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FIXED SEC. EDIT, SEC. EDIT SOURCE, UPGRADE PATCH
by tjb＠acpub.duke.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have uploaded a fixed version of both secure edit and source code to ripem.msu.edu in the directory pub/crypt/mac. I have also uploaded a 35k patch that will update your b0.5 to b0.6. There are also some other minor bugfixes rolled into this b0.6 update. Again, sincere apologies for the bug (it was my fault), and I earnestly hope no data was compromised by it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLzMx/1uwJA7oL8O9AQHHegP9FPCkO2fVO54Vm3kDTsJH+1SW5Iui3wTS F4BvZ0CSzJTw8K15oYOVnVbYcqofoOe5DvmR4ex1kK7zPObicfwLeIQbcvnRbBuI 0xpk+ymOMgOzjd9ySusXNuTCuwomQHXD4jTuyEsU+QrT6FEkmUJjA+TtctAZu7JX nbZGDtOD/18= =xKnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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AIR Mosaic Feedback Mail
by rchcnslt＠epix.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mail sent from AIR Mosaic (16-bit) version 3.07.04.02 howdy.. Cyperpuk, life and all that.. Lemme in on the cool poop! Rick R.

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Re: Is the remailer crisis over?
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Well folks as of 11:30 on 1-30-94 there are 14 remailers with uptimes > greater than 99%. What's the consensus...Is the remailer crisis over? The "remailers are broken" crisis may be over, but until there are a lot of remailers in service, and 14 isn't a lot, with a lot of traffic on them, remailers won't be a very effective security tool. If the Bad Guys wanted to watch all 14 remailers, it'd probably not be hard to figure out which messages came from which senders, just because there aren't enough for real tracking. If the Bad Guys decided to confiscate 14 remailers, they could do it. If your machine got busted or sued for sending an anonymous message somebody didn't like, and you contended that you're a remailer and there was no way to prove it originated on your machine, "they" could respond that you're not one of the 14 well-known remailers and if you were "they" would have been watching you because they watch every machine that talks to the well-known remailers, and you're not one of them. As the folks in the nuclear-war planning business say, fewer than 100 of anything isn't reliable. Bill

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Re: VoicePGP cracked in 10 minutes?...
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > I heard a rumor hear in Ctl. Tx. that the VoicePGP project was cracked in the > > last couple of days in approx. 10 minutes. Anyone have any info on this other > > than one of those wild rumors that occur? > > Considering that VoicePGP hasn't even been released, this is > fascinating news. Perhaps the same team could work next on cracking > things that haven't even been invented yet. Cracking VoicePGP is easy, since it's still a bones version without the encryption installed yet - anybody who can figure out where to get the software should be able to do it. Might take more than 10 minutes to do that :-) However, the rumor mostly sounded like a pro-active version of the "NSA cracked PGP" version of the FBI Modem Tax on Religious Broadcasting put out by Madeline Murray O'Shergold.

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re to hfinney
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hal sez: : Perl does exist for ms-dos, and I think those scripts would probably work : OK there. They don't do anything exotic, just some byte reads and : writes. Maybe the random-number generation would need to be looked at; : as I said, that is the one weak part. But probably they would work OK. kool . could you please repost the scripts , i seem to have misplaced them. also , where can i get perl for dos , any idea ? tia .

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Re: re to hfinney
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com > kool . could you please repost the scripts , i seem to have misplaced them. > also , where can i get perl for dos , any idea ? tia . Rather than re-post them, I put a copy of my message up for ftp at the cypherpunks ftp site. <URL: ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/incoming/pgppad.scr >

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Re: to hfinney
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com > mr finney , do you know if that perl prog of yours to add stuff to .pgp > files can be ported to messy dos ? > many thanx Perl does exist for ms-dos, and I think those scripts would probably work OK there. They don't do anything exotic, just some byte reads and writes. Maybe the random-number generation would need to be looked at; as I said, that is the one weak part. But probably they would work OK. Hal

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Re: THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
by peb＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Recently a relative of mine was battered/assulted in a park. The perp, after a personal item broke, called a friend at the police on his cel phone and an officer charged my relative for assault! The perp is also trying to sue for damages. The relative is nearly at retirement age and the perp had 3 large attack dogs at the time. This is a bad cop with a vindictive mentality and the court so far believes the cop. (My relative should be suing for psychological damages after weeks of nightmares about being attacked and then betrayed by the police and fear of retribution for pursuing justice. This is a very expensive process in money, time and emotions.) A personal recording of what happened would make a lot of difference. Paul E. Baclace peb(a)netcom.com

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Tribes, cyberspace and the communication society
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Internet develops its own order... Electric Dreams Weekly column for The Asian Age by Rishab Aiyer Ghosh #46, 30/January/1995: Tribes, cyberspace and the communication society Industrialization brought with it many social changes. Concentrating power in cities, it expanded the value of property rights and built a complex formal legal system to enforce them. It gave birth to the powerful police force as the means for keeping law and order in the urban population of gathered strangers, and, while spreading democracy, distanced people from the process of legislation that affected them. All this is going to change as the information revolution engulfs the planet. Perhaps surprisingly, the social changes to come will more closely reflect humans as they interacted millennia ago, rather than as they did in the more recent past. Before industrialization, cities were much less important. The village (in an idealized history) was the key social unit, as the tribe was in pre-agricultural communities. Economic power, being geographically distributed, resulted in considerable control by people over the informal rules that governed them and their immediate environment, despite the absence of democracy as we now know it. Property rights were lax, especially in tribal society; villages placed great importance on common land. There was correspondingly little emphasis on a police force or formal law. Order was maintained primarily through systems of social punishment - reputation and taboo. As cities formed, the value of owned property increased, as there was little sense of community or common benefit among strangers. Crime increased, property rights became important to enforce, and taboo was no longer an effective preserver of order primarily because unlike villages, the city is not what I call a communication society. People don't depend on each other in cities as much as in villages, nor does the threat of ostracization work, as social interaction is a far greater component of rural than urban life. Urban society needed, and developed, modern forms of centralized law enforcement. As mainstream media and the general public discover the relative anarchy of the Internet, they take fright at its apparent disorder and suggest the need for government if cyberspace is to have a future - people fear freedom. At least until they experience it - after all, the Net has been around long before it became front-page news, and has evolved its own, distributed, law. Based on principles of total freedom of expression and a strong dislike of irrelevant content outside clearly defined zones, infractions are met sometimes by the guerrilla action of spontaneous protest, sometimes by ostracization. This works because cyberspace is also a communication society. While McLuhan's Global Village has become extremely cliched, in this aspect cyberspace does resemble a village. People on the Net may not be dependent on each other for food and clothing, but they are for almost anything else concerned with a cyber life. Cyberspace is full of vibrant communities that do little else but talk, and with social interaction at a higher level than at any time in history, it is well suited to a system of social punishment such as taboo; indeed, this may become the only practical form of wired justice, and could be very effective - in cyberspace, if nobody talks to you, you're dead. The similarity to pre-industrial communities does not end with modes of governance, but extends to basic issues of economics. Property rights in the infosphere are contentious; they keep getting more impractical to enforce, and will play a diminished role in a post- industrial world as technology and people work around attempts at formal legislation. Without realizing it, the denizens of the Net have already created a vast 'cooking- pot' market in software, news and information, based on the very tribal notion of shared property and benefit. That government and industry will work with such disorganized economies is extremely unlikely, but they are so inherent to the communication society that cyberspace is, that they will survive, though perhaps occasionally going underground. Technology and society go hand in hand, but sometimes history repeats itself, if not without variation. Though the realm of information forms but part of our lives, that part will increase, and affect the rest. If we are a communication society while in the ocean of information, what might we be outside? Rishab Aiyer Ghosh is a freelance technology consultant and writer. You can reach him through voice mail (+91 11 3760335) or e-mail (rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in) --====(C) Copyright 1994 Rishab Aiyer Ghosh. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED====-- This article may be redistributed in electronic form only, PROVIDED THAT THE ARTICLE AND THIS NOTICE REMAIN INTACT. This article MAY NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be redistributed in any non-electronic form, or redistributed in any form for compensation of any kind, WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION from Rishab Aiyer Ghosh (rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in) --==================================================================-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- For Electric Dreams subscriptions and back issues, send a mail to rishab(a)arbornet.org with 'get help' as the message Subject. Rishab Aiyer Ghosh rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in rishab(a)arbornet.org Vox +91 11 6853410 Voxmail 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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Re: commercial authecation
by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Keith Henson asked how to find the digital-time-stamp folks, > Surety Technologies Inc., started by Stuart Haber and Scott Stornetta > as a spinoff of Bellcore. > > They're now actively in business - there was an article in one of the > trade rags that you can get their signature kit for PCs for > something like $50 with tokens for 50 notarizations. > Details on their web page. This technology is very clever and bound to be extremely important. But does anyone else think that the price is a little high? I mean the marginal cost can't be more than a few seconds of CPU time for each time stamp... This price tag will temporarily put the time stamp technology out of ubiquitous use, where every piece of e-mail, homework paper, Usenet post, etc., is automaticly time stamped in a cryptographically secure way so that authorship can be asserted and proved. I think the need for proof of authorship is going to become increasingly important in an increasingly online world, where copying is so effortless, and reputations are based on digital identities. Wei Dai -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLzMXKDl0sXKgdnV5AQFA+gP/XcrjAncBMVqocpXYfAaBR7RJ2PDR4ZF/ TEgCPcPM7we4eoR5w++7V+jsBhtNRSng5OUCeKQWSCU8BDnkUXuQNpQ8+fNKciMS RQWn1PBx4carczVOJoNyR1U8Rxu9tIH0Drh/NIZJ4324azpMOd8ysVFkJ4QODCPu 07Bf7pZ36c0= =tAcu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- E-mail: Wei Dai <weidai(a)eskimo.com> URL: "http://www.eskimo.com/~weidai" =================== Exponential Increase of Complexity =================== --> singularity --> atoms --> macromolecules --> biological evolution --> central nervous systems --> symbolic communication --> homo sapiens --> digital computers --> internetworking --> close-coupled automation --> broadband brain-to-net connections --> artificial intelligence --> distributed consciousness --> group minds --> ? ? ?

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