December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

I want to spam the Jury Duty information
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well if you are going to go to the trouble and expense, then you should also put something in there to educate the masses about how to use crypto to protect themselves, and why this is a good idea.

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OpenSSL
by Jack Rusher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm familiar with some background and some of the issues. Unfortunately, >what we are faced with is the idea that one group wants to "own" the >concept of an Open SSL project. This is certainly not the way to start >a successful, open source, group-based project. Hey, everybody, here is a novel idea: Why don't we look at this as a great opportunity to make some really good free software that will make all of our lives easier. It is time for the free SSL implementation to move into a larger (and more continously updated) group project. OpenSSL is a great idea, a great name for the idea, and it is the right time to do it. So, how about we stop looking at this as a pissing contest between some strong personalities? There are alot of talented developers on this list, and I think that we would all be better off working together than turning into a bunch of bitter, petty, ego driven camps that are primarily concerned with proving how large their genitals are. What I am trying to say is, if (for instance) Ben and Ralph would like to sit down for a pint and make nice with one another, I am buying. Name the pub, in the neutral country of your choice, and we are there. ;-) j.

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OpenSSL (whoever picks up the banner) Yeah!!
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com cc: Subject: Open Source separate from the Crypto export battle -------- Happy What ever to you all ! gee Anonymous... you seem to be quite angry... or a feeble provacateurs attempt to cause division in the ranks(Infowar Level 1 perhaps??) (as if there wasnt enough already...) I think its vitally important to recognize Sameers and C2Nets contribution to fighting against both the US bullshit export laws and to good quality cryptographic software... Stronghold while NOT open source has been a vital and much appreciated part of the battle against the eavesdroppers at the NSA/Interpol/GCHQ etc. I am however somewhat guarded about how Open Source OpenSSL will remain. For example will competitors to C2net be able to use it without licensing or fees to C2net in some form..? I would also like to thank Ben Laurie for making the patches available. A lot of sites run these worldwide. I sincerely wish the anonymous flamers would cease and desist you are contributing as much garbage as the average spammer to these lists If people dont make a profit from crypto activities... then there wont be any crypto... Again Sameer thanx for all you have done.. Seasons greetings Anon.

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No Subject
by rcballen＠mindspring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GAY

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I want to spam the Jury Duty information
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Well if you are going to go to the trouble and expense, then you >should also put something in there to educate the masses about >how to use crypto to protect themselves, and why this is a good >idea. And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how crypto may help end spam. Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. While you're spamming, maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. Hell, go ahead and put the list address as the "From" address. It will shut down the list, make us look like idiots, and accomplish very little, but it's for a good cause. After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's eliminate privacy rights. The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and stupid I've heard on this list in a while. Both of you read "The Prince" one too many times.

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Ecstasy, The means & the way to a true orgasm!
by bettyrubble＠193.230.240.21 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BOOST YOUR SEX APPEAL AND CHANGE YOUR SOCIAL AND SEX LIFE FOREVER. SCIENCE AND NATURE'S SEXUAL SECRET WEAPON! Scientists have isolated the natural Human male/female Pheromone attractants and they are NOW available to YOU, legally, in the US. ATTRACT THE OPPOSITE SEX LIKE NEVER BEFORE ! IT'S GUARANTEED, or you pay nothing! PHEROMONES in the News! >From the NY Times to the LA Times. USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, Psychology Today, 20/20, Hard Copy, Single Living, Medical Tribune, Philadelphia Inquirer, Dateline, Discovery, Hustler, Playboy, Rocky Mountain News, McCalls, Penthouse, Cosmopolitan, BBC-TV, Colordao Telegraph, GQ, Time, Redbook, Fortune Magazine, and more. Radio and Television Stations worldwide. All have reported the scientific findings amidst excitement, controversy, commotion and thrill about pheromones and their potential use. The Press Has Said it Better Than We Can. "PUT IT TO THE TEST" MERIDIAN TV: Sold extensively in the UK, phermomones were tested live on television in the UK, when the unknowing female presenter was VERY ATTRACTED to one of the twin guys, he was wearing "Androstenone Pheromone" but she did not know this, and did not know why she was attracted to him ! US NEWS and WORLD REPORTS "The key to starting a love affair might be right under your nose. Scientists have just announced the discovery of a virtual sixth sense, a tiny organ in the nasal cavity that responds to chemicals known as pheromones. These natural substances are thought to play a role in basic human emotions such as fear, hunger--and love." FORTUNE MAGAZINE: "An imaginative University of Utah anatomist named David L. Berliner was working with substances that occur in human skin. When he left some of the extracts in open vials around the lab, he noticed a sudden, puzzling rise in camaraderie among a previously acrimonious group of researchers working with him. When he changed the extracts a few months later, the group resumed its contentious ways. Berliner froze and saved the extracts. Nearly 30 years later, ... thanks to a method of containing drugs and cosmetics inside tiny, spongelike polymer spheres, he returned to the subject. In 1989 he ... has isolated the suspected good-fellowship pheromones -- behavior-controlling substances similar to those already known to stimulate sexual activity in animals. (One whiff of a pheromone called aphrodisin from a female hamster and a male is ready to mate.) On March 3, 1998 FOX Affiliate, WSVN in Miami did a story on Pheromones, stating, "If you're looking for love, we've got a potion for passion." ... "Tonight, a secret weapon to attract the opposite sex. Researchers developing their own passion potion. Ever been attracted to someone but weren't really sure why? .... More and more research is pointing to chemicals these days.... undetectable chemicals... pheromones ... a clear odorless liquid" Customers Say: "... works as advertised, best product of its' kind" I've always had trouble meeting women-then I tried your product. Now girls come up to me and introduce themselves all the time! I'd like to know if your product is available in a larger quantity so I can make sure I'm never without it! -Dave J I've been driving a tractor trailer for about 6 years and I'm on the road all the time. It's been impossible to meet women until I tried pheromones. Now every truck stop I pull into I meet new women, and many of them ask me out. Thanks! -Tom on the Road Again, WHAT ARE PHEROMONES? Pheromones are a naturally occurring chemical compound found in all insects, all animals, and in humans. When pheromones are secreted they dictate sexual behavior and attract the opposite sex. Be careful. Animal pheromones do NOT attract humans. Have you ever wondered why people who are not particularly attractive seem to attract dates like flies to honey? They seem to have some "chemical attraction" about themselves. Some call it animal magnetism. It may be pheromones. Now you can have that "chemical attraction" whenever you want. PHEROMONES - THE FACTS Pheromones are natural chemicals which play an important role in sexual communication. Animals, including humans release chemicals in tears, saliva and perspiration. These chemicals send signals relating to mood and health to the subconscious awareness. One theory is that the dominant male will exude more of these chemical attractants than a submissive or weaker male. This chemical attracts more females to him. It is similar for woman attracting men. This natural attractant can also contribute to more intense excitement during love making (sexual foreplay and sexual intercourse). Pheromones may also contribute to the dating phrase, "chemical attraction" that we all talk about. WSVN-TV (March 3, 1998) "Ever been attracted to someone but weren't really sure why? .... More and more research is pointing to chemicals these days.... undetectable chemicals... pheromones ... a clear odorless liquid" MORE RESEARCH AND REFERENCES: Following is some research done on products made by our manufacturer, and bottled under a different name. It contains the same pheromone type and content as Hi-Octane http://www.angelfire.com/fl/beaches69/index.html ABOUT OUR PRODUCT: Hi-Octane (tm) .. is made up of PHEROMONES suspended in witch hazel.. This product is designed to be added to your favorite cologne or perfume. .. contains both male and female PHEROMONES. Nature never intended for just one PHEROMONE to be present; but two, male and female. Our manufacturering process uses both PHEROMONES in ALL our products. This will not attract same sex; but works as nature intended, attracting the opposite sex. .. comes in 1/8 oz. Bottle with a small funnel so you can easily pour it into your cologne or perfume. One 1/8 oz. bottle is enough to mix with 4 to 8 oz of your favorite perfume product. Similar pheromone products have been sold for up to $100 elsewhere. We sell the the strongest product on the market today for only $39.95. BUY two -- get one free. The world's largest manufacturer of Pheromones, MC Marble, now manufactures Hi-Octane (tm), a pheromone prodcut that is the "Most Powerful sexual attractant on the Market today." HI_OCTANE is made with two powerful synthesized human pheromones, Alpha-Androstenol and Alpha-Androstenone. HI-OCTANE will attract the opposite sex of the wearer. McCall's magazine writes "...pheromones can improve one's love life, pheromones send out subconscious scent signals to the opposite sex that naturally trigger romantic feelings." HI-OCTANE according to the manufacturer, may also intensify sex, by increasing sexual pleasure and endurance of both partners, and creating a higher sexual ecstasy. Individual results may vary. One private study claims that pheromones don't work for everyone. 75% of those trying it had success. Isn't it worth trying? HOW TO ORDER Hi OctaneTM Hi OctaneTM is available from Euphoria Products. A 1/8 oz. bottle with a convenient funnel (to be added to your favorite perfume) is $39.95. Mix 1/4 of the bottle with every 2 oz of your favorite product. One 1/8 oz. bottle is enough to mix with 4 to 8 oz of your favorite product. *** For a limited time, when you order two bottles (up to a two month's supply) of Hi Octane(tm), you'll get a third bottle ABSOLUTELY FREE. *** Please add $3.00 shipping and handling per order. (regardless of how many bottles you order, you pay only $3.00 total!) UPS Second Day Air Delivery is available for an additional $9.00 per order. Overnight, add $15.00 per order. Florida residents, please add applicable sales tax. For orders from outside of the US only ground shipping is available for $15. Our manufacturing facility offers the STRONGEST pheromones on the market today. Our manufacturing facility assures you that Hi-Octane will be always contain the male and female pheromones, the way nature intended it, to best attract the opposite sex for you. It is and will always be manufactured with the finest ingredients to assure your satisfaction. SATISFACTION GUARANTEED Try Hi OctaneTM risk-free. Your satisfaction is unconditionally guaranteed. If you do not find you are meeting and dating and scoring with more people of the opposite sex after using High OctaneTM for 30 days, simply return the unused portion of your order at any time for a full refund--no questions asked. Call 520-453-0303 Extension 202, 24 hours/day, 7 days/week for credit card orders. Have your MasterCard, Visa, American Express, and Discover Card ready and say, " I would like to order ___ bottles of High Octane." If you would like to order by mail, you can send in a check or money order, or credit card information, along with your name and street address (no PO Boxes please) and a day time phone number to: Euphoria Products Dept. 202 1859 No Pine Island Rd. Suite #133 Plantation, FL 33322 The Mailing List that you are being mailed from was filtered against a Global Filter List. If you would like not to recieve any other mailings of this type please call: 1-888-745-6328

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Have you been married a long time, Spice it up!
by swedegirl＠193.230.240.21 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BOOST YOUR SEX APPEAL AND CHANGE YOUR SOCIAL AND SEX LIFE FOREVER. SCIENCE AND NATURE'S SEXUAL SECRET WEAPON! Scientists have isolated the natural Human male/female Pheromone attractants and they are NOW available to YOU, legally, in the US. ATTRACT THE OPPOSITE SEX LIKE NEVER BEFORE ! IT'S GUARANTEED, or you pay nothing! PHEROMONES in the News! >From the NY Times to the LA Times. USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, Psychology Today, 20/20, Hard Copy, Single Living, Medical Tribune, Philadelphia Inquirer, Dateline, Discovery, Hustler, Playboy, Rocky Mountain News, McCalls, Penthouse, Cosmopolitan, BBC-TV, Colordao Telegraph, GQ, Time, Redbook, Fortune Magazine, and more. Radio and Television Stations worldwide. All have reported the scientific findings amidst excitement, controversy, commotion and thrill about pheromones and their potential use. The Press Has Said it Better Than We Can. "PUT IT TO THE TEST" MERIDIAN TV: Sold extensively in the UK, phermomones were tested live on television in the UK, when the unknowing female presenter was VERY ATTRACTED to one of the twin guys, he was wearing "Androstenone Pheromone" but she did not know this, and did not know why she was attracted to him ! US NEWS and WORLD REPORTS "The key to starting a love affair might be right under your nose. Scientists have just announced the discovery of a virtual sixth sense, a tiny organ in the nasal cavity that responds to chemicals known as pheromones. These natural substances are thought to play a role in basic human emotions such as fear, hunger--and love." FORTUNE MAGAZINE: "An imaginative University of Utah anatomist named David L. Berliner was working with substances that occur in human skin. When he left some of the extracts in open vials around the lab, he noticed a sudden, puzzling rise in camaraderie among a previously acrimonious group of researchers working with him. When he changed the extracts a few months later, the group resumed its contentious ways. Berliner froze and saved the extracts. Nearly 30 years later, ... thanks to a method of containing drugs and cosmetics inside tiny, spongelike polymer spheres, he returned to the subject. In 1989 he ... has isolated the suspected good-fellowship pheromones -- behavior-controlling substances similar to those already known to stimulate sexual activity in animals. (One whiff of a pheromone called aphrodisin from a female hamster and a male is ready to mate.) On March 3, 1998 FOX Affiliate, WSVN in Miami did a story on Pheromones, stating, "If you're looking for love, we've got a potion for passion." ... "Tonight, a secret weapon to attract the opposite sex. Researchers developing their own passion potion. Ever been attracted to someone but weren't really sure why? .... More and more research is pointing to chemicals these days.... undetectable chemicals... pheromones ... a clear odorless liquid" Customers Say: "... works as advertised, best product of its' kind" I've always had trouble meeting women-then I tried your product. Now girls come up to me and introduce themselves all the time! I'd like to know if your product is available in a larger quantity so I can make sure I'm never without it! -Dave J I've been driving a tractor trailer for about 6 years and I'm on the road all the time. It's been impossible to meet women until I tried pheromones. Now every truck stop I pull into I meet new women, and many of them ask me out. Thanks! -Tom on the Road Again, WHAT ARE PHEROMONES? Pheromones are a naturally occurring chemical compound found in all insects, all animals, and in humans. When pheromones are secreted they dictate sexual behavior and attract the opposite sex. Be careful. Animal pheromones do NOT attract humans. Have you ever wondered why people who are not particularly attractive seem to attract dates like flies to honey? They seem to have some "chemical attraction" about themselves. Some call it animal magnetism. It may be pheromones. Now you can have that "chemical attraction" whenever you want. PHEROMONES - THE FACTS Pheromones are natural chemicals which play an important role in sexual communication. Animals, including humans release chemicals in tears, saliva and perspiration. These chemicals send signals relating to mood and health to the subconscious awareness. One theory is that the dominant male will exude more of these chemical attractants than a submissive or weaker male. This chemical attracts more females to him. It is similar for woman attracting men. This natural attractant can also contribute to more intense excitement during love making (sexual foreplay and sexual intercourse). Pheromones may also contribute to the dating phrase, "chemical attraction" that we all talk about. WSVN-TV (March 3, 1998) "Ever been attracted to someone but weren't really sure why? .... More and more research is pointing to chemicals these days.... undetectable chemicals... pheromones ... a clear odorless liquid" MORE RESEARCH AND REFERENCES: Following is some research done on products made by our manufacturer, and bottled under a different name. It contains the same pheromone type and content as Hi-Octane http://www.angelfire.com/fl/beaches69/index.html ABOUT OUR PRODUCT: Hi-Octane (tm) .. is made up of PHEROMONES suspended in witch hazel.. This product is designed to be added to your favorite cologne or perfume. .. contains both male and female PHEROMONES. Nature never intended for just one PHEROMONE to be present; but two, male and female. Our manufacturering process uses both PHEROMONES in ALL our products. This will not attract same sex; but works as nature intended, attracting the opposite sex. .. comes in 1/8 oz. Bottle with a small funnel so you can easily pour it into your cologne or perfume. One 1/8 oz. bottle is enough to mix with 4 to 8 oz of your favorite perfume product. Similar pheromone products have been sold for up to $100 elsewhere. We sell the the strongest product on the market today for only $39.95. BUY two -- get one free. The world's largest manufacturer of Pheromones, MC Marble, now manufactures Hi-Octane (tm), a pheromone prodcut that is the "Most Powerful sexual attractant on the Market today." HI_OCTANE is made with two powerful synthesized human pheromones, Alpha-Androstenol and Alpha-Androstenone. HI-OCTANE will attract the opposite sex of the wearer. McCall's magazine writes "...pheromones can improve one's love life, pheromones send out subconscious scent signals to the opposite sex that naturally trigger romantic feelings." HI-OCTANE according to the manufacturer, may also intensify sex, by increasing sexual pleasure and endurance of both partners, and creating a higher sexual ecstasy. Individual results may vary. One private study claims that pheromones don't work for everyone. 75% of those trying it had success. Isn't it worth trying? HOW TO ORDER Hi OctaneTM Hi OctaneTM is available from Euphoria Products. A 1/8 oz. bottle with a convenient funnel (to be added to your favorite perfume) is $39.95. Mix 1/4 of the bottle with every 2 oz of your favorite product. One 1/8 oz. bottle is enough to mix with 4 to 8 oz of your favorite product. *** For a limited time, when you order two bottles (up to a two month's supply) of Hi Octane(tm), you'll get a third bottle ABSOLUTELY FREE. *** Please add $3.00 shipping and handling per order. (regardless of how many bottles you order, you pay only $3.00 total!) UPS Second Day Air Delivery is available for an additional $9.00 per order. Overnight, add $15.00 per order. Florida residents, please add applicable sales tax. For orders from outside of the US only ground shipping is available for $15. Our manufacturing facility offers the STRONGEST pheromones on the market today. Our manufacturing facility assures you that Hi-Octane will be always contain the male and female pheromones, the way nature intended it, to best attract the opposite sex for you. It is and will always be manufactured with the finest ingredients to assure your satisfaction. SATISFACTION GUARANTEED Try Hi OctaneTM risk-free. Your satisfaction is unconditionally guaranteed. If you do not find you are meeting and dating and scoring with more people of the opposite sex after using High OctaneTM for 30 days, simply return the unused portion of your order at any time for a full refund--no questions asked. Call 520-453-0303 Extension 202, 24 hours/day, 7 days/week for credit card orders. Have your MasterCard, Visa, American Express, and Discover Card ready and say, " I would like to order ___ bottles of High Octane." If you would like to order by mail, you can send in a check or money order, or credit card information, along with your name and street address (no PO Boxes please) and a day time phone number to: Euphoria Products Dept. 202 1859 No Pine Island Rd. Suite #133 Plantation, FL 33322 The Mailing List that you are being mailed from was filtered against a Global Filter List. If you would like not to recieve any other mailings of this type please call: 1-888-745-6328

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Re: [ssl-users] OpenSSL
by Jeffrey Altman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OpenTLS would be a much better name given the standards process in the IETF. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support(a)kermit-project.org

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Announcing our Store Wide Sale!
by Music Boulevard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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jury spam justifiable?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:35 AM 12/26/98 -0000, HyperReal-Anon wrote: >And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's >for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how >crypto may help end spam. Its not stealing because only the Govt can identify crimes. And they haven't. Legal Junk mail doesn't steal time? Legal Solicitors' phone calls don't steal? Taxes don't steal? Courtroom injustice isn't a theft of rights? >Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to >alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. The message must be phrased correctly. >While you're spamming, >maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. Who mentioned any mailing list? This would be a private matter. >After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm >your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking >for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's >eliminate privacy rights. Alls fair in love and war. >The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and The sheeple who haven't figured out how to filter spam are the ones most in need of education. Do it for the children. For the future generations. The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good to do nothing. Or just carry on with the same old same old, if that's what makes you feel better. Best not to make waves, after all. Might scare the horses.

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