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by Jim Choate 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

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Outlawing general purpose computers *is* feasible
by Major Variola (ret) 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

At 09:31 PM 7/1/02 -0700, Tim May wrote: >> Unfortunately it is being introduced at the same time as there is >> legislation proposed, the SSSCA, to outlaw general purpose >> computers > >Anyone who believes this, or even repeats it as a rumor, is on drugs. > >I have half a dozen computers, all usable in various ways. Not even in a >Chinese-type police state could these legally-acquired computers, >acquired for a lot of money, be declared "outlawed." Substitute "assault rifle" for "computer" and think about it, Tim. Or substitute "japanese american"... First you register them. Then declare them a public threat. Then you confiscate. Buying up your old-style computers will be cheap for the government. Most of the sheeple will be happy to unload them. What, you didn't register your Lisa? Better not use it online, your ISP will be required to check for a registration cert issued by the State. > Saying that general purpose computers lacking TCPA/DRM will be >"outlawed" is silly. Right, and a bayonet lug can't lead to a felony... And the sheeple can't be led to believe that "unpoliced" computers are used by terrorists and pirates bent on undermining the Amerikan ekonomy (tm)... Ah, to be as optimistic as Tim May on a fine summer day..

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RE: "to outlaw general purpose computers"
by Trei, Peter 02 Jul '02

02 Jul '02

> Tim May[SMTP:tcmay@got.net] > > > > Unfortunately it is being introduced at the same time as there is > > legislation proposed, the SSSCA, to outlaw general purpose > > computers > > Anyone who believes this, or even repeats it as a rumor, is on drugs. > > I have half a dozen computers, all usable in various ways. Not even in a > Chinese-type police state could these legally-acquired computers, > acquired for a lot of money, be declared "outlawed." > > Not even counting your computers, and my computers, and 500 million > computers already out in the U.S. alone, there are the designs of > processors like Pentium 4, Athlon, McKinley, Thoroughbred, Duron, etc., > _none_ of which are of this Valenti-friendly TCPA form. None of the > hundreds of millions of systems now being prepared for sale are of this > form. Saying that general purpose computers lacking TCPA/DRM will be > "outlawed" is silly. > > --Tim May > Tim is both right and wrong. It's almost unthinkable that he or anyone else will be asked to turn in their old hardware. But 'They' don't have to. All that needs to be done is to mandate that all *new* hardware have the TCPA/DRM hobbles. Moore's law will do the rest. Sure, people can swap old Babylon 5 episodes on DIVX for as long as they want, but Moore's law will have stopped for uncrippled machines - Want to interact with full immersion VR 1Mpixel x 1Mpixel games and dramas with serious AI? How about full-sensorium telepresence? Those ain't gonna run on your 2 GHz Pentium, any more than you can run Descent 3 or Netscape on your VIC-20. You'll want, and need the newest 30 GHz machines, and guess what? They *all* have TCPA/DRM. Peter Trei

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