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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:16 PM 5/5/96 -0700, Sandy wrote: >Actually, no. When I used to edit a magazine, I commissioned an >article about how much "tax" slaves, serfs, etc. paid. That is, >how much of what they produced, did they get to keep; how much >went to their masters. The surprising, cross-cultural answer my >researcher/writer found was that they got to keep everthing they >produced except 5-10%. That's a lot better, percentage-wise, >than for modern "tax slaves." It was fairly common for serfs to have to provide direct manual labor on their landlord's farm for 1-2 days per week, depending on the lord, plus of course if there was a war you often got drafted (depending on how much you were needed as a farm laborer.) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215 # goodtimes signature virus innoculation

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Disappearing Cryptography
by hoz＠univel.telescan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A book by Peter Wayner (pcw(a)access.digex.com) of interest to cypherpunks. (OK, cypherpunks mailing list subscribers then) There is more info at Peter's home page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pcw/pcwpage.html but I couldn't get to it when I tried just now. I got my copy from Border's in Houston on Sunday. He describes mimic functions, a particular interest of mine. He also covers basic encryption, error correction, secret sharing, compression, context free grammers, anonymous remailers, reversible computing, etc. There is an evaluation of several stego packages, and an inclusive (there isn't enough published about steganography to call it extensive) bibliography. The presentation is at an introductory, but not trivial level. I wish there had been more technical explanations, but I suppose the author would have lost a sizable fraction of an already tiny audience. By the way, "the people who participate on the cypherpunks mailing list" get a nice "thankyou" in the preface. Rick F. Hoselton (who doesn't claim to present opinions for others)

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Born Classified
by samlb＠baynetworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to "The Codebreakers" (if memory serves me), in about 1943 the U.S. and the U.K. negotiated a BRITUS treaty, the details of which were very secret. I think that this was the original agreement to share the British Enigma cryptography results, and possibly the U.S. nuclear results. Further, I suspect that one of the provisions of the BRITUS treaty was that all of the crypto stuff be treated as if British Law (i.e. the Official Secrets Act) ruled -- everything was secret unless and until the Government said it wasn't any more. This was mildly unconstitutional at the time, but could be gotten past the courts on the excuse that the Constitution defines treaties as "The Highest Law of the Land". It has certainly led to a lot of abuses since, but the bureaucrats love it -- "born classified", indeed! Does anyone on the list have any info -- or references -- that would serve to confirm or deny my guesses? adTHANKSvance samlb(a)baynetworks.com

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Re: Tripwire and SATAN for Linux
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:25 AM 6/13/96 -0700, Steve O wrote: >Hey guys, > Can any one point to where i can get Tripwire and SATAN for Linux? >a friend is in dire need. thanks... >From the notes passed out at Venema and Farmer's "Security Auditing and Risk Analysis" class: Archive locations for important auditing software: COPS http://www.fish.com/security/cops Crack ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/security/ ipsend (part of the IP Filter package) ftp://coombs.an.edu.au/pub/net/kernel/ip-fil3.0.4.tar.gz lsof ftp://coast.cs.perdue.edu/pub/tools/lsof SATAN ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/security/satan.tar.Z Tiger ftp://net.tamu.edu/pub/security/TAMU Also try: CERT ftp://cert.org Gene Spafford http:/coast.cs.perdue.edu Wietse Venma ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/security ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet may fairly be | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | regarded as a never-ending | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | worldwide conversation. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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microcurrency implementation
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

an interesting system that lets people bill for web pages using telephone 800 number technology. ------- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:19:37 -0300 From: Rick McGinnis <rick(a)dragon.mediadial.com> Message-Id: <199606111819.PAA07849(a)dragon.mediadial.com> Via-Web Access now perfected! Instantly bill people over the web through long distance numbers. 1. Paid in US funds for all 90+ countries using the net! 2. Payouts are weekly! 3. Receive $0.25 US for every minute. 4. Easier than any web billing procedure currently used. 5. Everyone has a phone. If you would like to try Via-Web Access, please call... Can and US Dial 011-592-583-423 Other Countries ++592-583-423 The Via-Web Access home page can be found at: http://stsim.com/mdc/viaweb/

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Re: Comments on MicroPayments and the Web
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Mark M." <markm(a)voicenet.com> > I think it would be interesting to see how copyright law will be applied to the > Web if micropayments ever become popular. Would memory or disk caching be > considered fair use? If so, then people could just set up a very large disk > cache and maybe delete it every month or so. It would also be a pretty neat > hack to use a proxy that only cached pages that charged micropayments. > Companies would not make a lot of money from things like this. If disk caching > was not considered to be fair use, people would still turn it on anyway. Where does the money come from to run this proxy? Consider two sites, one which acts as a proxy and cache but which charges something under a penny per page, and another which acts for free. Won't the for-pay site be able to afford a larger disk, more servers, and better net connections? It will be a superior service. Micropayments will allow new services and improved quality over what we have today where we have to rely on charity and advertising as motivations for much of what we find on the web. Hal

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Re: PBS show
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:55 AM 6/14/96 +0000, jonathon wrote: >> And by refusing to build Masatoshi (?) Shima's design for the Z-80, they > > The number one selling computer with a Z-80 chip inside was > also the number one computer platform which ran CP/M which was > The Apple 2e. > > << Yes, the Z-870 chip was a third party add on. >> Two things: 1. Eventually, that claim might have been true. But that's just because there were a large number of smaller-volume CP/M computers such as Altair, IMSAI, CROMEMCO, Northstar, Kaypro, Godbout, Morrow, Heath/Zenith, and numerous others, as well as TRS-80' (Models I, II, and II; most of which ran TRSDOS instead of CPM) which cumulatively added up to a number vastly larger than Apple-II/Z-80 installations. And I don't want to leave out the "Big Board" Z-80 computer, which put everything on a single large PCB, which was about a 1980 product. Or, for that matter, Sinclair's ZX-80 (?) 2. If anything, the popularity of the Z-80 processor for the Apple revealed just how bad the 6502 and associated Apple software was. People don't generally change (add-in) microprocessors if they're satisfied with the underlying computer and available software. In fact, it's even worse, because the one advantage of the Apple was its color display, while none of the CP/M software being run on the Z-80 card in the Apple knew about color. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: PBS show
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>WELllllll Id hate to say.... but after coming across A LOT of different users >from both systems.. It has seemed to me that... IN GENERAL, Mac users are >more computer 'illiterate' seeing as the mac's ease of use. Fine for the >everyday person... but not for me. >Secondly.....as far os the computers software are concerned...... Not much >beats winNT => windows=> PC >THe chips arent 'too' much different. and that leaves me to say..... There's >more PC's out there... which seeing as whats presented..... Leads me to >thinks PC's are 'better' in my eyes. >So... how baout those mets? > > Well I am now using a PC, I use a MAc for programming and both for networking& the internet. So as usual I am plastered as a 13 year old "computer illiterate" thanks real big confidence booster. I love my pc & my mac, I also love my Apple II it showed me the way of programming (first with basic), now I program in C and C++. Oh yea I guess I'm still computer illiterate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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Re:
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:33 AM 6/15/96 -0400, Michael Camp wrote: > >I just subscribed and what the hey is pgp. Pretty good privacy? > > >-Think global, act local, recycle! >Michael Camp >a037716t(a)bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > > > Good thinking swiffty Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> URL: http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html "World's Youngest Cypherpunk" Age 13

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Zimmerman/Viacrypt
by Edgar Swank 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Steve Reid recently posted (and sent me an Email copy - thanks Steve), > Phil disagrees with ViaCrypts new "business" version of PGP which > apparently encrypts all messages with an employer-supplied public key > in addition to any specified by the employee. Looking at Denning's critique (pro-escrow rant) of the NCR crypto report, she mentioned that mutant version: [http://www.cosc.georgetown.edu/~denning/crypto/NRC.txt] "Other corporations are similarly adopting products with data recovery capabilities as they integrate encryption into their systems (even PGP comes with data recovery in Viacrypt's Business Edition)." IMHO Phil Zimmerman has good reason to object to the mutant version, if it's going to cause the PGP name to somehow endorse escrow. Denning is being disengenuous (so what's new). There's a big difference between voluntary, not-government-sponsored "escrow" like the type in the "business version" of ViaCrypt, and what Denning and her friends in the government TLA's want. Seems to me an employer has a perfect right to monitor his employee's work product, for which he's being paid a salary and using the employer's equipment (like business PGP). If the employee doesn't like it, he's free to seek employment elsewhere (or start his own business). Or he's free to encrypt all his personal Email at home with a personal copy of ViaCrypt or a copy of free PGP. -- edgar(a)Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Edgar Swank) The Land of Garg BBS -- +1 408 378-5108

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