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SPA sues C2, other ISPs and users
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to a 10/10/96 press release, the Software Publishers Association has files copyright infringement suits against three ISP's and two individual users. The three ISP's were Community Connexion of Oakland, GeoCities of Beverly Hills, and Tripod of Williamstown, Mass. The two users sued were apparently customers of other ISP's who turned over their names & contact information to the SPA. The press release, located at <http://www.spa.org/piracy/releases/netpir.htm>, indicates: "Piracy has taken many forms on the Internet. These include making unauthorized copies of software available for download, the posting of serial numbers, cracker and hacker utilities and links to pirate FTP sites. Although many believe piracy is limited to "warez" or illegal copies of software, it extends beyond that narrow definition. Under the law, anyone who knows -- or should have known -- of the infringement and who assists, encourages or induces the infringement is liable for indirect infringement. In each of the actions SPA filed, at least two of the above infringements were present. " The SPA has apparently adopted two relatively aggressive litigation strategies - putting ISP's in the position of disclosing otherwise confidential customer information or being sued themselves, and treating peripheral data about copyrighted works like copyrighted works themselves (e.g., serial numbers). Particularly interesting is that they seem to be claiming that a *link* to a pirate FTP site is itself infringing (potentially contributory infringement). (My comments above are made solely from reading the press release.) It's inappropriate to expect Sameer or any other C2 employee/agent/representative to discuss the suit before they've had a chance to find and meet with an attorney; in some circumstances it might never be prudent for them to make a public statement about the suit. But it certainly couldn't hurt for people who've thought about signing up with C2 to do so now as a show of support, nor for existing users to renew their service early. -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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BAY AREA CYPHERPUNKS SATURDAY 10/12 TRESSIDER HALL STANFORD
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There will be a San Francisco Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting on Saturday 10/12 at Stanford University. The meeting location will be the tables outside Tressider Hall, where we've met for several previous meetings. The canonical time is noon for lunch and milling around, and 1pm for organized program. Hugh Daniel will be organizing the program, and will be demonstrating how to install the SWAN encrypting firewall system that John Gilmore talked about at the September meeting. Maps of Stanford are available on the web under www.stanford.edu. For the MIME-equipped, I've attached a GIF that has the meeting area outside Tressider marked. Ample parking is available in the parking lot between Mayfield Ave. and Lagunita. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.

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Say what?
by rollo＠artvark.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm enclosing a header taken from a message in <Cypherpunks Lite Digest 96/10/05>. Can anyone tell me how to determine (1) who wrote it; (2) who sent it to me; (3) Who was the original recipient? It seems like it's to Cypherpunks Lite <cp-lite(a)comsec.com>, but that can't be it, since the author starts by saying "I must first say that your program is one of the finest in news reporting, and I tune in every day." >From owner-cp-lite Sat Oct 5 19:13:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-cp-lite Received: from localhost (eb@localhost) by comsec.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA21237 for cp-lite-real; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:13:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (eb@localhost) by comsec.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA21233; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:13:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199610060213.TAA21233(a)comsec.com> To: Cypherpunks Lite <cp-lite(a)comsec.com> Sender: owner-cp-lite(a)comsec.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ernest Hua <hua(a)chromatic.com> Subject: Lack of reporting on CALEA and Encryption issues ... Precedence: bulk I must first say that your program is one of the finest in news reporting, and I tune in every day. Rollo Silver / Amygdala | e-mail: rollo(a)artvark.com 216M N. Pueblo Rd, #107 | Website: http://www.artvark.com/artvark/ Taos, NM 87571 USA | Voice: 505-751-9601; FAX: 505-751-7507

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Burma bans modems
by John Fricker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: George Sadowsky <George.Sadowsky(a)nyu.edu> Subject: Re: Burma Bans modems Here is the text of the web page referenced below: RANGOON, BURMA, 1996 SEP 27 (NB) -- Burma has made owning, using, importing or borrowing a modem or fax machine without government permission a crime, punishable by up to 15 years in jail, according to a report by United Press International. Burma's military government has imposed what's called "The Computer Science Development Law" which empowers the Ministry of Communications, Posts and Telegraphs to specify what exactly can be restricted, UPI reports. UPI quotes the government-run newspaper New Light of Myanmar as saying the same punishment is prescribed for anyone who sets up a link with a computer network without the prior permission of the ministry, or who uses computer network and information technology "for undermining state security, law and order, national unity, national economy and national culture, or who obtains or transmits state secrets." UPI reports that in July a diplomat, Leo Nichols, died in prison after he was sentenced to a lengthy term for illegal possession of fax machines. It's clear from this action that the SLORC, i.e. the "State Law and Order Restoration Committee" (sic!) understands full well the benefits and importance of the Internet and other forms of electronic communication to open societies, and is determined to deny these benefits to its citizens. Given its recent history and the quasi-imprisonment of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, this new action is perfectly consistent with the government's previous abysmal record. Countries who would deny open Internet access to its citizens might well pause to consider if they wish to be associated with the current government of Myanmar in doing so. George Sadowsky, Director Voice: +1.212.998.3040 Academic Computing Facility Fax: +1.212.995.4120 New York University 251 Mercer Street George.Sadowsky(a)nyu.edu New York, New York 10012-1185 http://www.nyu.edu/acf/staff/sadowsky/ --j You can retrieve my PGP public key by sending mail with subject "send pgp key". Take a look at www.Program.com for a good programmer web site.

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Re: Why not PGP?
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:40:31 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>I don't intend to submit my present or future private PGP keys for key >>escrow (Is that what's called GAK?). To protect myself against forgetting >>my private key (which has happened once already) I'll no doubt some day put >>it on a floppy and put the floppy in my bank safe deposit box. >You still have to "remember" that long, non-memorizable key, although >something like that can be written on paper and well-hidden and/or split up >into parts. It's only value is to decrypt that bank-stored floppy. It'd be only 256 bytes or 512 hex digits. If it was *that* important, you _could_ memorize it! After all, some monks memorized the entire Bible. I knew guys who had pi memorized to over 300 places.... # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp # <cadams(a)acucobol.com> | send mail with subject "send PGPKEY" "That's our advantage at Microsoft; we set the standards and we can change them." --- Karen Hargrove, Microsoft (quoted in the Feb 1993 Unix Review editorial)

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Re: SPA sues C2, other ISPs and users
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:12 PM 10/11/96 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote: > >It's inappropriate to expect Sameer or any other C2 >employee/agent/representative to discuss the suit before they've had a >chance to find and meet with an attorney; in some circumstances it might >never be prudent for them to make a public statement about the suit. Is this good advice? When attacked, isn't it good to offer as strong a defense as possible including (but not limited to) verbal abuse, physical confrontations, countersuits, standing outside people's houses, picketing, letters, public appearances, urging other people to express their views, etc. What is lost by a complete defense. If you develop a nasty reputation, people eventually leave you alone. It doesn't even hurt you in court. See for example the new Milos Forman film "The People vs. Larry Flynt." In spite of Larry's tactics, Justice Rhenquist gave him the unanimous decision he wanted from the Supremes. DCF

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Re: LET'S MEET DIMITRI
by Z.B. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 12 Oct 1996, Ross Wright wrote: > On or About 12 Oct 96 at 11:28, Steven L Baur wrote: > > Tim's message: > > > Well, to one who inserts "(spit)" after nearly every name he cites, > > and critiques Hayek as "fucking unreadable. Shit.," I suppose Hayek > > must indeed seem unreadable. Shit. > > > > After all, Hayek rarely writes things like: "The senile Von Mises > > (spit) and his Sovok Cabal plotters...." > > > > As to "forcing" your students to read Hayek, just who is in charge? > > If you're the instructor, they can choose to read what you tell them > > to read, or be unprepared on the exams you give and possibly flunk > > the class. What part of "Required Reading" do you or your students > > not understand? > > > > --Tim (spit) May > > I had almost forgotten what started this war of flame. That's not so > bad. > Not very bad at all, considering all of the subsequent messages Vulis posted in response to that one. All of the (spit), (fart), and so on got annoying REAL fast, not to mention the anonymous Tim-bashing messages which he is probably doing as well. Zach Babayco zachb(a)netcom.com <-------finger for PGP public key http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/4127 ----- If you need to know how to set up a mail filter or defend against emailbombs, send me a message with the words "get helpfile" (without the " marks) in the SUBJECT: header. I have several useful FAQ's and documents available.

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[Book] The Cobweb
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just finished with 'The Cobweb' by Neal Stephenson and his uncle,* writing under the nym Stephen Bury. The Cobweb is entertaining, and easily worth the $14 I paid. Its cpunk relevance is a little limited except for the Iowa deputy sheriff who figures out an Iraqi biolological weapons scheme in the US, while the CIA, FBI and NSA fight State, Agriculture and each other over how, or if, to react. Mercenary Soviet Antonov transport planes, stateless Kurds, and encrypted radio links all play their parts. We never do find out if the NSA can decrypt them in time. ISBN 0-552-37828-7. Bantam, Sept 1996. *I forget his uncle's name; hes a history professor who can't be seen writing books with a Sci-fi author like Neal. The usefulness of nyms. They also wrote 'Interface.' -- "Every year the Republicans campaign like Libertarians, and then go to Wasthington and spend like Democrats." Vote Harry Browne for President. http://www.harrybrowne96.org

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Royalties
by pclow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear C'punks I understand from a previous post that if I were to commercialised PGP in a package, I have to pay some royalties(?) to the owners(?) of IDEA. My apologies to the list for repeating the question which is, who do I pay to and how much. Thanks.

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Re: -No Subject-
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Why not just make flute or netscape your shell instead of program manager? (Shell= line in system.ini) Ryan ---------- Previous Message ---------- To: cypherpunks cc: From: kpieckie @ Harding.edu (Compton) @ smtp Date: 10/11/96 11:12:03 PM Subject: -No Subject- Due to the high volume of mail from this list, I rarely get to read every message that comes through here. Thus, I ask a reply be sent to kpieckie(a)harding.edu directly rather than through the list. Please forgive the interruption if this message is slightly off-topic. The library here at Harding University is attempting to set up some internet computers that run Netscape only and do not allow access to anything else on the computers. We use a scripting program called Flute that hides the Program Manager (WFW 3.11) and reloads Netscape when it is nuked with Alt-F4. Another program removes the ability to use any of the netscape pulldown menus less help. The problem is the keyboard. If a user hit's Alt-F4 after Progman has loaded but before the Flute script executes, Flute is terminated and the user has access to the computer. Are there any programs that will disable Alt-F4 and Control-Esc in Windows? Where can they be attained? Freeware is preferable, shareware is fine, trial period is required for commercial products. Thanks. Kevin kpieckie(a)harding.edu

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