December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

More on "Raised Awareness"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:30 AM 3/27/96, Rich Graves wrote: >At some point in this exercise, though, we might be "raising awareness" >among the wrong people, to cite Tim May. I wouldn't want NAFTA, the WTO, >and so on enforcing ITAR. I'm glad to see that some people are internalizing this point about how "raised awareness" almost always results in new legislation. And new legislation, even if seemingly well-intentioned, almost always extends the tendrils of government into what were once ignored or private areas. There are many examples outside of crypto. Health care reform was the latest case of "raised awareness." Pornography access on the Net was another. The systemic reasons for this are clear. "Leaving well enough alone" and "Don't make waves" are old aphorisms that capture this sentiment. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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RE: What backs up digital money?
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Hal So I view dcash as a circulating currency, where the act of transfer in some implementations requires some technical assistance from an agent of the bank able to make digital signatures on its behalf. It is more than simply a mechanism for transferring funds from one account to another (unless you think of government currency in those terms). I view it as possessing real value, as being a genuine asset in the same sense as other forms of cash. .................................................................................. Real money may need to be actually in existence somewhere in the form of metallic bars or coins, but I was thinking about how most of the time for me it is just a lot of abstract Money Mumbers: . I get automatic deposits of Money Numbers in my bank account; . I go to the ATM and enter a few Money Numbers and get some representative notes, as well as a slip of paper telling me how many Money Numbers I have left in my account; . I go to the store and use a card which debits my account with a certain quantity of Money Numbers; . I promise to work for a certain quantity of Money Numbers; . I request loans in terms of a certain quantity of Money Numbers, etc. Except for when I have metallic coins in my hand, t's mostly abstract and becoming more-so, so that at the accelerating speed of the circulation of Money Numbers, only the banks must be concerned over whether these are really attached to anything solid and physically meaningful. For me and others, it's based mostly on the supposition of value (itself an abstract concept which must be learned and understood in its relation to symbolism). .. Blanc

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Re: unsubscrive
by tbyfield＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

8:28 PM 3/27/96, Timothy C. May: > The penalty for not paying attention being continued receipt of 50 mail > messages a day! And either a practical reason for the many to learn English or for programmers to watch how English melts in the mouths of people not fluent in it: "describe" and "unsubscrive" being pretty predictable Latinate mutations. Ted

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Re: unsubscrive
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: tcmay(a)mail.got.net >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >From: tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) >Subject: Re: unsubscrive >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > >At 7:13 PM 3/27/96, Maurizio wrote: >>unsubscrive cypherpunks > >Ah, a new spelling to be added to the archives. So far, we've got: > >undescribe > >unscribe > >unsubbscribe > >The penalty for not paying attention being continued receipt of 50 mail >messages a day! > Well, at least this one is *vaguely* forgiveable - the 'b' and 'v' keys *are* next to each other on a keyboard.... Dave Merriman ------------------------------------------------------------- "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." P. J. O'Rourke (b. 1947), U.S. journalist. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://www.shellback.com/personal/merriman/index.htm

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Re: Test case for RSA t-shirts
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a certain amount of international arms dealing at the Palo Alto Quaker meeting this week. Aside from the folks with the anti-assault-rifle petition, there was one person with an RSA sweatshirt (the Joel Furr flavor) and a woman from Eastern Europe (Slovenia?) who was probably not an Official US Person :-) My general guess about reception you'll get in the airports is that nobody will notice. It's worked for me domestically, anyway. #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 pager 408-787-1281 1995: Chat rooms, espresso, and Linux 1996: Exon, melatonin, and Java.

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[NOISE] crypto in the Racing Form
by tbyfield＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vaguely apropos the "let's not raise their awareness" thread, a few weeks back I noticed in the Racing Form a full-page ad for a horse named "Cryptoclearance." It raced well enough, but its owners getting a lot more mileage out of studding it--"the 13th leading sire." Its offspring: Cryptogram, Code of Love, Crypto Lady, Denied Access, Cryptodynamite, and--I can't tell if my scrawl deceives me--Cryptomay. (If it does, my apologies.) So those who're arguing for keeping a low profile crypto-wise had better hope that these horses are losers and that its other offspring (Denied Access, Final Clearance, Pinpoint Control, Mt. Bueran, Clearance Code) are winners. If there's another Seabiscuit or Secratariat in that Crypto- lineage (which is pretty doubtful)... Ted

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PPV Descrambler
by firebrd123＠ns.interconnect.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been looking for a file on how to make PPV descramblers and havn't found any. Commercial descramblers cost around $200 base price. If anyone has a file on how to make them please e-mail me one. Thanks. captain_lee @mail.interconnect.net

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The Law Loft: Surviving the Biometric I.D. Card
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Though some will petulantly claim that this has "nothing to do with crypto," I think the report on legislation which may lead to new levels of national identification is very apropos to the themes of this list. A national ID card could be tied in to the CDA and other such legislation: the "Internet Driver's License" we are worried about. This would also facilitate the criminalization of anonymous remailers. (I noticed at a local night spot large posters announcing the city's "Zero Tolerance" policy for passing a drink to a minor. Imagine the same folks passing laws about the criminalization of giving access to a minor....) Here's the forwarded article: > Path: we.got.net!news.oz.net!newshub.internex.net!news.Stanford.EDU!agate!overload.lbl.gov!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!usenet > From: klynch(a)intrepid.net > Newsgroups: misc.survivalism > Subject: The Law Loft: Surviving the Biometric I.D. Card > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:34:25 GMT > Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. > Lines: 148 > Message-ID: <4ir7hj$391(a)nntp.texas.net> > NNTP-Posting-Host: klynch.intrepid.net > X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 > > -------------------------------- > Here is the latest Alert from The Law Loft. Sorry its > late. > > If you are benifitting by this information, please don't just > keep it to yourself - share it with someone immediately. And > perhaps you can Fax Suzanne and Pete a thank you and ask > them what you can do to help. > > This work is pretty lonely and grinding. And oh so few ever thank > you for it. Of course that's not why their doing it. > > Many of you could do the same thing I'm doing. You can listen to > 7.435 MHz at 8:00 pm EST and take notes from The Law Loft. You > can FAX them a request to send you information. You can then pass > it on to others. > > When you don't see anything from me out here, you can pitch in and do > it. This is late, because I had no other choice but to catch an early > train. > > Throw away the "boob" tube and stop wasting your precious little time > that we have left to learn and work together. Invest in a good > Short-Wave radio with a built in tape machine. I use the Radio Shack > DX-392 portable receiver. NO LICENSE REQUIRED TO LISTEN. > > Check out other fine alternative news programs on 5.065 between 6:00 > pm EST and 12:00 midnight week nights. > > Please help us - do your little part. > > For Freedom, > Kerry > http://www.intrepid.net/~klynch/uslaws.html > --------------------------------------------- > H.R. 2202 Immigration Bill > > Special Alert II > > March 19, 1996 [Please note this date when reading - Kerry] * * * * * > * * * > > H. RES. 384 bringing H.R. 2202 and 17 proposed amendments to the floor > passed today in the House. Debate on the bill and amendments > continues tomorrow. Vote on amendment number 4 is expected tomorrow: > > The picture in the House of Representatives grows darker. H.R. 384 > bringing H.R. 2202, the Immigration bill, to the floor for a vote > along with 17 proposed amendments passed easily by wide majority in > today's session. > > Work on amendments including Congressman McCullum's amendment no. 4 > will start up again tomorrow. We estimate that the vote on amendment > number 4 will occur about 3:00 pm EST. > > Both the House and Senate bills are intended to bring us some form of > universal biometric identifier i.d. card either in the form of a new > social security card or a passport linked to biometric identifier > birth certificates and drivers' licenses: > > The House bill, H.R. 2202, if passed will bring in the biometric > identifier slowly with greater subtlty than the Senate version. The > biometric identifier is clearly in the picture here. Here's why: > > 1) The report of the U.S. Commission on Immigration entitled U.S. > Immigration Policy: Restoring Credibility talks openly about the use > of biometric identifiers for driver's licenses on page 65. Key > language throughout the report dealing with fraudulent use of > identifying documents also leads to only one place - introduction of > the biometric identifier form of identification. > > 2) The NarcOfficer, official publication of international narcotics > enforcement officer association in its September/October 1995 issues > states point blank that a universal biometric identifier system is > intended for use by everyone on the planet. > > 3) The Senate bill formerly S. (unumbered) now split into S. 269 and > S. 1361 in sections 111-116 talks about birth certificates with > fingerprint or other biometric data'. The same section talks about > new driver's licenses with fingerprint or other item of biometric > data'. > > 4) The Hoke Amendment to H.R. 2202 added by the House Judiciary > Committee talks about a demonstration pilot project with a reliable, > easy to use, confirmation mechanism'. > > > 5) The McCullum amendment, no.4 on the calendar of amendments to H.R. > 2202 talks about creating an official document that offers the best > possible security against counterfeiting, forgery, alteration, and > misuse'. And provides for creating a new social security card that > would be as secure against fraudulent use as United States passport'. > Part of the catch here is which version of the passport? The Senate > bill provides for the creation of anew fraud resistant passport. > > The McCullum amendment would make the new technology binding on all > social security cards issued after January 1, 1999. Beginning on > January 1, 2006, all employers would be required to verify employment > eligibility with the new social security card. > > Any way you cut it, this is too much authority to invest in any > government! > > Our founding fathers knew that only way to be free and remain free is > to constrain the power of the government. As John Dickinson said in > 1768 in Letters from a Farmer in Pennsylvania: "For who are a free > people? Not those, over whom government is reasonably and equitably > exercised, but those, who live under a government so constitutionally > checked and controlled that proper provision is made against it being > otherwise exercised". > > Creation of a mandatory, universal biometric identifier identification > system lets the genie out of the bottle. It would gut the 4th > Amendment's right of provacy and let the government surveil and > control us instead of vice versa. > > What to do now: > > We need at least 100,000 phone calls and faxes in Washington by > tomorrow. We may not win in the House but we have to try. Remember > if we build up steam now in the House our chances will be better later > in the Senate. > > Contact your congressman tonight by fax (best) or tomorroww by phone > (good). Argue with him, politely. He might think that just because > amendment 4 says it won't be used as a universal identifier, that > amendment 4 and the bill are okay. Remind him what happened to the > social security card. It was supposed to be voluntary too in the > beginning. > > As time permits, contact as many congressmen as you can in California, > New Mexico, Arizona, Florida, and Illinois. These congressmen are > going to be under especially heavy pressure to pass the bill no matter > what it says. You can use the toll-free numbers for your call: (800) > 962-3524, (800) 972-3524, or (800) 872-8513. > > Tell them we want to keep the 4th Amendment to the Constitution and > the only way to do that is to kill the 4th amendment to the bill. > Tell them that we are not at all amused by the hidden joke of using an > amendment 4 to kill the 4th Amendment to our Constitution. No, no, no > to any version of the biometric identifier! Vote no to H.R. 2202! > > Suzanne Harris > The Law Loft > Los Angelos, CA > (818)-305-7613 > 7.435 MHz (Short-Wave) 8:00 pm EST Week nights.

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Re: Why Americans feel no compulsion to learn foreign languages
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:41 AM 3/28/96, Charles Bell wrote: >On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Timothy C. May wrote: >> >> There is not a single foreign language I can think of it that would help me >> in my goals or help anyone I know. This is the reality of a world dominated >> by English-speaking persons and in which all technical people learn >> English. >> > >I guess you don't know anyone who expects to do extensive business in >China during the 21st Century. Unpersuasive. And school systems are unpersuaded as well, as very few offer classes in Mandarin. A notoriously difficult language to learn, especially to write. (A friend of mine spent 8 years learning Japanese, a somewhat similar language, and made only moderate progress.) The "needed for business" is what sparked the mini-boomlet in Russian classes in the 70s, then the larger boomlet in Japanese classes in the 80s. Most of these lessons were wasted. In any case, the issue is not the classes taken by _some_ (the few percent who study Russian, Japanese, Mandarin, etc.), but the topic of this thread: "Why Americans feel no compulsion to learn foreign languages." Or do you think Mandarin should be taken by high school and college students so they can do business in China? Reality Check: I know the folks moving to the PRC to set up Intel's operations there. They are native speakers of Mandarin, of which there are already a vast number in U.S. electronics companies. The notion that Suzi T. Nelson should take Mandarin in high school to help prepare for the 21st century is absurd, and any guidance counselor who so advises her should be fired forthwith. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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unsubscrive
by Nibiru 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsubscrive cypherpunks ------------------------------------------------------------------- NIBIRU E-Mail : nibiru(a)columbus.co.za South-Africa --------------------------------------------------------------------

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