December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: crypto for porno users
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"moroni(a)scranton.com" "Moroni" 25-NOV-1995 16:21:44.10 I'm soory but I don't care if the images come from mars . Jerking off to the images of kids is sick. ---------------------------- That's your opinion, and thus your problem to be dealt with by you. Yes, I'm calling that a _problem_. If it makes you want to harm others who aren't harming anyone else, then it's a problem. I also have my doubts as to whether you can honestly deny ever being attracted by a young teenager, even as an adult. But your sexual preferences are not my business, any more than anyone else's are of yours. I will refrain from posting further on cypherpunks about this, since it's getting far from the purpose of the list. Feel free to reply in private email. -Allen

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REPOST: Amnesia Remailer
by Scott Kenney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Excuse the repost but I was asked to do this again !MIME :) The amnesia remailer is now available for public use: amnesia is a combination mixmaster/type 1 remailer supporting the following capabilities: <amnesia.chardos.connix.com> cpunk mix pgp hash latent cut ek ksub Encrypted: PGP - header ## - pasting Latency: - header Cutmarks: - header Encrypt-Key: - header Due to the nature of my mail connection there is an automatic variable latency of 0-180 minutes. The reordering pool is set to 5 presently. amnesia is currently running the following software: Lance Cottrell's Mixmaster v.2.0.3beta6 Lance Cottrell's Reordering package. John Fleming's Freedom Remailer v.1.00 (upgrading to 1.6beta soon) Hopefully USENET posting capability will be added soon. The remailer keys are attached. Scott Kenney =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= amnesia amnesia(a)chardos.connix.com e320fd79c4c229decabe4d486bd84394 2.0.2 - -----Begin Mix Key----- e320fd79c4c229decabe4d486bd84394 258 AASlry72N9LH8PxZ2oyfETBsL/BTgi9XAVnRJ/61 poZOwA+JJ7hmok+3PCjRJyyT+e8zbzxKIcYoJneP 8alFIy/YHhFbzBHwqfRnakULVGdAKhonR4M2lqNc VWO+uiFdCxafVe0ZONjFQIrcr1EUS5bIQEBpf+fz 3wVkzzQ+ifOITwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB - -----End Mix Key----- - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzB86y8AAAEEAKEWFiS8DqxtyTacR9DOIcRqpRTkxdlq6UY4FxBzy16C0N3S dspQkwAQR5dDQqZ2JSRJ6m+iE0l+3OohZn44xMj/cbKUDFQon3Vh6vCBVvABPc1N aY1X9x9H7FzPOWsc4pivVbzJB3luw6+gzZ2zYAN/nX0oi9LoCrM8PpA8rdoFAAUR tDhBbW5lc2lhIFJlbWFpbGVyIFR5cGUgSSBLZXkgPGFtbmVzaWFAY2hhcmRvcy5j b25uaXguY29tPokAlQMFEDCB9D2zPD6QPK3aBQEB+6sEAIL/OtuErDiVpOqRARQQ I0yWWTU1tyT11Bl+Kmx1Sf5p1JyE2Z6bt3tPLflDyek2NY42tNV0k8cbig4Q9kvP 5GwCUcKRexiWVJFUpF6FABL2wZZMltt7nMmtxRwxw+LsMra7dYhPSaYewNNHKQ7C xcYKPxTg5HkCg7leqtEp2H9p =6+JZ - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMLgNDZQgY7wl3Gh1AQGUVQQA05aN+xx4sVVohysVN8xrvsvc5KxP/82y sLUHCerLEsKH2EHnb1mcoT8Ayu+nrp+0YU+/di2QNF+AMMONhP/J0OQJt7odqbFM ZgxUmyX9ya1UnRmZDiTEubGsUWeOMt9IZoeLryzMgYcB9502GpvMZWp8r6YFW5vN nEphpRRncWY= =Abso -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: So. FL Cypherpunks Keysigning/Party
by jpb＠miamisci.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jim Ray (liberty(a)gate.net) announced a South Florida Cypherpunks meeting for the night of Wednesday, November 29th at the Abbey Brewing Company on South beach. >Location: >The Abbey Brewing Company (305) 538-8110 >1115 16th Street, Miami Beach > >Directions: >[From North: Take I-95 South to 195 exit, over to the beach, and go South >on Alton Road. Look for a green sign that says "BAR" atop the building.] >[From South: Take I-95 North to 395 exit, over to the beach, and go North >on Alton Road. Look for a green sign that says "BAR" atop the building.] I am proposing that all cypherpunks planning on attending the meeting email me their PGP key fingerprint between now and noon on the 29th. I'll collate them and print enough copies of the fingerprint checklist for all who've announced that they're planning to attend. At the meeting, you can verify (or not, not my business, really) the fingerprints with the other attendees. Afterwards, we'll exchange keys via email and sign them at home and mail them back to their owners. I'll set up an email list so that each person can email out their key once they've merged all the signatures. Suggestions as to how to streamline this process are welcome. For more information on the meeting, contact Jim at liberty(a)gate.net Joe Block <jpb(a)miamisci.org> "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." -- Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMLgL5WGnwFiC3O2NAQHxwAgAu6kSVBfEwBYGwNaYbw5OOjNxP6j49T5F h2z7WIKhehq94yiT+WhyijMscCqlGUTsBp3aDVFYY9n2/ONXr+MyGIMoTst0dvsv dXhuguIcBTuvImTddGA4MNZG7eUibO/r98BPJlF9iRfHTwpCOXOsNJGit+ONSB++ Cy8xgAFUiAUaOvNbi63pTnELoyCmBvFqhROqspeUmRGYYHZj4w3DF3nEH+XED31K vVx7FFpejIeBBfhk72T7vL0L+cu17R4uIhOgmqUmHIw7k7rmLxf+z7f7fNAwQpPi yjEsyXPtKwENXV2kRSc12O8XjwNoKiQBfuGBDpSfqbev4fkwoMuoyA== =z9sP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- signoff 2048bit-Fingerprint: 74 64 C7 6F 51 72 36 3D 87 75 F9 F5 2A F6 8F 74 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help Phil! email zldf(a)clark.net or see http://www.netresponse.com/zldf

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Re: crypto for porno users
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:14 PM 11/25/95 -0500, Moroni wrote: > > I'm soory but I don't care if the images come from mars . Jerking off >to the images of kids is sick. An image of a sixteen year old girl masturbating is classified as child pornography in American law: Think about how old you were when you first engaged in sexual acts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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[FYI] FBI Training Eastern European Police
by Dave Del Torto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[ from: The Hungary Report #1.28, free weekly, direct from Budapest ] [ retransmitted to list without permission to increase distribution ] FBI School Teaches New Tricks to Old Enemies By Susan Milligan Copyright (c) 1995 In matching navy blue polo shirts, the students sat transfixed as they watched slides showing the destruction of the Oklahoma City and World Trade Center bombings. "God forbid you should ever have anything like this happen over here," American instructor Ed Burwitz told his Central European class, outfitted with headphones for simultaneous translation of the lecture. "It is a tough task for any freedom-loving country to prevent terrorism," he added. The class on forensics is typical of what goes on in law enforcement academies across America. But in this classroom, the instructors are teaching crime-fighting tactics to students from onetime enemy nations. "This could not have happened five years ago," said Laszlo Simon, the Hungarian director of the International Law Enforcement Academy here. "We don't preach or teach," said Leslie Kaciban, the American director of the newly-opened facility. Instead, the American instructors - culled from the FBI and other law enforcement agencies - share information and experiences with the students for them to adapt to their systems. Students from Hungary, Russia, Poland, the Czech Republic and other Central and Eastern European nations attend ILEA's 8-week sessions, the first of which began in April. The United States fronted $2.5 million to renovate the campus, which includes a brand-new gym, classrooms, dormitories and one of Hungary's few indoor tennis courts. The Hungarian government contributed $500,000 to renovate the facility, but the U.S. will pay the $3.5 million yearly cost to operate the center, which is modeled after the law enforcement training center in Quantico, Va. The facility looks like any other college campus - students go on field trips together, take "wellness" physical fitness class together, and will have a yearbook and alumni newsletter. The idea is to help the Eastern Europeans with their burgeoning crimes problems, as well as to foster cooperation on international crime problems. "I'm amazed at the freedom of travel that is possible" after the opening up of the Eastern nations, Burwitz said. But "that means criminals can travel as well," he said, allowing them to traffic drugs and contraband. "The more interaction we have with these countries in law enforcement, the better it will be for emerging democracies," Kaciban said. Class topics range from "human dignity" - how to treat a crime suspect - to undercover operations and fraud. April's bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City is being used as an example in several classes. In "crisis management," students will learn "how to contain it (a crisis) and keep it from erupting," said instructor Stephen Brooks, who helped handle the Oklahoma City bombing. Big-scale bombings are not common to this part of the world, students said. But they said they learned a lot about how to fight organized crime, which is mushrooming in the aftermath of the fall of communism. "They told they have a lot of problems (with organized crime), and that it's better if we learn from their mistakes," said Hungarian student Vilmos Szeplaki. Organized crime is doubly damaging to the emerging nations, because it undermines their economies, Kaciban said. Investors are naturally reluctant to dump money into a nation if they believe there is rampant corruption. Some teachings do not translate for the European students. For example, there is no Russian RICO - the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act that is one of the strongest American legal tools against organized crime. Eastern European crime syndicates tend not to be based in crime families, instructors said. And organized crime in Russia and Ukraine is so much a part of the society, that it's hard to stop it, said Amy O'Neil, a State Department official not involved in the ILEA. "Under the communist system, you basically did what you could get away with. Everyone broke laws," O'Neil said. "That's how you survived." Both students and teachers said there was a remarkable similarity, however, in the use of evidence and investigatory tools among the countries. Eastern Europeans are very familiar with the use of DNA testing, for example, to identify suspects, although they don't always have the money to do it, Burwitzsaid."There are different orders of laws between the U.S. and here," said a Czech student who would identify himself only as Milan. "But essentially, we have the same methods of investigation." * * * Susan Milligan <susan.milligan(a)magnet.hu> is a free-lance writer and stringer for the Boston Globe, the San Francisco Examiner, Business Central Europe and Hollywood Reporter.

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BOS_nya
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

11-26-95. Washrag: "Seeking the Government That Governs Best." Book review. What Comes Next: The End of Big Government And the New Paradigm Ahead By James P. Pinkerton Hyperion. 404 pp. $24.95 In Pinkerton's account, bureaucracy survives today only because no one has yet developed a coherent replacement model." Instead we have deluded ourselves into thinking that periodic upgrading of what Pinkerton calls the "Bureaucratic Operating System" (BOS) -- in the same way that computer software is upgraded -- will enable us to avoid the gloomy prospect of life in the "Cyber Future," his term for the horrific predicament of extreme inequality and hypercrime to which we are headed. At one point Pinkerton suggests that a parallel for Bill Clinton may be found in Mikhail Gorbachev. Both leaders "shrank from genuine perestroika" after their peoples had come to the realization that the system itself was the problem. Displaying a sure grasp of popular culture, technology and political history, Pinkerton writes engagingly and insightfully about the defects and malfunctionings of the American bureaucratic state. His refreshing analyses of the flaws in bureaucratic thinking are among the best that we have on the subject and, surely, the wittiest. BOS_nya (7 kb)

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[NOISE] Re: crypto for porno users
by Rev. Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > consent. For instance, Britain's age for consent depends on the > type of sexuality involved; heterosexual sex receives a more > lenient age (18) than homosexual (21). This is getting distinctly off-topic, but Britain's age of consent is actually 16 for heterosexual sex, 18 for male homosexuals (unless the government have changed it back again, they reduced it from 21 a few months ago), and I think 16 for lesbians. But it's all terribly complicated, as you pointed out... Incidentally, the "Sun" newspaper, one of the most popular in the UK (sells 3,000,000-4,000,000 copies daily, AFAIR), has often printed half-page erotic pictures of topless sixteen-year-old girls. Would this be "kiddie porn" in the US ? OBCrypto: Did anyone ever find out which version of A5 is in Applied Cryptography ? Mark

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Re: Cypherpunk Certification Authority
by Jeff Hupp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 25 Nov 95 at 15:35, Alex Strasheim wrote: : > Basicly when the browser finds a new CA that it does know about it promts : > the user and through a series of dialog boxes the user chooses to trust it : > or not. : : Is anyone running an ssl web server that would let us see how this works? : : A 'how to' on rolling your own can be found at: http://fiasco.snre.umich.edu/~altitude/ssl/ssl.saga.html While that one is using a certificate from VaraSign, as mentioned earlier you can create your own authority and certificate with tools you find at: http://bond.edu.au/External/Misc/Crypto/ -- JHupp(a)gensys.com |For PGP Public Key: http://gensys.com |finger jhupp(a)gensys.com The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning, while those other subjects merely require scholarship

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Re: Cypherpunk Certification Authority
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Aleph One wrote: > On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > > Hmmm. If someone is willing to find out what is needed to become a > > C.A. and to run one, and it turns out not to be particularly onerous, > > I or one of my corporate alter egos might be willing. I must say, > > though, that being an anti-fan of X.509 the situation would be ironic... > > > > Perry > > Well from Netscape perspetive as far as I know you need nothing. Basicly > when the browser finds a new CA that it does know about it promts > the user and through a series of dialog boxes the user chooses to trust > it or not. Gee, wasn't that clever of Netscape?? Lilies that fester smell worse than weeds ... people should remember that. (I think Shakespeare first wrote that in one of his sonnets ...) > (Well that is theory, and what netscape release notes say, since > I dont have access to an SSL server right now, and would need to figure > out how to make my own certificate, I havent tried it). Bingo. *theory* ... right ... I mean what would be the point?? Installing Netscape degrades your inherent system security. No ifs, ands, or buts. Netscape Navigator basically destroys whatever sense of privacy or security, any person ever had the illusion of having. And that pretty well rules out CA. Alice de 'nonymous ... ...just another one of those... ...hunters... P.S. This post is in the public domain. C. S. U. M. O. C. L. U. N. E.

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Re: Cypherpunk Certification Authority
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:53 AM 11/26/95 -0800, anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: >You'd rather sign before encryption?? > >Doesn't that give you "known plain-text" to attack? The signature is not known unless the whole message being signed is known. And any encryption scheme that is vulnerable to known plaintext attack where only a part of the message is known, is worthless anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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