December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

CLIPPER COMPROMIZED?
by mech＠io.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to a fax I received: _____ begin fwd ___________ CLIPPER COMPROMISED? "Security Insider Report," a monthly newsletter published in Seminole, Fla., has reported that government officials are seeking to determine whether former CIA employee and alleged traitor Aldrich Ames may have sold information to the Russians about the government's secret key-escrow technology used in Clipper Chip chipsets and Capstone Tessera cards. The secret key-escrow technology, dubbed Skipjack, can be used to encrypt network voice and data. _____ end _________________ This was faxed march 17, and consisted of part of a xeroxed page from a publication; unfortunately I cannot tell what the publication is. Some other headlines on it are "ARDIS aims to simplify radio-based messaging", "Vendors curb wireless hype", "AnyLAN, anytime, anywhere", and "Cheyenne prepares fix for ARCserv users woes". Next to the Cheyenne article is a round logo that says R.A.F. in large letters, and with the following cirling the logo: Network World's Reader A[missing] Force. "[missing]" means text that is cut off. Anyone know what publication this is, and which issue? The page number is 2. My best guess is it's Network World. Any corroborating stories?

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Illuminati Online infobot
by Matthew J Ghio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> E-mail auto-response message from info(a)io.com last updated: 94-02-16 > > ############################################################################## > # # > # ILLUMINATI ONLINE # > # # > ############################################################################## > > Thanks for your interest in Illuminati Online! If you have any specific > questions that are not answered here, send mail to admin(a)io.com or voice at > (512) 447-7866 for a response from a live human being. I keep getting copies of this when I didn't request it. The mails seem to be coming in response to posts made to cypherpunks. Did someone subscribe info(a)io.com to the list? Methinks someone here has a very bizarre sense of humor... :) ...wandering off to check to be sure mg5n+remailers isn't subscribed to the list...

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Re: Illuminati Online infobot
by gtoal＠an-teallach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think the info stuff is from cman(a)caffeine.io.org, who recently resigned from SJG and I suspect has put that on his personal mailbox so that people mailing him about SJG business know where to go. G

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Re: spyproofing your house/work building
by jazz＠hal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Drapes so the lip readers can't see you. Make sure the drapes block IR. There are instances of even local police forces flooding the front of a house with IR light, and viewing the activities inside with IR viewers -- all of this through closed drapes. Or you could just put a nice incandescent light fixture between you and the drapes; nice IR output from those bulbs. Halogen fixtures ought to work also, but fluorescent bulbs don't produce enough IR. More importantly: attach a contact-speaker to each pane of glass, and feed Top 40 radio to it. There have been reported cases of spy types bouncing laser beams off windows and using the reflected beams to reproduce the vibrations produced in the glass by reflected sound; in other words, the window panes are large membranes which vibrate in sync with the sound that hits them, so you want to override those vibrations with something else. This reeks of paranoia, eh? Jazz

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Re: spyproofing your house/work building
by rarachel＠prism.poly.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<<Except that they would go off whenever the sun was up, or whenever a car with its headlights on drives up.>> So is there a way to detect the specific IR that the bad guys use?

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Re: Denning Presentation and Q&A at George Mason University
by cfrye＠mason1.gmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brad attended the DC cypherpunks meeting this past Saturday and showed part of Denning's lecture before we really got rolling. With as many hats as he wears, I'd hate to deal with his daily email volume! Curt

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Re: Locating Color Copiers
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John C. Brice muttered something about... :: ::The Secret Service is a division of the Treasury Department. One of their ::main duties is tracking down counterfeiters. If someone has stolen a color ::copy machine, there's a very good chance that it was stolen for the end ::purpose of counterfeiting. So I would imagine that that would be why the ::SS would be looking for this particular stolen property. Make sense? That's ridiculous. I hate to start a flame-war, but if I decided that I desperately needed a color copier but didn't want to spend that money and figured I'd just steal one, why would there be a good chance that I'd be doing this to start a counterfeiting process? Maybe I just want to make color copies. If you truly believe that this would be the main impetus for anyone stealing on of these devices you're thinking in the same ballpark as those who we fight against with cryptography. Additionally, it's only possible to photocopy $1, $5 and $10 because anything larger than that has that funny little strip of plastic in the bill. e x t r a p o l a t e steve j. white _____________________________________________________________________________ Gort, klatu barada nicto. aragorn(a)alpha1.csd.uwm.edu -< I think the general point is that the secret service has authority when there is a counterfeiting case. I don't know the particulars but in this case, if the secret service showed up, you can bet they had authority. Agencies are very possesive about jurisdiction. Surely in this case the secret service was looking for the copier because they had reason to believe it was being used in counter- feiting. That said, it's not too difficult to guess that they had a good deal of information about the suspect and the copier already and thus it's not real strange that they managed to track down the copier quickly. As for photocopying 1, 5's and 10's only, you seem to assume that all the 20's and 50's without the polyester/foil strip in them have been removed from circulation. I got a silver certificate in change the other day if that tells you anything about how likely that is. (the 1988 series bills had no such strip...) -uni- (Dark)

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cypherpunks-seattle@netcom.com is up and running.
by northrop＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Last weekend the call went out somewhat at the last minute for a Cypherpunks physical meeting in Seattle, and 11 people showed! With a little planning, I'm sure we can have more of the Seattle crowd attending the next meeting. The new mailing list is to facilitate that planning. The intro doc follows. Scott -- Scott Northrop <northrop(a)netcom.com> (206)784-2083 Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules. Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt. -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War, Book IV ----------------------------------->% snip %<---------------------------------- Welcome to the cypherpunks-seattle(a)netcom.com mailing list. Like every moderator of every new list, I hope this will be mostly signal and very little noise. I don't envision this as a general discussion list -- that's what the main list is for. This list is for: Coordinating physical meetings of Cypherpunks in Seattle. Location, time, equipment, arranging rides, etc. Suggesting topics to cover at the meetings. Coordinating other local group activities. Announcements of relevant talks, seminars and other such goodies in the Seattle area and environs. *Concise* pointers to other local groups, mailing lists, and sources of information that might be of interest to local Cypherpunks. Whatever everyone seems to use it for. This list is NOT for: Reposting the "important" messages from the main list or any other mailing list or newsgroup. (If someone wants to run a "distilled" Cypherpunks list, fine. This isn't it!) Preaching to the converted. No ranting! (If you want to rant, do it on the main list. Everyone else seems to...) Rehashing the same topics that are going on the main list. This list is managed by a Majordomo-style mailing list server running on netcom.com. If you want to send a command to the list server, put it in the body of a message to listserv(a)netcom.com. Some useful commands: subscribe cypherpunks-seattle unsubscribe cypherpunks-seattle help Any suggestions for how to improve this intro are welcome. Any suggestions for a *local* FAQ are also welcome. Always remember, the space-time continuum is allocated on a first-come, first-served basis. So drive carefully! Scott Northrop <northrop(a)netcom.com> <skyhawk(a)cpac.washington.edu>

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Re: CLIPPER COMPROMIZED?
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just got word from the RISKS folks that the upcoming issue has a denouncement of the Network World article, from Denning. She says she checked up on it, and it's BS. This is pretty much obvious, but it still leaves open the question of who originally came up with this rumor to monger, and why? It looks almost like an act of desperation. That's my interest in this. If it was something that could be taken seriously, it would be a good bit of propaganda work, truth or falsehood aside. But the entire short article smacks of conspiracy theorist ranting. I hope this sort of stuff isn't going to become more frequent, or it may make anti-Clipper people look, from the outside, like kooks. -- Stanton McCandlish * mech(a)eff.org * Electronic Frontier Found. OnlineActivist "In a Time/CNN poll of 1,000 Americans conducted last week by Yankelovich Partners, two-thirds said it was more important to protect the privacy of phone calls than to preserve the ability of police to conduct wiretaps. When informed about the Clipper Chip, 80% said they opposed it." - Philip Elmer-Dewitt, "Who Should Keep the Keys", TIME, Mar. 14 1994

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Re: spyproofing your house/work building
by lefty＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I suppose they could bounce four or five lasers on the same window in >hopes of being able to use two beams for the substraction, but if the >speaker is placed in a good location, or several of them are placed >on the same window, they'll have a bitch of a time getting anything. If you're seriously worried about los Federales expending this degree of effort on you, you must lead a radically more exciting life than _I_ do. In the relatively isolated area where I live, anyone parked close enough to my house to do this sort of thing (and given the ambient foliage, that'd be _mighty_ close) would stick out like a sore thumb. This is not a scenario over which I plan to lose much sleep. -- Lefty (lefty(a)apple.com) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.

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