December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

I'm a little surprised
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A couple of days ago I posted that Headline News displayed a "factoid" that stated US residents value privacy over police ability to wiretap. With all the excitement the Time/CNN poll generated, I expected people on this would say hurray or something. Nobody said anything. What's the deal? Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Zimmerman in REASON
by walter kehowski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks and Extropians, There's an article "Code Blues" by Ronald Bailey in the recent REASON magazine [May 1994] on Phil Zimmerman, PGP, and Clipper. Walter A. Kehowski <wak(a)next1.math.pitt.edu> !FREE MINDS AND FREE MARKETS!

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Re: I'm a little surprised
by cfrye＠ciis.mitre.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Jim Miller writes: > > What's the deal? I guess all the publicity from the Time article, which cited the same survey as CNN (by Yanklevich Partners), deadened the response. I've begun to see reps of Yanklevich interviewed about public opinion on CNN quite a bit recently. -- Best regards, Curtis D. Frye cfrye(a)ciis.mitre.org or cfrye(a)mason1.gmu.edu "Here today, gone ?????^H^H^H^H^HFriday, April 8th"

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Re: I'm a little surprised
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Hughes writes: >It was the same poll Ah. That explains it. Tim May writes: > Second, the relevant quote is already being included in > some people's sig blocks. For example: > [..] > I think it's gotten a _lot_ of attention. You just must be > skipping a lot of messages (understandable, given the > volume). > Nope. I read almost all of them. I just didn't pay enough attention to the original article of the sig notice that the Time/CNN pool was conducted by Yankelovich Partners. When I saw the Factoid I thought it was a different poll. Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Re: I found this a very interesting use of anonymous mail. I am sending itnot to advertise the ad but the process
by pcw＠access.digex.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Yes, this is a very good example of _real_, legitimate uses of anonymity. Headhunters usually provide anonymity as one of their "features. Another good example are the personal ads. -Peter >Posted-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:23:26 -0400 >To: com-priv(a)psi.com >From: an32949(a)anon.penet.fi >X-Anonymously-To: com-priv(a)psi.com >Organization: Anonymous contact service >Reply-To: an32949(a)anon.penet.fi >Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 05:29:48 UTC >Subject: Well known net business seeks COO to grow (S.F. Bay Area) > >One of the few well established companies doing business on >the internet has decided it wishes to hire a chief operating >officer to manage the growth and operations of the company. > >The company is under $5 million in sales and the president >and founder wishes to focus his skills on the products while >a new skilled manager oversees company operations, finance, >sales, marketing, staffing and growth. > >The ideal candidate has solid experience in senior high-tech >growth company management and a desire to work building >an internet related business. Because the company is >still small, this is a hands-on management position. >Perhaps the ideal person is one who was planning to start >his or her own internet related company but might also be >excited to take the helm of an established one. > >If you're the right candidate you'll be offered a competitive >salary and health benefits, but most importantly an option >plan that will give you significant equity in the firm. > >You'll also need to live in, or wish to move to Silicon >Valley. > > Note > >This is an anonymous message, posted that way because we >don't wish to advertise our future executive hiring plans to the >world. We'll naturally reveal ourselves to any serious candidate. >This anon message server works on a double-blind principle. If you >reply to this message, We'll get it anonymously from you. >You'll be assigned an ID from the server. You can of course >give your real identity in the message. You can also take >the reply ID above and change the "an" to "na" (ie. >na32949(a)anon.penet.fi) to respond non-anonymously. >You can send an ASCII resume or find out contact info for >other resume media. >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. >Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, >and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. >Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Letter to the Government
by Jim Sewell - KD4CKQ 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI folks, I just sent this electronically and would like to urge you to express your feelings to the government officials as well. Don't copy my letter, express your own thoughts, but please do let them know how you feel about it even if you disagree with me :) Jim Sent electronically to: Representative Maria Cantwell, D-Washington - cantwell(a)eff.org Representative Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana - hamilton(a)eff.org Chair of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs The President of the United States - president(a)whitehouse.gov The Vice President of the United States - vice.president(a)whitehouse.gov The Cypherpunk mailing list of Internet - cypherpunks(a)toad.com Greetings, I wish to express my concerns about a current issue that has drawn a lot of attention from the computing world. The issue is that of encryption and the Clipper chip. We Americans pride ourselves with the freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution and it is freedom upon which this entire country is based. The Clipper chip threatens this freedom in an unprecedented way. I, as a professional computer programmer, am frightened by the desire of some of our Congress members to eliminate all forms of encryption except special government approved devices such as Clipper. Although I do not disapprove of the chip, nor of the ability to break it with the proper search warants, I do disapprove of what the success of this chip will bring. If Clipper succeeds then it will promote the wholesale outlawing of any encryption method. This will be undesirable for four reasons: 1. Right to privacy will be compromised if the citizens of the United States can not take steps to keep information such as financial transactions and personal data from prying eyes. 2. By requiring ONE and only one means of encryption you would be making it easier for those who wish to do harm to decypher our information. A cryptoanalyist would have a much easier time if he is guaranteed to know the form of encryption used. 3. The Clipper chip will do nothing to deter crime. A criminal smart enough to use encryption will be smart enough to use a safe code and not stupid enough to use the Clipper chip that he knows the governent can decode. The gangsters of the early to mid 20th century used nothing that could be called encryption and yet talked freely about taking packages for delivery and erasing people. The same would be true today. In fact, there are programs that exist TODAY and are readily available that will hide an encrypted message in an otherwise innocent picture. This method of hiding information is nearly undetectable. Considering this, criminals would still use cyphers if they so desired and only law-abiding citizens would be forced to make their private information vulnerable. 4. The only thing worse than having no means of privacy is to give the people a device they trust implicitly which is, in reality, not secure. Imagine a classified document from the millitary that is encrypted by the Clipper chip falling into the hands of an enemy who can decrypt it. In answer to those who say breaking the Clipper code is not practical I'd ask "Why was Clipper designed for non- classified information?" The answer is, of course, that Clipper is not secure enough to trust to protect our most sacred documents. I want to thank those of you who are working to block the "slaughter" of freedom and the elimination of American's rights to use encryption as they see fit and to implore anyone whose eyes fall upon this document to support it as well. Thank you for your time and consideration. Respectfully Jim Sewell 1209 Virginia Street Key West, Florida 33040 -- Tantalus Inc. Bringing people together Jim Sewell-KD4CKQ 2407 N. Roosevelt Blvd. to have a little fun. Internet: jims(a)mpgn.com Key West, FL 33041 CIS: 71061,1027 (305) 293-8100 "We keep coding and coding and coding..."

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Re: Dave Emory lecture Saturday, Bay Area
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those of you in the NYC area, we've been broadcasting Dave's tapes on WFMU (E. Orange, NJ, 91.1 FM) every Tuesday evening from 6-7 p.m. --Dave. > From: tcmay(a)netcom.com (Timothy C. May) > > Coincidentally, my favorite radio commentator, Dave Emory, will give a > 3-hour lecture on "Drugs and Fascism" (or a similar title) on Saturday > evening, 7-10 p.m., at Foothill Community College, Room F-12. Foothill > is in Los Altos Hills, visible from Highway 280. I believe the cost > will be $10. > > I've seen Dave speak twice before, on other topics. He can speak for > hours without notes and with captivating presentation. Whether you > agree with all his points or not, this three hours will surely be > enjoyable and may even change your outlook on things. > > Dave has a radio talk show on Sunday nights from 7-11 p.m., on KFJC, > 89.7. Some of this is rebroadcast Monday night, 9-10:30 on KKUP, 91.5. > I can't get the KFJC broadcast here in Santa Cruz, but I religiously > listen to the KKUP broadcast on Monday nights. > > I understand that radio stations around the country, at least a > handful of them, rebroadcast his tapes. > > His theme is the national security state, the role of the State in > suppressing freedom, the various "conspiracies" of Inslaw, Casolaro, > P-2, Gehlen, NSA, Contras, Cabazon, Nazis, etc. (If these words mean > something to you, then you know what Dave talks about. If these words > mean nothing to you, then you owe it to yourself to at least spend a > few hours listening.)

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"Open Sesame"--MacNeil-Lehrer Report on Clipper
by tcmay＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just finished watching--and videotaping--the 11.5 minute report by Philip Elmer-Dewitt on Clipper and related topics. The MacNeil-Lehrer Newshour should be in your area several more times today...around the dinner period, later, etc. Here in Bay Area, it comes on at 5, at 6, and as late as 10 and 11. "Check your local listings." An even-handed report, with brief statements from Marc Rotenberg, Lynn McNulty, Dave Banisar, Dorothy Denning, Whit Diffie, Jerry Berman, and a Dept. of Justice guy. "A bad idea" vs. ""Folly to let intercept capabilities be lost." Some nice aerial shots of Fort Meade, NSA. A demo of AT&T's SecurePhone 3600. A brief explanation of Clipper. I won't type in the quotes from the folks above. See the report for yourself. No major surprises. Except perhaps Marc Rotenberg's clear statement that after Clipper and Digital Telephony will come "restrictions on noncomplying cryptography." (Surprising in that it's a bold prediction. One we all have suspected is the case, but a public statement--which the report did not have a refutation of--all the same.) Tim-Bob says "Check it out!" -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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NSA security manual
by grady＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I got a call from SDO10 at (301) 688 6911 [NSA Security Duty Officer] this morning asking me where I got the following:

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RE: Pseudonyms and Reputations
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:22 4/7/94 -0700, Blanc Weber wrote: ... >Could I really allow myself to be so prejudiced by what a number of >others have determined is (or is not) a worthwhile contributor to a list? Only those others whose reputation for taste in giving endorsements you have come to trust. ...

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