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Material support to terrorists "concealing or disguising?"
by Aimee Farr 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

[Any previous discussion of this? Summary/Conclusions?] Sec. 2339A. (FOOTNOTE 1) Providing material support to terrorists (a) Offense. - Whoever, within the United States, provides material support or resources or conceals or disguises the nature, location, source, or ownership of material support or resources, knowing or intending that they are to be used in preparation for, or in carrying out, a violation of section 32, 37, 81, 175, 351, 831, 842(m) or (n), 844(f) or (i), 930(c), 956, 1114, 1116, 1203, 1361, 1362, 1363, 1366, 1751, 1992, 2155, 2156, 2280, 2281, 2332, 2332a, 2332b, 2332c, [2] or 2340A of this title or section 46502 of title 49, or in preparation for, or in carrying out, the concealment or an escape from the commission of any such violation, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (b) Definition. - In this section, the term ''material support or resources'' means currency or other financial securities, financial services, lodging, training, safehouses, false documentation or identification, communications equipment, facilities, weapons, lethal substances, explosives, personnel, transportation, and other physical assets, except medicine or religious materials. (d) Extraterritorial Jurisdiction. - There is extraterritorial Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section. Sec. 2339B. Providing material support or resources to designated foreign terrorist organizations (a) Prohibited Activities. - (1) Unlawful conduct. - Whoever, within the United States or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, knowingly provides material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. (4) the term ''material support or resources'' has the same meaning as in section 2339A; .. (6) the term ''terrorist organization'' means an organization designated as a terrorist organization under section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

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Israel Shamir: Orient Express (fwd)
by !Dr. Joe Baptista 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:51:51 -0500 (CDT) From: MSANEWS <msanews(a)msa-natl.org> To: msanews(a)lists.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Israel Shamir: Orient Express ____________________________________________________________________________ __ __________ _ _______ ______ / |/ / __/ _ | / |/ / __/ | /| / / __/ / /|_/ /\ \/ __ |/ / _/ | |/ |/ /\ \ /_/ /_/___/_/ |_/_/|_/___/ |__/|__/___/ Support MSANEWS, a project of learning and enlightenment "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste" -- Martin Luther King ____________________________________________________________________________ Source: Direct Submission Organization: ALAQSA INTIFADA . org Email: info(a)alaqsaintifada.org Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:34:02 -0700 Title: Orient Express TEXT: Note: Although this article of Sept. 12 is a little outdated by new findings, it certainly offers food for thought! _____ Orient Express By Israel Shamir Like the Four Riders of the Apocalypse, the unknown kamikaze rode their giant crafts into the two visible symbols of American world domination, Wall Street and the Pentagon. They vanished in flames and smoke, and we do not yet know who they were. They could be practically anybody: American Nationalists, American Communists, American Fundamentalist Christians, American Anarchists, anybody who rejects the twin gods of the dollar and the M-16, who hates the stock market and interventions overseas, who dreams of America for Americans, who does not want to support the drive for world domination. They could be Native Americans returning to Manhattan, or Afro-Americans who still have not received compensation for slavery. They could be foreigners of practically any extraction, as Wall Street and the Pentagon ruined many lives of people all over the globe. Germans can remember the fiery holocaust of Dresden with its hundreds of thousands of peaceful refugees incinerated by the US Air Force. Japanese will not forget the nuclear holocaust of Hiroshima. The Arab world still feels the creeping holocaust of Iraq and Palestine. Russians and East Europeans feel the shame of Belgrade avenged. Latin Americans think of American invasions of Panama and Granada, of destroyed Nicaragua and defoliated Colombia. Asians count their dead of Vietnam war, Cambodia bombings, Laos CIA operations in millions. Even a pro-American, Russian TV broadcaster could not refrain from saying, `now Americans begin to understand the feelings of Baghdad and Belgrade'. The Riders could be anybody who lost his house to the bank, who was squeezed from his work and made permanently unemployed, who was declared an Untermensch by the new Herrenvolk. They could be Russians, Malaysians, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Congolese, as their economy was destroyed by Wall Street and the Pentagon. They could be anybody, and they are everybody. Their identity is quite irrelevant, but the Jews already decided: it has to be Arabs. One would think, after Oklahoma, we should become less hasty with our conclusions. But my countrymen, Israeli politicians are impatient folk. The flames in Manhattan did not die out yet, they started political profit taking. Mr Ehud Barak came live on BBC, and said `Arafat' within three minutes flat. On CNN, his twin Bibi Natanyahu appropriated the blame to Arabs, Muslims, Palestinians. Shimon Peres, an old wizened wizard, spoke against suicide as a psychiatric adviser, reminding his audience of Palestinian attacks. He looked worried: it is hard to enslave people who are not afraid to die. This old killer of Kana even mentioned Gospels. Density of Israelis on the air approached the saturation point. They insinuated and incited, pushing their shopping list into a chalk-white face of shell-shocked America: please, destroy Iran! And Iraq! And Libya, plees! The first twenty four hours of maximal exposure were utilised by the Jewish propaganda machine to its utmost. Not a single fact was yet known, but racist anti-Arab slurs became a commonplace. While we Jews quite reasonably object to any reference to the Jewishness of a bad guy, we really do not mind producing revolting racist drivel of our own. A good Jewish-American activist, James Jordan, warned in al-Awda: "Making broad, all-inclusive statements and insinuations about "Jews" completely marginalizes and discredits your organization". But how come the endless stream of 'broad, all-inclusive statements and insinuations', about 'the Arabs' did not 'completely marginalized and discredited' the Jewish organisations and media who practice it? Apparently, it is a Jewish right to decide who will be marginalized in America and who will not. The connection was in the minds. The American Jewish supremacists want to turn all the world into Palestine, where the natives will enjoy harsh local rule and limited local rights, while the master race will have a rather different level of life. Israel is just a small-scale model of their new brave world of globalisation. As there were no hard facts against Palestinians, the Israelis made their damnedest from the scenes of joy shot in East Jerusalem. It is a rather weak point, and I'll tell you why. In Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express, her favourite detective M. Poireau encounters an unusual complication: all passengers on board the train have had a good reason to bump off the unpleasant old lady. My dear American friends, your leaders placed your great country into the old lady's shoes. Israelis used the event to the max. They even killed some ten Palestinians and destroyed five Goyiish houses in Jerusalem. The reports were rather gleeful, in the style `we told you', and the experts of Israeli TV concluded by one o'clock, the attack `was good for the Jews'. Why? It would strengthen American support of Israel. The kamikaze attack could do exactly that. America could enter a new cycle of violence in its troubled relations with the world. Revenge will follow revenge, until one of the sides will be obliterated by nuclear blast. It appears president Bush prefers this course. He declared war on his and Israel's adversaries. Bush did not even understand that the war was declared by the US many years ago, only now it started to come home. So many people are sick of America's ham-fisted approach, that the countdown for the next attack began. Alternatively, America could see this painful strike at her Wall Street and her Pentagon, as the last call to repent. She should change her advisers, and build her relations with the world afresh, on equal footing. Probably she should rule in the domination-obsessed Jewish supremacist elites of Wall Street and media, part company with the apartheid Jewish state. She could become again the universally loved, rather parochial America of Walt Whitman and Thomas Edison, Henry Ford and Abe Lincoln. 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AT&T Switch operational in basement of WTC (fwd)
by baptista＠pccf.net 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

-- The dot.GOD Registry, Limited http://www.dot-god.com/ Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom AT&T equipment survived trade center collapse =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= PHILADELPHIA, Sept 12 (Reuters) - AT&T Corp. (NYSE:T - news), the No. 1 U.S. long-distance telephone and cable television company, said its communications network carried a flood of heavy calling volume on Wednesday, but remained unharmed after its equipment survived the collapse of the World Trade Center. Calling volume on "the network is running about about 20 percent above a typical Wednesday morning," AT&T spokesman Dave Johnson said. "There's heavy inbound surge to the New York and Washington areas and some network congestion, but nothing like yesterday." AT&T handles about 300 million voice telephone calls a day. It carried 431 million calls on Tuesday as customers flooded the telephone lines in the wake of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, making it the heaviest business day in the company's network history, Johnson said. AT&T's local network switching equipment, which routes telephone calls, was located in the basement of the World Trade Center towers and survived the implosion of the buildings, Johnson said. "It appears the equipment has survived ... It was up and alive and still providing dial tone by 4 o'clock yesterday afternoon. Once the back-up batteries ran out, we took them offline, but the equipment is still working," Johnson said. "We were amazed," he said. "It was several stories under ground and all I can say is that they must have built up that basement very sturdy.'' The switching equipment handled calls for AT&T business customers in Lower Manhattan. The company rerouted calls and suffered no network outages, Johnson said. AT&T will retrieve the equipment once it gets approval from New York City and disaster teams to approach the rubble of the World Trade Center. The New York-based company said none of its employees were injured or killed in the attacks.

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[Fwd: Great article about afghanistan/taliban/bin laden] (fwd)
by baptista＠pccf.net 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Here is a good article originally posted to nanog which is a good write up on afganistan and the horros which await. -- The dot.GOD Registry, Limited http://www.dot-god.com/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:32:41 -0700 From: Imran Qureshi <qureshi(a)cisco.com> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: [Fwd: Great article about afghanistan/taliban/bin laden] One of our colleague posted the following article and it really shows the plight of the real afghans. Regards, Imran > > > Dear Friends, > > > The following was sent to me by my friend Tamim Ansary. Tamim is > >an Afghani-American writer. He is also one of the most brilliant people > >I know in this life. When he writes, I read. When he talks, I listen. > >Here is his take on Afghanistan and the whole mess we are in. > > > -Gary T. > > > > > > > > > Dear Gary and whoever else is on this email thread: > > > > > > I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to > >the Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this > >would mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with > >this atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. > >What else can we do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing > >whether we "have the belly to do what must be done." > > And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because > >I am from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've > >never lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who > >will listen how it all looks from where I'm standing. > >I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no > >doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity > >in New York. I agree that something must be done about those monsters. > >But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even > >the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant > >psychotics > >who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal > >with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin > >Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think > >"the Jews in the concentration camps." It's not only that the Afghan > >people had nothing to do with this atrocity. > >They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if > >someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats > >nest of international thugs holed up in their country. > > Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The > >answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. > >A few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 > >disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food. > > > There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these > >widows alive in mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the > >farms were all destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons > >why the Afghan people have not overthrown the Taliban. > > >We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone > >Age. Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already. > >Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? > >Done. Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their > >hospitals? Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from >medicine > >and health care? Too late. Someone already did all that. > > > > > New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at > >least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the >Taliban > >eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. > >Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't > >move too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul > >and dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals > >who did this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common > >cause with the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been > >raping all this time > > > So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with > >true fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there > >with ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what > >needs to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill > >as many as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about > >killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's > >actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some > >Americans > >would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout. > > It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to > >Afghanistan, > >we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they > >let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. > >Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're > >flirting with a world war between Islam and the West. > > And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he >wants. > >That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right > >there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem > >ridiculous, > >but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, > >he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those > >lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even > >better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end > >the west would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last > >for years and millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the > >belly for that? Bin Laden does. Anyone else? > > > > > Tamim Ansary

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No Subject
by citizenQ 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Reading the discussion I see that the amendment calls for inclusion of 'terrorist activies' into Title III which allows wiretapping under Court order, not anything about warrantless wiretapping. I did not perform all the text substitutions of the amemdment itself though. However in the language of the amendment all references that I read are to activities under court order. Please indicate the wider circumstances, particularly the warrantless circumstances, that this amendment allows cybertapping under, for those of us without your time or acumen in editing the existing Title III language. You also did not quote this: "One of the most effective investigative tools at the disposal of law enforcement agencies is the ability to go to a Federal judge and get wiretapping authority. It is critical in matters such as this. That is the ability to intercept oral or electronic conversations involving the subject of a criminal investigation. The legislative scheme that provides this authority, and at the same time protects the individual liberties of American citizens to be secure against unwarranted government surveillance, is referred to in the criminal code as Title III. Among the many protections inherent in Title III is that only the investigations of certain criminal offenses, those judged to be sufficiently serious to warrant the use of this potent crime-fighting weapon, are eligible for wiretapping orders. The law lays out a number of crimes deemed by Congress to be serious enough to warrant allowing the FBI to intercept electronic and oral communications. Title III currently allows interception of communications in connection with the investigation of such crimes as mail fraud, wire fraud, and the interstate transportation of stolen property. Inexplicably, however, the Federal terrorism statutes are not currently included in Title III. I have been complaining about this for a long time and this is the time to correct it." >>Text of the Hatch-Feinstein "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001": >http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html > >Discussion of the amendment: >http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s091301.html > >-Declan >> >******** > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html > > Senate OKs FBI Net Spying > By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) > 12:55 p.m. Sep. 14, 2001 PDT > > WASHINGTON -- FBI agents soon may be able to spy on Internet users > legally without a court order. > > On Thursday evening, two days after the worst terrorist attack in U.S. >> history, the Senate approved the "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001," > which enhances police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more > situations. > > The measure, proposed by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Dianne Feinstein > (D-California), says any U.S. attorney or state attorney general can > order the installation of the FBI's Carnivore surveillance system. > Previously, there were stiffer restrictions on Carnivore and other > Internet surveillance techniques. > > Its bipartisan sponsors argue that such laws are necessary to thwart > terrorism. "It is essential that we give our law enforcement > authorities every possible tool to search out and bring to justice > those individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death into our > backyard," Hatch said during the debate on the Senate floor. > [...]

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14 Sep '01

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Cnet blaming Declan
by Lucky Green 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

This Cnet show keeps getting better. The host is now quoting Declan's article, stating that fortunately Declan's "affectionatos" are not in charge. And apparently an "An Metet" has emailed him a death thread... The host, David Lawrence, read the death thread on the air. This is on the air right now. Call (800) 39-ONLINE. Call if you disagree that strong crypto should be banned in the US. --Lucky [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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Re: The Winds of War
by Nomen Nescio 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Tim May, a notoriously bad prognosticator (remember the "Thanksgiving Surprise"?) writes: > Here's what I expect will happen in the coming weeks: > > * a massive military attack on Afghanistan and possibly "rebel bases" in > many parts of the Mideast Yes, most people expect this. > * a series of hastily-passed new laws restricting communications (with > remailers targeted specifically because they by their nature are not in > "compliance" with CALEA) Very unlikely as far as the remailers. It looks like there may be some proposals for crypto limitations, but it will be a hard fight. Every interested party who fought last time will be dusting off their old arguments. Cryptographers like Matt Blaze and others have already made their intentions clear on the crypto mailing list. > * on the day the war begins, next week or in the weeks thereafter, a > series of raids on those operating remailers, those who have identified > these repressive measures, and those who have spoken against the > American Jihad or who have publically opined that the WTC bombing > resembles the Reichstag Fire Absolutely not. Completely absurd. You must have forgotten to take your anti paranoia pills again. As for the Reichstag Fire, for the history impaired this was an attack secretly engineered by the Nazis to give them an excuse to seize power. The implication is that the United States government arranged for the WTC attack! Only someone in the grips of clinical paranoia could make such a suggestion. Tim May is really losing it now. > * these raids will be done in the usual pre-dawn, ninja-clad storm > trooper way: flash-bangs, shoot anything that appears to move, put the > perps _down_! Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their keys. Both have about equal chances of reality. If the government really does care about remailers, chances are Carnivore is already more than up to the task. Cryptographic analyses have shown many times how weak the current remailer network is. See below for a list of attacks on remailers from the guys at Zero-Knowledge. Add in the ability to penetrate systems and steal their keys and the remailer network provides far from terrorist-grade security. Far better for the spooks to leave the network running and provide the illusion of security in the hopes that criminals will trust it. If they take it down they'll just drive the terrorists further underground. > * many of those arrested in the raids may not actually be prosecuted, as > even pliable courts will find little or no constitutional basis for > prosecution, though some fraction will die while "resisting arrest" (a > few highly-publicized "barricade situations," a la Waco, should help > with the terror campaign) The United States government has no interest in killing remailer operators! Please try to keep some semblance of a grip on reality. > * those not arrested, shut down, kicked off their ISPs, or killed will > be driven underground, or, in most cases, will "promise not to do it > again" and will meekly become the Carnivore Administrators for their > systems See above, there are better solutions to remailers from the point of view of law enforcement. Yes, Carnivore may be part of the plan, but there's no reason for the remailer operator to know about it. > * Robb London and Jeff Gordon and their ilk will be promoted to new > positions within the National Unity Government and will be asked to > detail their successful prosecutions of notorious cypherpunk terrrorists Even as fantasy, this is deteriorating... > * Congress will hold endless hearings reminiscent of the House > Un-American Activities Committee hearings. Activists and crypto > advocates will receive subpoenas. The media, even the newly-fascist tech > media, will villify them. Starring... Tim May, of course. It is sad that this once brilliant mind has been reduced by isolation and bitterness into constructing these paranoid fantasies. > * Someday, perhaps in 20 years, wiser heads will realize that shredding > the Constitution in support of some Zionists who pushed Arabs (called > "sand niggers") off of their lands was not a good idea. There are already many voices warning against weakening the Constitution. You won't have to wait 20 years for sanity to prevail. > War is coming. Against us, against liberty, against the Constitution. War is coming, against Afghanistan and other Arab organizations. On that part you were right. The rest of it is just your paranoid ravings. > If I stop posting in the coming weeks, you'll know why. Because you'll be embarrassed to have been proven wrong once again? === A few kinds of remailer attacks: Brute Force Attack Node Flushing Attack (aka Spam Attack) Timing Attack Communication Pattern Attack Packet Counting Attack Intersection Attack Denial of Service Attack User Reaction Attack Sting Attack Distinguished Message Attack Message Delaying Attack Message Tagging Attack

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Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carnivore use
by Declan McCullagh 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Text of the Hatch-Feinstein "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001": http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html Discussion of the amendment: http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s091301.html -Declan ******** http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html Senate OKs FBI Net Spying By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) 12:55 p.m. Sep. 14, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- FBI agents soon may be able to spy on Internet users legally without a court order. On Thursday evening, two days after the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, the Senate approved the "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001," which enhances police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more situations. The measure, proposed by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Dianne Feinstein (D-California), says any U.S. attorney or state attorney general can order the installation of the FBI's Carnivore surveillance system. Previously, there were stiffer restrictions on Carnivore and other Internet surveillance techniques. Its bipartisan sponsors argue that such laws are necessary to thwart terrorism. "It is essential that we give our law enforcement authorities every possible tool to search out and bring to justice those individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death into our backyard," Hatch said during the debate on the Senate floor. [...]

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