December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Hardware for Sale
by abootch＠sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI -- Noticed in new ish of 2600 an ad for Consumertronics in NM selling Tempest, Van Eck systems, KX Radar Emitter -- and more (of course). No free catalog, tho'. -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQBNAizdNhgAAAECAKYlJfK4YQoaRYtiywdgR7OQmsS23oRFr3QYZf4mE1pQTvPg DGB7xVx2mfRjsqUdQsar4vdWyNZmXLMmHNdez9UABRG0K0FuZHkgSS4gTWF0aW5v ZyA8YWJvb3RjaEBzZnN1dmF4MS5zZnN1LmVkdT4= =KJFP -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Is Clipper Almost Dead? (was: Clipper and Tipper on Route 666)
by owen＠autodesk.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Clark Reynard <clark(a)metal.psu.edu> > I think it would be very important if we could attempt to > sway the Christian right into this; it is certain we > probably don't agree on many issues, and the "700 Club" > anti-Clipper piece was very effective, good video. > > If you don't believe me, watch it. They almost seem > to agree with us entirely on the issue of cryptography. > Perhaps it's time for a _new_ group; the cyphermonks. > > I nominate St. John the Divine as a patron saint. Don Corleone taught his son Michael to *keep his friends close, and his enemys closer*. meanwhile, don't forget for a second that the christian right *will* toss your anarchic ass on the pyre where they *will* roast pagan faggots like myself after they've squeezed you for your support. Religion has it's protection clearly enumerated in the constitution, and a clear agenda to keep everyone elses freedom from being similary enumerated. Caveat emptor, and carry a loaded flamethrower, because the first chance they get to cut you out of the deal you will need it. Me, I plan to be long gone into the "Inner Zone (TM)". LUX ./. owen

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Re: Should we oppose the Data Superhighway/NII?
by jon＠balder.us.dell.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike writes: > Doug writes: >> Mike Godwin <mnemonic(a)eff.org> said: >> >First of all, EFF's Open Platform says outright that the government is not >> >going to build the data superhighway. Check again if you don't believe me. >> >> Ah...do you mean "should not build", or do you really mean that it contains >> a discussion outlining the logic behind predicting that they *won't* >> build? > > Nobody seriously thinks the government's going to build a Data > Superhighway. EFF's interested in seeing the private sector do it. I thought we already had a data superhighway and what congress (et Al) is really talking about is a national system of on-ramps and off-ramps? Jon -- ,,, (o o) Jon Boede ----ooO-(_)-Ooo---- jon(a)dell.com +1 512 728-4802 Engineering, Dell Computer Corp. Server OS Development Austin, TX "When I was 10, mean old man Miller's house burned down. We put home plate where his toilet once stood -- his garden became our center field... and in these ways, the laws of karma were revealed."

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Re: Big Mother can't protect our privacy
by cfrye＠ciis.mitre.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim writes: > >(* MMPI is the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Index test, which >sounds like the test described here. It has a couple of thousand of >these questions. Without defending the analytical powers of this test, >let me say that the intent is psychological, not political. The >famoous questions about believing in God, having homosexual >experiences, washing one's hands, and so on, are devised by shrinks, >not designed to ferret out atheists and homos. The MMPI has been in >wide use since the 1950s, though it's use is declining as people file >lawsuits over it.) > It should also be noted that the MMPI is designed to diagnose abnormal personalities, while the California Personality Inventory (CPI) is designed to diagnose more or less normal personality traits. It seems that companies indiscriminately giving the MMPI to individuals without suspision of neurotic/ psychotic tendencies would open themselves up for a solid thumping in court. P.S. - I noticed a book on the statistical basis of the MMPI in the psychology section of Border's Bookstore in Tysons Corner, VA, a few months ago. If there's interest, I could look for a citation on my next trip there. Curtis D. Frye cfrye(a)ciis.mitre.org "If you think I speak for MITRE, I'll tell you how much they pay me and make you feel foolish."

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cypherpunks hardware list
by jdblair＠lust.cas.muohio.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To all of those interested in the cypherpunks hardware list: I apoligize for the delay- I expected to have it on-line by now. It is really close to running, I'm just getting some errors from the ListProc software that my SysAdmin is ironing out right now. It should be running within 24 hours. later, -john.

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Re: Modem taps/Caller ID
by mycal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 8 Nov 1993 13:05:58 -1000 (HST), "Timothy Newsham" <newsham(a)wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu> wrote: > The number is transmitted in ascii at 1200 bits per second. The > standard used to transmit the data is not the "normal" 1200 bps > mode of your modem. Normally 1200 bps is accomplished by sending > > I have no idea how you would get your modem to go into the right > mode (and how it would react to data on the line before it goes > off hook). > The 1200 bps it uses is called bell 202, kinda reminds me of the old days with an apple, an apple cat modem, and first disfer then catsend and catfer... Hmmm maybe I can dust off that apple cat modem and use it for caller ID :) The apple cat modem is the only modem I know of that supported this flavor of 1200bps, which was great for short bursts of data with little syncronization neccary. mycal

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Re: Should we oppose the Data Superhighway/NII?
by fnerd＠smds.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike Godwin sez > In order to get to a world in which free markets can meet our demand for > high-bandwidth connectivity, we have to dig ourselves out from the > market-failure position we're in now. And because government is part of > the problem, changing government policy is part of the solution. So, > that's one of the major thrusts of EFF's NII policy. As I understand it, for both telephones and cable TV, it is still common for local governments to "grant" "franchises" to single companies for phone and cable wires. If there were one thing to change, that would be it. In other words, the "market failure" you're talking about is in a situation where the law forbids a market. And the change required is that the government not be involved. It would be nice if that were how EFF stated its NII policy: Yankee Go Home. Also, isn't the FCC is somehow involved in defining cable and telephone services, and what combinations of services companies are allowed to offer? Or am I thinking of "information providers" vs....something? Here again, the limitation is merely in what's legal. -fnerd(a)smds.com quote me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a aKxB8nktcBAeQHabQP/d7yhWgpGZBIoIqII8cY9nG55HYHgvtoxiQCVAgUBLMs3K ui6XaCZmKH68fOWYYySKAzPkXyfYKnOlzsIjp2toust1Q5A3/n54PBKrUDN9tHVz 3Ch466q9EKUuDulTU6OLsilzmRvQJn0EJhzd4pht6hanC0R3seYNhUYhoJViCcCG sRjLQs4iVVM= =9wqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Applications of cryptography
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My apologies for getting caught up in the political momentum of the Private vs. Public debate on income tax. It was too tempting... Anyway, back to wondering. I am trying to compile information about the different applications of cryptography. I would like to create something like the handbook of cryptography. Some examples that come to mind are: digital cash, DC nets, coin flipping, mental poker, digital signatures, secure communication, encrypted file systems, etc. Any help will be appreciated. If people respond to me directly, I will post a summary to the list, and maybe distribute the handbook if it is a successful project in a few months. Thanks, Wonderer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: (fwd) Clipper and Tipper on Route 666
by owen＠autodesk.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> To: tcmay(a)netcom.netcom.com (Timothy C. May) > Tim May suggests we called the "Data Superhighway" > > > "Route 666." > > In Unix file permissions 666 means the file is readable by > world. Apropos for a panoptic net where encryption is banned > or "Clipped". There is an actual route 666, its in New Mexico or Arizona. A t shirt manufacturer here in SF prints up a version of the sign on a black shirt. one of my favorite *cruising* shirts BTW :-) LUX ./. owen

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Re: Wired 1.6 is not yet publically available
by trestrab＠GVSU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May (tcmay(a)netcom.com) wrote: >A couple of you have asked about "Wired" and the availability of the >new issue, 1.6. Especially as the first "monthly" issue, 1.5, has >only been out a few weeks. (And it mentions a strange thing >called "BlackNet" on page 32, as sharp observers have >noted.) >I've been told by Sandy Sandfort that the issue is not yet on the >newstands, and may not even be sent out to contributor and >subscribers for a couple more weeks....so no point in >looking for it now. How'd I get one, then? "Wired" 1.6 was on the newstands in West. Michigan today. Jeff -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.

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