠communities.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Stephan Vladimir Bugaj <stephan(a)studioarchetype.com> writes: > > Micropayment proponents are incredibly fond of the proposition that software > could be leased on a usage time basis from a centralized server, and people > could also rent time on the servers' CPUs. Sounds an awful lot like the > mainframe days to me. Well, at the risk of being branded a heretic, maybe the mainframe days were not as bad as you assume... Back in "the mainframe days" computers cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the best way to most efficiently use that resource was to tiemsharing. Currently I would guess that 2/3 of the possible CPU cycles in the world go unused, wasted by machines that are turned off sitting in someones den or running a screensaver in the cubicle of some drone in the marketting department. With micropayments one can purchase access to these cycles and put them to use, allowing the user to recover costs when they are not using their system and giving the user cheap access when needed to computing resources way beyond what they would be capable of purchasing themselves. > I see plenty of ways in which this benefits the vendor (greater control > over distribution, centrailzed revision/upgrade distribution, greater > profits over one-time sales, etc.), but no ways in which this benefits > the user. Especially the power user. Some advantages to the user: -Faster and more frequent upgrades and bug fixes. No need to wait for the CD or floppies to be shipped. -Better responsiveness from the vendor/distributor. Currently once you buy a program you are stuck with it, warts and all. A "test drive" is not an option, so vendors are led by their marketting droids. With online "rental" the user has the ability to try a program before plunking down their $69.95 and possibly ending up with an unusable collection of annoying bugs. This also means that they have the option of selecting a different program without risking paying the entire cost of a program they do not really want but which had good advertising. Software vendors will be forced to actually pay attention to the users _after_ the initial sale and will also be motivated to create and provide more customized niche programs so you end up with a better selection of software as well. -Access to programs which the user could not normally afford or would not use enough to justify the purchase price. I am not a chip designer and am not interested enough to drop $20K on a VHDL simulator and design synthesis program, but I would be willing to pay several dollars an hour to play around with one. > I'm certainly not going to rent time > on a compiler or image editing program every single time I want to do some > work. Then buy the program yourself, and then wait overnight for that ray tracing and rendering program to complete two frames of that animated logo for your kewl web page. No one is saying that everything wll go to micropayments, in some cases for software which is used constantly it does make more sense to buy the program outright but in most cases you end up using the other programs which clutter your hard disk a lot less than you think. By renting your non-essential programs you save money. > It took the industry long enough to get PCs and workstations to the speeds > they're at today so people could do their own work on their own machines to > go back to waiting in a queue for time on a centralized system so you can > have the honor of paying someone a lot of money to run your job. How did you make the leap from micropayments (remember that "micro" prefix) to paying someone a lot of money to run your job. With micropayments you can pay a lot of people a very small amount of money to run your job and get it done orders of magnitude faster than someone stuck with a lone PC. You also avoid getting caught up in the hardware game. Just a few years ago everyone was told they needed to upgrade their 386SX to a 486 or 486DX2 or they would be left behind, now everyone simple must have a Pentium, and tomorrow it will be the next chip du jour. By only requiring the hardware necessary for user interaction on the desktop one can get better economies of scale (hence the so-called "Network Computer") If you could get by with having a 486 on your desk running the presentation and interface level and then rented cycles on a huge cluster of pentium cycle servers to get real work done you would probably end up saving money in the long run, and would not need to run out to Fry's every year/month/week to upgrade your hardware with new pieces which would soon be obsolete. jim

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CDT Policy Post 2.24 - Join Sen. Burns TONIGHT (6/11), 10 EDT
by editor＠cdt.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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CDA decision TOMORROW 9 am! (fwd)
by David Lesher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The CDA deathwatch is almost over. The Philadelphia court will announce its decision tomorrow, 6/12, at 9 AM EST, according to a fax from the court. Check the usual web sites for more info and breaking news on the decision: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/ http://www.eff.org/ http://www.vtw.org/ http://www.aclu.org/ http://www.epic.org/ http://www.cdt.org/ The ACLU is holding a press conference in NYC at 11 am. The ALA/CIEC plaintiffs will be holding a press conference in Washington, DC at 12 noon. For the latest information, subscribe to the fight-censorship-announce mailing list by sending "subscribe fight-censorship-announce" to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu. -Declan // declan(a)eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan(a)well.com //

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CDA decision TOMORROW 9 am!
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The CDA deathwatch is almost over. The Philadelphia court will announce its decision tomorrow, 6/12, at 9 AM EST, according to a fax from the court. Check the usual web sites for more info and breaking news on the decision: http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/ http://www.eff.org/ http://www.vtw.org/ http://www.aclu.org/ http://www.epic.org/ http://www.cdt.org/ The ACLU is holding a press conference in NYC at 11 am. The ALA/CIEC plaintiffs will be holding a press conference in Washington, DC at 12 noon. For the latest information, subscribe to the fight-censorship-announce mailing list by sending "subscribe fight-censorship-announce" to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu. -Declan // declan(a)eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan(a)well.com //

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Re: Venture capital financing/partnering for unique website ideas/entrepreneurs
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:19 PM 6/11/96 -0400, Ventureweb(a)aol.com wrote: > Re: Venture Capital Funding/Venture Partnering For > Web Site Developers/Entrepreneurs > > Hello; > > My firm, DataMerge, Inc. is currently developing a program to >provide financial backing and strategic assistance for commercially >viable website development. It is my job to locate individuals with ideas >and/or plans for creating high profile, niche market websites that, with >our assistance, can be profitably brought to maket. Hmmmm... "High profile"? Check. "niche market"? Check. "profitable"? Check... Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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"Neil, the government wouldn't tap the phones of American Reporters"
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Neil, the government wouldn't tap the phones of American Reporters" - Hedrick Smith to his NYT colleague Neil Sheehan, while working on the Pentagon Papers project - he was incorrect, and his phones _were_ being tapped.... CSPAN-2 is doing a 25-year retrospective on the Pentagon Papers this week; Daniel Ellsberg, Hedrick Smith, and others were on tonight, with people from other sides on later this week. Cool show so far! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs # Dispel Authority!

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