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But will it work for Congress?
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* The University of Minnesota was seeking more "specialists" to work on its three-year, $390,000 program to set an "odor emissions rating system" for regulating the state's 35,000 animal feedlots, according to an August Minneapolis Star Tribune story. Having judges, or government officials, go sniff the feedlot apparently would give insufficient due process of law; rather, a panel of sniffers will develop objective standards on the types of odors and their strength. Already 35 people are employed and have begun sniffing the nearly-200 chemical components of cow and pig manure in order to categorize them for the formal state stench test. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To read these News of the Weird newspaper columns from the past six months, go to http://www.nine.org/notw/notw.html (That site contains no graphics, no photos, no video clips, no audio. Just text. Deal with it.)

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RE: export restictions and investments
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Jack Oswald wrote: > > I am also aware of a company called VASCO that bought a crypto chip maker in Belgium which was apparently OK too. At this point a brief overview of modexp accelerators might be in order: o the Belgian chips I've seen are too slow. o the Rainbow board is OK, but non-exportable. o the Chrysalis PCMCIA card has the same performance as the Rainbow board at half the price. Also non-exportable. o the Ncipher SCSI based accelearator screams, but it a bit pricey. UK product. Exportable (?) http://www.ncipher.com/ o a high-end Alpha also performs rather nicely, according to some benchmarks Eric Young once posted. -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"

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Re: [cpj:250] (fwd) I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-openpgp-formats-00.txt
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Intercepeted email: Makoto MITSUI wrote: > $B$O$8$a$^$7$F!";00f$H$$$$$^$9!#(J > > --/ Hayashi_Tsuyoshi <take(a)barrier-free.co.jp> /-- $B$5$s$N(J > $B!X(J[cpj:248] (fwd) I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-openpgp-formats-00.txt$B!Y$K$D$$$F(J... > > >OpenPGP $B$N%$%s%?!<%M%C%H%I%i%U%H$,=P$?!"$H$$$&$*CN$i$;$,(J > >$B2s$C$F$-$^$7$?!#(J > > $B$9$_$^$;$s(J(^^; > > $B$I$J$?$+(J PGP $B$H(J PGP/MIME $B$H(J OpenPGP $B$N0c$$$d(J > $B$I$N$h$&4XO"$,$"$k$N$+65$($FD:$1$J$$$G$7$g$&$+!)(J(^^; > > >$B<B:]$N%I%i%U%H$O>e5-(J ftp $B$GF~<j$G$-$^$9!#0l1~(J > > http://www.barrier-free.co.jp/homes/PGPJ/ > > > >$B$K$bCV$-$^$7$?!#$I$J$?$+K]Lu$7$F$$$?$@$1$k$H=u$+$k$N$G$9(J > >$B$,(J...$B!#(J > > ('')(..) > > -- > Makoto MITSUI > e-mail mitsui(a)nds.co.jp, m-mitsui(a)imasy.or.jp > Key fingerprint = 82 CB 8D 9C A8 89 1E 53 45 51 E2 C5 DB 8A F0 4B Translation: Pearl Harbor Computers...Dec. 7th...Code Phrase: "Nuke Tim C. May"

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Password Snarfing
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* Life Imitates TV: (1) A Bangkok hotel worker was convicted in July of stealing from guests' safe-deposit boxes by rubbing his nose oil onto the buttons so he could check later to see which buttons had been pushed by the guest to open the safe. He said he learned the trick from watching the TV show "MacGyver." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To read these News of the Weird newspaper columns from the past six months, go to http://www.nine.org/notw/notw.html (That site contains no graphics, no photos, no video clips, no audio. Just text. Deal with it.)

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by Afriend＠good-buddy-911.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Report on UN conference on Internet and racism
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:22 PM 11/18/97 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >[Forwarded with permission, first few grafs deleted by request. --Declan] > >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:40:22 -0800 (PST) >From: Margarita Lacabe <marga(a)derechos.org> >Subject: UN Conference > >[The lineup from the conference] Without reviewing the list, these are all people from NGOs, non-governmental organizations. They speak for no one but their organizations if then. These people are no more representative of what they might claim than is David Duke or Simon Wiesenthal. Rather where it the public outrage at UN money being wasted on giving self-important assholes a platform to promote their agendas? -=-=- The 2nd guarantees all the rest.

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Re: Report on UN conference on Internet and racism
by Mikhael Frieden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:33 PM 11/18/97 +0100, Peter Herngaard wrote: >Does the First Amendment prevent the Congress from passing >a law that would make it illegal for anyone who is outside the United >States to set up a web site in the U. S. in violation of a local speechcode? >For example, a German nazi organization could establish a WWW site in >California out of reach of German law. It is not against US law to claim to be or to be a Nazi so the action is legal in the US. >Would it be constitutional to make a law barring foreign citizens from >violating the speech codes of their home countries using a U. S. ISP? The US currently has laws governing foreign ownership of publications in the US. Ted Turner had to become a citizen. Don't remember the details but precedent for publications not intended primarily for US consumption. (A CNN of the future will be an interesting question.) At least by international custom, a person another country is bound by the laws of the country is in. Doing business in the US is bound by the laws of the US. A non-US citizen setting up a website in the US receives the same protections as anyone else doing business in the US. This is a principle of international commerce. As a matter of diplomacy, international conventions, such a law would not be passed. The larger issue is it would incorporate the foreign law into US law and in consequence case law stemming from it. At the moment, on more important issues like taxes, because there is no common tax law, even extradition for tax law violations is not possible. As to the constitutionality of it, strict reading says no. It is difficult to conceive that original intent would have meant Congress could have passed laws prohibiting speaking ill of the King of England. As to the ISP situation. The US has held that if you call for it, it can not be regulated. Dial 1-900-sex4all can not be subject to federal law. The internet is at worst a 900 number by analogy. It can not be legislated against only regulated as to the mechanics of charging and transactions, not content. A lot of words but from what has gone before, no both constitutionally and diplomatically and as a matter of economic policy. -=-=- The 2nd guarantees all the rest.

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Is Tim May a 'felon' under these laws? / Re: Banned smells
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > At 7:51 PM -0700 11/18/97, TruthMonger wrote: > >Having judges, or government officials, go sniff the feedlot apparently > >would give insufficient due process of law; rather, a panel of > >sniffers will develop objective standards on the types of odors and > >their strength. > Here in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, some areas have > been declared "fragrance free." It's a crime to enter these fragrance-free > zones with banned smells. This would explain the cancellation of all flights between DC and Kalifornia. Why didn't Tim May perform a 'citizen's arrest' in Stanford? Failure of nerve, or offsetting penalties? (Punt, Tim, punt!) NotThatI'mATroubleMakerMonger

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Re: Factor a 2048 bit number
by Peter trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Someone styling themselves as "Monty Cantsin" writes: >This number is the product of two large primes: >[big number deleted] >Yet, I believe that an enterprising individual will be able to factor >it. >Monty Cantsin If your belief has any basis in reality, I'd like to hear what it is. Schneier gives estimates for factoring 2048 bit numbers using both the General Number Field Sieve and the Special Number Field Sieve. SNFS is by far the fastest, and with that it would take 4*10^14 MIPS-years. All of the computer power expended in the RSA Symmetric Key Challenges (DES, RC5-56, etc) up to this point amount to, generously, 10^7 MIPS-years. This is only one forty-millionth of power needed. It's been said that 'Those who will not do arithmetic are doomed to speak nonsense.' You are proving the truth of this. RSA has a substantial prize for factoring much smaller numbers. It's estimated, for example, that RSA-155 (about 512 bits), could be factored in 500,000 MIPS-years. Peter Trei ptrei(a)hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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shame on the NSA!
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From the Independent reposting by Banisar: > After nearly 50 years of electronic eavesdropping, the NSA is finding >that some widely available codes are impossible to crack. Time was when the NSA wouldn't allow such a claim to be made in the press much less make it themselves. What's happened to national pride here? Let's go back to the time when the NSA acted smug in the face of civilian encryption. Give me back my good old Amurrican Supermen! - Carl

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