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Re: BATFC -- Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Cryptography
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 3/10/98 10:45 PM, John Young (jya(a)pipeline.com) passed this wisdom: >Brian Riley wrote: >>On 3/10/98 7:22 AM, John Young (jya(a)pipeline.com) passed this wisdom: > >> John, would you really refer to Janet Reno as a 'charming weirdo'???? I >>can think of lost of names, epithets, and descriptions, but that surely >>would be far down my list. > >Brian, that post was a feeble one-time attempt to write straight prose, >uninflected, unaccusatory, undiabolical, un-nuts, un-understandable. > >It took days of agony to arrive at empty perfection, to say nothing with >crystal clear aplomb, foreign policy piquant, transparent balderdash >cover-up of bald-face lies delivered deadpan grammatically. > >I been studying James Rubin's disarmingly weird repartee at the State >Department press conferences. Today he asked a reporter to define >"who's got the con" for foreign policy. (Laughter, the transcript hooted.) > >"Charming weirdo" is the Secretary of State's and Rubin's demonic >auto-epithet for her, emulating homicidal Maggie Thatcher hiding her >demure will to slaughter. > >Swear to god this is the last time I'll try to ape well-mannered civil >discourse. You got the con: It's too sicko wacko. Back to incoherent >snarl of ignorant brutes chewing leg off for freedom. ROFLAAMAIBGFOT37thFOAOBDTADW: rollin on floor laffing almost as much as if Bill Gates fell out the 37th floor of an office building due to a defective window.

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Remove me.
by StanSquncr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan wrote: >If anyone chooses to try this act of civil disobedience, let me know and >I'll write about it. But be warned: the Department of Commerce has >approximately 60 special agents who enforce violations of export rules. >These are federal police officers, stationed in field office around the >U.S., with badges and arrest power, trained at FLETC in Georgia. They don't >have a sense of humor about these things. Well, yes, that's what BXA flaunts, but I wonder if the encryption regs are a high priority compared to the cases which are actually pursued which deal with truly threatening technology that every congressperson loves to fearfully hate. Yapping Chihuahua crypto is not up there yet, I suspect. True, there's a batch of agents being trained to work specifically on encryption, and with the total of crypto exports now exceeding $half a billion, it may be cost and politically effective to set an example by pounding one or two neo-crypto-Zimmermanns, especially as the year's hearings rumble, troll and slumber. Still, Adam's signature RSA-taunt has been on our Web site for months, terminating each of his exemplary stream of messages on low perfidy in high places, to no effect on BXA's eagle eyeball. Adam's 3-liner was also once part of Peter Junger's legal filings <http://jya.com/pdj4.htm> (DoJ downloaded the evidence) until we were ordered to excise the tiny terrible Perl so that Peter's noble bite of the hand of god would be clearly his stiletto fangs and not confused with Sir Adam Bulldog's ass ripper. Now, Declan, what would a crypto-miscreant need to do to actually get BXA's fierce kennel of crypto bloodhounds' attention, to make it truly worth everybody's headline read, money, politics, talents and teeth? By Tuesday, when Cindy Cohn sticks her head in the beast's mouth.

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(no subject)
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Information Security wrote: > > > Guy -- > > > First you and Vulis flame each others, and then > > > you start claiming that VZNuri's postings are really Vulis, > > > and now you're claiming that postings from Toto's machines > > > are really Vulis. Perhaps *you're* really Vulis? > > > > Bill Frantz is *really* Vulis. > > Bill Stewart is *really* Toto. > > What are you trying to say? > > A point in every direction is like a point in no direction at all? Sometime ago there was a post to the list which made more sense than all of the other finger-pointing posts, combined, which have proclaimed this-or-that entity to be a tentacle/testicle of one or another of the list members. The post was by someone claiming to be the "only" real member of the cypherpunks list. It told how he had, being a lonely loser whom no one would communicate with, started the cypherpunks mailing list and posted to it under several personas, hoping to generate interest and have other people join the list. It seems that his efforts began to escalate and take on a life of their own, and he eventually had developed all of the personas that currently existed on the list, and that no one else had ever actually joined the list, at all. "In reality, we talk only to ourselves, but sometimes we talk loud enough that others may hear us." Kahil Gibran, The Prophet 2-2

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by info＠209.116.211.250 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Bernstein's top lawyer, Cindy Cohn, testifies to Congress Tuesday
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The lead attorney in Dan Bernstein's challenge to the US export controls on cryptography is Cindy Cohn, a partner at McGlashan & Sarrail of San Mateo, CA. She will testify on the constitutionality of export controls (and proposed domestic controls) on cryptography, before the Senate Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on the Constitution, Federalism, and Property Rights. The hearing will begin at 10AM (Washington, DC time) on Tuesday, March 17. The hearing will be cybercast in real-time, and will also be archived, at: http://www.computerprivacy.org (Scroll down to the "Encryption hearing to be cybercast" link.) Copies of Cindy's written testimony will be available on Tuesday from the EFF Web site; see http://www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/ITAR_export/Bernstein_case/ I hope you can attend. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has not yet ruled on the government's appeal in our case. They hope to overturn our Federal District Court case, in which all current export controls on cryptographic source code were declared unconstitutional. We expect a ruling within the next several months. John Gilmore Electronic Frontier Foundation Here are further details, courtesy of Alan Davidson of CDT, <abd(a)cdt.org>: (1) Senate Committee To Hold Encryption Hearing March 17 Constitutional law experts, industry representatives, and the attorney in a case challenging U.S. encryption regulations will testify on encryption policy before the Senate Judiciary Committee's Constitution, Federalism, and Property Rights Subcommittee on Tuesday, March 17. The hearing, "to examine privacy in the digital age, focusing on encryption and mandatory access issues", is scheduled for 10:00 am in the Senate's Dirksen Office Bldg., Rm. 226. Among the hearing highlights: Two well-respected legal scholars, Professor Kathleen Sullivan of Stanford Law School and Professor Richard Epstein of the University of Chicago, will outline the major constitutional concerns raised by domestic encryption controls and other policies to regulate encryption. Expected witnesses include: Panel 1: Rep. Robert Goodlatte (R-VA) Panel 2: Robert Litt, Department of Justice Panel 3: Tom Parenty, Sybase Bill Wiedemann, RedCreek Communications Representative of Law Enforcement Association of America Panel 4: Kathleen Sullivan, Stanford Law School Richard Epstein, U. of Chicago Law School Cindy Cohn, McGlashan & Sarrail Tim Casey, MCI

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by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

3/17/98 A note to Cypherpunks: Today I was sent a missive ostensibly from Mr. Toto. Following are the particulars: [begin quote] Return-Path: <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Received: from harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (harrier.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.5.2]) by camel10.abraxis.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02654 for <camcc(a)abraxis.com>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from uymfdlvk (regnsk01d05020132.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.24.84]) by harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA21157; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:40:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <350E1A48.6C00(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:38:01 -0800 From: Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Reply-To: toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca To: Replay Anonymous remailer <remailer(a)REPLAY.COM> [end quote] For health reasons I removed myself from the list several months ago; now it appears the errors of my youth have returned to haunt me. I had assumed either the RCMP, CIA, FBI, KGB, ASPCA, or some other local authority had plucked Toto from the Web. Alas, this latest message, SAHMD -- Prologue 8/0, indicates the torment continues unless, of course, it is a forgery. But then, Mr. T. has been known to forge messages he has signed and send them direct with screwed up Anon: headers. This must stop. Whom should I contact to complain about such harrassment? My head is hurting again for the first time in months. Alec

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Re: "Must refrain from using a mind": A(h)OL's son
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Information Violation wrote: > > from the Bienfait Rectal Examiner: > _________________________________________________________________ > > A(h)OL, a long, chubby dick with a thick mustache, has pleaded not > present to two felony counts alleging possession of cryptographic material > with the intention of ciphering or deciphering. > > If convicted, he faces up to six lifetimess in prison. > > He pleaded not present Wednesday and is free on his own recognizance, > subject to some unusual conditions: that he obey authority, stay away > from words, refrain from possessing or using a mind and get > psychopathological torture. > > Opening the back door of Jim Morrison's former home on a trimmed > cul-de-sac, A(h)OL, his face reflecting anarchy for a few seconds, > declined a donut and shut the door. > > A(h)OL's attorney, Adrian Messenger, said the persecution's theory of > reality was probably the result of 'bad acid.' His client, a > childless bachelor, with two sons, "is a 47-year-old turd," he said. > "He's not a cryptographer. He stays stoned a lot, and he's a pretty > recessive pervert." > > Adrian said A(h)OL "strikes me as an acutely illiterate guy who > wouldn't hurt a word. He hasn't got the social grace or skills of > one who would try subtly to peek up a female cryptographer's skirt > to see if she was wearing panties."

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