December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: PGP 2.6
by MichaelRgn＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello C'punx, I really enjoy reading this list. Keep up the good work. I do have a question though. Is PGP 2.6 available for the Macintosh?? If so, where can I find it? Thank You, Michael Ragan michaelRgn(a)aol.com

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macpgp
by Mikolaj Habryn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What is the most recent version of macpgp - 2.2 or 2.3? --

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PGP in Australia
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

dichro(a)tartarus.uwa.edu.au: > If anyone wants to give me a copy, drop it off at > tartarus.uwa.edu.au:/pub/dichro/incoming > - provided, of course, that it is legal for you to do so ...:) Pick up PGP versions 2.2 - 6, and the non-RSAREF 6ui, from ftp.dsi.unimi.it /pub/security/crypt/PGP Unless Australia forbids _importing_ crypto, not a crime. PGP 6 is the MIT RSAREF version, so someone violated ITAR to get it to Italy. Using it outside the US and Canada also violates RSADSI's _copyrights_. PGP 6ui was released from the UK, and therefore does not violate ITAR. It doesn't use RSAREF, so it doesn't violate RSADSI copyrights. If used in the US, it does violate RSADSI _patents_. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh They came for the Jews, and I was silent because I was not a Jew; rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in They came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not protest, because I did not Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 belong to a trade union; Voicemail +91 11 3760335 They came for the Catholics, and I said nothing because I was not a Catholic; H 34C Saket And then they came for me. New Delhi There was no one left to say anything... INDIA ----Father Niemoeller

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No Subject
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What sort of encryption is used for the Global Positioning System (GPS), operating in the Precise Positioning Service (PPS) mode? Is it one of the military "KY-xx/KG-xx" modes, or "something else"? =====

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Regulatory Arbitrage
by hughes＠ah.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here a quotation from a book I've been reading: "The eurocurrency markets represent a type of regulatory arbitrage. Eurobanking is a managed financial package that combines the currency of one country (one regulatory environment) with the banking regulations and competitive efficiencies of another country. This repackaging was made possible by improvements in worldwide communications links and information technology. If the regulatory burden becomes too high in one area of the world, the bundle of eurobanking services can be reassembled in another. Hence, national regulators must compete to maintain their respective shares of the eurocurrency business. Competition with respect to lending quotas, reserve requirements, capital requirements, deposit insurance, the taxing and reporting of interest payments, and the taxing of profits, dividends, and capital gains, all measured against any perceived positive benefits of local regulation, governs the geographical distribution of eurocurrency market shares." >From _International Financial Markets_, by J. Orlin Grabbe, formerly of the Wharton School. Regulatory arbitrage is an Important concept, as well as a great phrase. The writer is square in the middle of the mainstream in the business world, and note how effortlessly he speaks of avoiding governments and playing them off against each other. There is a lesson to be learned here--that speaking of internationalization as if it were somehow disapproved of, as if it were not absolutely matter-of-fact, is a mistake. If I refer to the internationalization of retail funds transfer systems, for example, as if someone might not like that, I also ask the hearer an implicit question: "Might you also disapprove?" In a similar vein, exhibiting, with repsect to cryptography, the analogue of teenaged glee in smashing mailboxes, somehow thinking that you've also struck a blow against authority, is another mistake. We need not show up the NSA, we simply want them to lose. Regarding the subject of the quotation, it is vitally important that the residents of the USA who are on this list remember that the key to strategic victory in cryptography lies internationally, not only for the USA, but for every other country as well. If remailers are outlawed or supressed out of one country, the same functionality can be made in another. And so forth. Arbitrage is smuggling, or rather, the transport of one good or service purchased cheap in one place and sold dear in another. Arbitrage always has one of two effects, either a transfer of real wealth to the place more advantageous the buyer (as well as enriching the middleman), or an equalization of advantage. For financial markets, the equalization always happens sooner or later, and the price may either rise or fall in either the source or destination. Arbitrage of regulation almost always leads to equalization, although the time scales are much longer. When equalization happens, it's almost never that the advantage decreases for the destination buyer. Rather, because there are many more than two markets available, any tighter regulation invariably puts those two markets on an even footing in disadvantage with respect to the rest of the world. So the arbitrage of regulation usually leads to a relaxtion of regulation. We need to remember to make it possible for regulatory arbitrage to occur. If it can happen, it likely will, but only if the choice is available. Eric

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cripple quest
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

re cripple; i was told that if law enforcement cannot determine which key will unlock the message prior to the message actually being sent over the net, the message will not be decodable is there any truth to this?

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Re: cripple quest
by Patrick Juola 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Nobody asks : re cripple; i was told that if law enforcement cannot determine which key will unlock the message prior to the message actually being sent over the net, the message will not be decodable is there any truth to this? I don't think so. I can certainly download a message onto my disk and decypher it at my leisure, by brute force if necessary. Patrick

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Re: Crime and punishment in cyberspace - 3 of 3
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jim choate "Rights are the items of a citizens characteristic which are outside the ability of that government to control within its charter. Rights come before a government forms. If they didn't then you would not be able to give it a charter." This is true in the sense that one has the right to exist and to function and in general to be oneself independent of artificial government operations. In Nature, you have a "right" to anything you like, but there may be no one besides yourself there to appreciate that fact and to deliver it. When a group of individuals associate and create agreements/charters, the delineation of rights serves to protect their separateness - their property, their privacy, their character - against encroachments from the group, by defining consciously where the boundary lines are to be drawn - what the individual can expect to keep, in exception to what everyone expects to share. Once a group considers itself an official "society" of like-minded individuals, they often begin to demand "rights" which do not naturally belong to them or their society - or which they have not explicity agreed to share: . the right to have what others have created/produced (like a service which nature does not automatically arrange for delivery - ex: optical cables & the internet at 3200 bps) . the right to access what is not their own (outside of what nature has naturally endowed them with - ex: computers) "Self protection is a requirement in general against another individual and not a society." A society of like-minded individuals can also be a threat to the safety of non-conformists, depending on how the group decides to respond to those who are not exactly like the others. Blanc

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GPS encryption of low order bits
by peb＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't know how they encrypt the "low order bits", but I do know that it isn't a show-stopper. Trimble Navigation makes GPS devices that, once calibrated by a known position, are centimeter accurate. This is done *without* a ground signal (an older technique around the GPS crippling). Paul E. Baclace peb(a)netcom.com

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party (in the SF/bayarea)
by Evil Pete 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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