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Re: Digital Fingerprinting
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:28 PM 9/15/95 +5, you wrote: >Another way is to place the document in a PItA proprietary graphical >format for transport and viewing only, stego identifier imbedded if >you chose * , so that every portion of the document has some >indentifier imbedded in it. Many obvious and many devious. Electronic >drawings with a harmless and useless circuit(s) added on , software >with do nothing code (by design!:) ). Difficult and time consuming >to do, but for megabuck items, no prob. Automated for an additional >fee of course. Start a service industry for such, make money, pay me >back by running a fast, reliable remailer. I seem to remember a software piracy case from a number of years back. The case was settled by Apple showing that their code had been copied by the copyright "easteregg" hidden in the roms. Made for a quick and effective demonstration in court. (The story may be apocryphal, but it makes for an example as to how such things do have a (supposed) valid use in protecting code from being snagged by other companies.) | Minister of Forced Caffinization in the DNRC | alano(a)teleport.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmerman unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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HRT_web
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

9-16-95. NYPaper Page Oner: "Computer Stings Gain Favor As Arrests for Smut Increase." The F.B.I. has plans for its own web to fight computer crimes. As arrests continued in a high-tech drive against the peddling of child pornography on the nation's largest computer network, the Federal authorities said today that they expected to apply the same surveillance techniques to fight many other computer-related crimes, from consumer and securities fraud to money laundering. One way of combating these crimes, they said, will be for Federal agents to go undercover and appear as prey for unwitting criminals. Timothy McNally of the F.B.I.said that while the traditional form of surveillance included activities like waiting in cars and watching suspects for hours, "the playing field has now changed" and now requires agents to become more proficient in using computers to thwart crimes. But some civil liberties experts expressed alarm at the latest surveillance technique, saying it would have a chilling effect on what is now a freewheeling medium. HRT_web (9 kb)

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Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful
by David C. Lambert 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Peter Trei <trei(a)process.com> wrote: > Terms like 'cypherpunk' and 'cryptoanarchy' tend to pigeonhole us as > nutcases for many people, and are a barrier to getting our ideas > across. I'm not saying this pigeonholing is correct - in fact I despise > people who judge a book by it's cover, but so many people DO make such > snap judgements that we need to take this into account when talking to > the general public. Two of the responses to the "An opportunity..." post unapologetically admitted that they refused to read the text of the message due to the presence of the word "cypherpunk" in the first sentence. Shows you what we're up against. BTW, I'm not for changing the name of the list, but I do see the logic in a more establishment-friendly name to use when lobbying the public. David C. Lambert dcl(a)panix.com (finger for PGP public key) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMFneAqpplsfgM88VAQE+5wP9GZrIoComyFDeQ6brTLJwZ2oamry3IfC7 XhlqMlAZnC2b1w521nm085nZKtO9/Ru9Fw3BllPinG8nGcBggr9zkH4Ba+Zbezh0 FKK29d7wFGQz1d5JfyYCZhl4dTBdbpnU4jd5Rb27XtvP9livAeR/HIwNAJMccSCX qO/kxlVRRZg= =1Lxr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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(Noise) X-Files anarchist
by dsc＠swcp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hardly watch TV ...blah, blah..., but I saw X-files last night. A very minor character was a cryptohacker who--to his surprise--brute-forced a military key for some files. He was described as an anarchist. To _my_ surprise, this anarchist was not associated with violence or lunatic ravings. He was shown as reading a book entitled something like Survey of Modern Conspiracy Theories. I see this as an improvement in the stereotype of computer-associated anarchists. And this I see as a good thing, since I think there is a lot that could be learned from anarchists. I think the character was killed, but I may have missed something. Dar =========================================================== Dar Scott Home phone: +1 505 299 9497 Dar Scott Consulting Voice: +1 505 299 5790 8637 Horacio Place NE Email: darscott(a)aol.com Albuquerque, NM 87111 dsc(a)swcp.com Fax: +1 505 898 6525 http://www.swcp.com/~correspo/DSC/DarScott.html ===========================================================

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[Howard Winter: PGP 2.6 available on magazine cover]
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- An interesting comentary on the effectiveness of ITAR... Zeke - ------- Forwarded Message Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,connect.audit From: hdrw(a)ibmpcug.co.uk (Howard Winter) Subject: PGP 2.6 available on magazine cover X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group. Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 23:22:23 GMT Message-ID: <CuwrLD.M6v(a)ibmpcug.co.uk> In case anyone's interested, the magazine PC Answers (issue 7, Sept 94) here in England has a copy of PGP 2.6 on a cover disk, along with the Windows front end: PGP WinFront from Ross Barclay. This appears to be the 'plain' version, no suffix. If it wasn't supposed to be exported from the USA, it's leaked in a big way! According to the RSA and MIT licences included, it's available for any non-commercial use. Looks like I'll start using PGP in earnest. Has anyone any advice on how to get my public key 'trusted', since I don't know anyone else who already has a trusted key? Similarly, how do I know when to trust keys I receive, given that I have no keys yet that I 'trust'? Cheers, - -- Howard Winter hdrw(a)ibmpcug.Co.UK CIS: 100111,1420 0W21' 51N43' - ------- End of Forwarded Message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLlrM2xVg/9j67wWxAQGA9AP/fEruPVpNMdjP0SV54o7uD5YqJXplXsjE JZpCBQ/2EJn3ZQfvf0Ow3aSfSX1QyoDKCIeKj6Tj55pz96wFOUXa4REByNLimN/V Ob7MIql9fGcM8vC2iG0PZhtbii8iNr+Wk9QBSIMx26EDUrqR36gz/e5nqrf3tlxw 9FRwNj7PgSw= =EKt9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Arnold Bowker and John Joslin vs. Privacy
by hroller Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Case Could End Anonymity of Computer Network Users" by Brian Bergstein (Associated Press) Anonymity and freedom of speech in cyberspace are being challenged by a Caribbean resort owner in a court case that could dramatically restrict the rights of computer network users. The resort owner and scuba instructor claim that they were defamed on a computer bulletin board by an anonymous user, and they asked a judge this week to force America Online to reveal the name of the subscriber so they can sue the person for libel. If Arnold Bowker and John Joslin are successful in obtaining the name, it could have serious implications for millions of people who use the Internet to think, write and debate in a world where they are identified by their ideas, not their names. Technology experts fear a morass of court cases that would hold computer users accountable for what they say anonymously. "What this case brings up is the specter of millions of libel suits every time there's a disagreement on the Internet," said Daniel Weitzner of the Center for Democracy and Technology in Washington. "I think it's a critical issue." Several calls seeking comment from officials at America Online were not immediately returned Friday. Abraham Haddad, chairman of the computer science department at Northwestern University, said the anonymity of cyberspace should be maintained as long as it was not being used to commit a crime. "There's really a need to protect people's privacy as long as no laws have been broken," Haddad said.

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Anon Mail Sources of Remailers Keys
by nobody＠kaiwan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Can someone post again the source for the various cypherpunks remailers public keys? I assume they are all in one file somewhere (likely on berkeley.edu) thats ftp'able.

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Re: (Noise) X-Files anarchist
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:56 PM 9/16/95, Dar Scott wrote: >I hardly watch TV ...blah, blah..., but I saw X-files last night. A very >minor character was a cryptohacker who--to his surprise--brute-forced a >military key for some files. He was described as an anarchist. > >To _my_ surprise, this anarchist was not associated with violence or >lunatic ravings. He was shown as reading a book entitled something like >Survey of Modern Conspiracy Theories. I see this as an improvement in the >stereotype of computer-associated anarchists. And this I see as a good >thing, since I think there is a lot that could be learned from anarchists. Vince Foster was technical advisor to "The X-Files." The NSA had him killed at Fort Darcy because he was getting too close to the Bilderbergers and their control of the secret UFO technology first given to the Nazis and then transferred to Winnemucca, Nevada as part of Operation Paperclip. The pilot who flew Bush in an SR-71 to negotiate with the Iranians to delay the release of the hostages and so defeat Carter in 1980 is also the author of "Nomenclature of a Conspiracy Cabal," one of the books shown in that episode. President Clinton, at the Underground White House near Edwards Air Force Base, OKed the hit on Foster, even though "The X-Files" was one of his favorite shows. The Greys must be appeased. --Klaus! von Future Prime, who actually has several dozen books on these and similar subjects

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Re: Digital Fingerprinting
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:57 AM 9/16/95, Alan Olsen wrote: >I seem to remember a software piracy case from a number of years back. The >case was settled by Apple showing that their code had been copied by the >copyright "easteregg" hidden in the roms. Made for a quick and effective >demonstration in court. (The story may be apocryphal, but it makes for an >example as to how such things do have a (supposed) valid use in protecting >code from being snagged by other companies.) And someone just cited the same (or very similar) example, where the "quick and effective demonstration" nevertheless resulted (they said) in an acquittal. So, which way did it go? --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: "alt.cypherpunks" Newsgroup vs. Mailing List?
by dmandl＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:33 PM 9/16/95, hallam(a)w3.org wrote: >>Should there be an "alt.cypherpunks" type of newsgroup instead of this >>mailing list? > >Bad idea, it would simply mean that every kook on USEnet would add >alt.cypherpunks onto the crossposting line. We would have black >helicopters, gun >loons, Waco Wako's, Loonytarians and turkish government propaganda spamming >forever. A lot of people on the list seem to see it as a corporation that has to show X% growth for its shareholders every year. The list is a healthy size, and there are a lot of very bright people on it with very good ideas (a lot of the best people and best ideas in the field, in fact). Traffic is pretty high, too. I don't see any reason to try to increase our market share just for the sake of it. Even worse, it seems to me that what some people are suggesting (and this comes up at least once a year) will lead to increased entropy, with us, the EFF, EPIC, etc., etc., blending into one amorphous lobbying blob. This is a unique list of people doing VERY IMPORTANT work that no one else is doing. To tell you the truth, I think that to date cypherpunks have left a much greater mark on the world than the EFF and all of the others. No question about it. Again (as others have said over and over), if people are concerned about better lobbying, this isn't the place for it--and the good news for you is that there are plenty of other groups with the resources, staff, and mission to do it. So what's the problem? If you're embarrassed mentioning our name to your straight friends, c'est la vie. I wish I could show my boss my brilliant article in the new issue of ANARCHY, but I can't. --Dave. -- Dave Mandl dmandl(a)panix.com http://wfmu.org/~davem

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