December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

"Neil, the government wouldn't tap the phones of American Reporters"
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Neil, the government wouldn't tap the phones of American Reporters" - Hedrick Smith to his NYT colleague Neil Sheehan, while working on the Pentagon Papers project - he was incorrect, and his phones _were_ being tapped.... CSPAN-2 is doing a 25-year retrospective on the Pentagon Papers this week; Daniel Ellsberg, Hedrick Smith, and others were on tonight, with people from other sides on later this week. Cool show so far! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # http://www.idiom.com/~wcs # Dispel Authority!

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Re: Slander of Catholic Church
by Eric Wilson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 AM 6/11/96 -0400, you wrote: > > Tim , > You should stick to your own religion and not criticize other >peoples. It is unforunate that the esteem that I once felt for you is >dwindling because of your anti-Mormon trash. Perhaps you do not realise >that some people take more than an academic interest in their religion >;this is unforunate . It is pitiful.You are becomeing the ugly >American that foreigners hate; always having an opinion about everything. > moroni > > Hmmm.... This brings up two questions: 1. If you stick to your own religion, aren't you kind of saying the others are bad (or don't work) anyway? Its hard to be more critical than the "I'm going to heaven and you're not, because you don't do this...." crowd. 2. Isn't hard NOT to have an opinion about something? Eric

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[MISC] Speaking of Wearables
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thought this might be of interest to some..... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Agre <pagre(a)weber.ucsd.edu> To: rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu Subject: Wearable computing conference August 19-21st [The world is so wonderfully strange.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, send an empty message to rre-help(a)weber.ucsd.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:50:09 -0400 From: Thad E Starner <testarne(a)tottenhamcourt.media.mit.edu> Subject: Wearable computing conference August 19-21st [...] Announcement/Call for Participation Workshop on Wearable Computer Systems Over the past few years, a new technology has been rapidly taking shape. It is the technology of wearable computer systems -- battery-operated computer systems worn on the user's body on a belt, backpack or vest, designed for mobile and predominantly hands-free operation, often incorporating head-mounted displays and speech input. Such systems are now being prototyped and investigated in the context of a wide variety of military, educational and industrial applications, including maintenance, training, and manufacturing. On August 19-21, Boeing will host an informal workshop on wearable computer technology, at the Boeing Customer Services Training Center in Renton, WA, a few miles east of Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. Our intent is to bring together vendors and potential vendors of these systems, researchers studying this technolgy, and key application customers for an open discussion of the future of wearable computer systems technology. The workshop's technical focus will be on the platforms, peripherals, software systems and applications associated with wearable computers. The format of the meeting will be as follows: o There will be several research presentations. Leading university, industrial, and government labs will discuss the research they are doing concerning the design and use of future wearable systems. o Booth space will be available for vendors to display and demonstrate their current products. o Selected government and industrial developers will describe the wearable computer applications they are planning or implementing, and the technical requirements implied by these applications. o Later in the meeting, participants will separate into breakout discussion groups of their choice to focus on issues of particular interest to them. Each breakout group will present a summary of their discussion and their recommendations to the main body of the workshop particpants. Breakout discussion topics may include - what standards need to be established? - what are the operating system and user interface software requirements for wearable computers? - what basic and applied research should the government fund in this area? A more detailed list of possible breakout discussion topics is included on the workshop registration form. Registrants are requested to select which topics they believe would be most worthwhile to address at the meeting. How to Apply to Participate Because of space limitations and the informal nature of this workshop, attendance will be limited to 150. Persons or groups wishing to attend should submit either a booth request or a research or application position paper, as described below. Academic, government, industrial or vendor researchers and government, industrial or vendor application developers are invited to submit position papers. As time permits, attendees will be asked to give brief talks about their research or development activities, based on their position papers. There may not be time for all attendees to speak to the group. In that case, the organizing committee will try to select a representative mix of research and application talks from among the position papers. Position papers and booth requests may be submitted by mail to Ms. Diane Rush Research and Technology Boeing Information and Support Services P.O. Box 3707, Mail Stop 7L-40 Seattle, WA 98124-2207 or by fax to 206-865-2965, or by Internet mail to diane.rush(a)iss-rt.boeing.com We strongly prefer submission via e-mail (ASCII text). For related questions, Diane can be reached by phone at 206-865-3211. Due Dates Booth space requests and workshop position papers are due by June 19. The committee's selections will be announced by July 12. Research Papers People engaged in research projects on wearable computer systems are invited to submit a two-page position paper, describing - the problems their research project is addressing - results they have achieved - the potential implications of their research on the future of this technology. Application Papers People conducting or commencing applications of wearable computers to military, industrial, medical or other domains are invited to submit two-page position papers describing their project, including - the application they are focused on - technical issues/problems they are encountering - requirements this application is placing on wearable computer technology. Vendor/Demo Booths Booth space in and near the workshop auditorium is limited. Displays should be designed to fit within an 8' by 6' area. Each display will have access to electrical outlets and will be provided, if they desire, with a 5' by 2' table. Booth requests will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis. Accomodations There are several hotels in Renton near the Boeing Customer Services Training building. Boeing buses will transport workshop attendees to and from the meeting at the beginning and end of each workshop day. The list of recommended hotels will be sent to attendees along with their selection notification. These hotels are reserving blocks of rooms for workshop attendees until July 18. Further Information About the Workshop Up-to-date workshop information will be maintained on the World-Wide Web, at the following address: http://wearables.www.media.mit.edu/projects/wearables/workshop/ Workshop Organizing Committee David Mizell Boeing Information and Support Services Thomas Caudell University of New Mexico Zary Segall University of Oregon Dan Siewiorek Carnegie Mellon University Thad Starner Massachusetts Institute of Technology

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[Tiny bit o noise] was Re: Terrorism Hysteria on the net
by Scott Schryvers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:12 PM 6/11/96 -0700, you wrote: > >snow wrote: > >>>Give me 15 well trained soldiers(near special forces level) and >>>I can do it in less than 60 days. Without touching a computer. > >Gary Howland <gary(a)systemics.com> adds: >>Give me 10 well trained biological warfare scientists and I'll do >>it in 30 ... > >>Anymore bids? :-) > >Yeah, Give me one really sick monkey ..... > >Brian One final bid... Give me one nanotech manufacturing facility and I can screw the Universe. :) PGP encrypted mail preferred. E-Mail me for my key. Scott J. Schryvers <schryver(a)radiks.net>

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Re: Slander of Catholic Church
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:40 PM 6/11/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: > the "net.war" declared by some on > the Church of Scientology is little different than having a similar war > against Catholics, Rosicrucians, Parsees, whatever. There is a very great difference: Scientology made war on the net. The Catholics, Rosicrucians, whatever, have not. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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No Subject
by Doug Holmberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please show me what this list is like, as I read in the message. dholmbrg(a)ncfcomm.com

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HotWired article on NEW bill to let FCC set net-stds, repeal CDA
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I spoke with Rep. Lofgren for a while today while I was writing this piece. I believe she's genuinely well-intentioned, but doesn't understand the issues. Visit HotWired's web site for the full report. -Declan --- http://www.hotwired.com/netizen/96/24/index2a.html The Hydra HotWired Special Report by Brock N. Meeks and Declan McCullagh Washington, DC, 11 June A bill that would attempt to "fix" the potential harm of the Communications Decency Act was dropped into the legislative boneyard late yesterday by freshman Representative Zoe Lofgren (D-California). The bill, dubbed the "Internet Freedom and Child Protection Act," provides neither. [...] Then there are her loopy additions. All Internet service providers, under government mandate, will become vendors of "blocking software" such as SurfWatch or Cyber Patrol. Lofgren's bill says that all new ISP customers must be provided, either free or at a fee, "screening software that is designed to permit the customer to limit access to material that is unsuitable for children." Of course, nowhere does she define what "unsuitable" means. However, such vagueness didn't stop Lofgren from proposing that the Federal Communications Commission move into the business of setting commercial software standards. Under this bill, the FCC is required to "prescribe minimum technical standards for screening software." [...] How does the FCC feel about a new proposed role as "software commissioner?" Frankly, they'd rather not be involved, according to Mark Corbitt, technology policy advisor to Chairman Reed Hundt.

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Correction to "Hackerpunks and C2"
by Ecafe Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a minor error in my earlier post. If someone were to notice a node on the internet receiving a bag with L(In)=L(Posted) *before* any other nodes on the internet, then one could guess that node had a user who was the owner of Hackerpunks.

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Hackerpunks and C2
by Ecafe Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There was a minor error in my earlier post. If someone were to notice a node on the internet receiving a bag with L(In)=L(Posted) *before* any other nodes on the internet, then one could guess that node had a user who was the owner of Hackerpunks.

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Encrypting forwarding service?
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How does this idea sound: a forwarding service/remailer that accepts encrypted and forwards it to someone else (specified in the message), encrypting the message to that person. Such a service can be set up at a site with *lots* of keys given to it. This way if one wants to spontaneously send a message to someone that she doesn't have a key for, she can use the service. (Perhaps the service would only accept or forward mail from/to people who submitted their keys, and possibly eca$h... it could also bounce messages back, re-encrypted, if there's a failure...) This could be used like anonymous remailers to foil traffic analysis, but also for people who, in certain situations, don't want/need anonymitiy with the person they are corresponding with, and who don't necessarily have keys handy. Comments? Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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