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17 Dec '03

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Y2K War Games & Martial Law articles
by Carol Moore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Below are two recent articles to remind libertarians,et al that the feds are already planning "war games" in June for potential problems in year 2000 as well as discussing martial law. (All planned by the same President, Attorney General, ATF/FBI, and military who gave us Waco, Iraq sanctions, and the Sudan and Iraq bombings.) Carol in D.C. http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/community-y2k.html (PS. Demand Clinton the rapist (see http://www.newsmax.com) resign. 202-456-1111 or President(a)whitehouse.gov) (A good source for daily mainstream press articles on Y2K is: http://www.year2000.com/articles/articles) ----------- 12-24-98 Government plans war games to battle Millennium Bug By Lisa Hoffman / Scripps Howard News Service WASHINGTON -- The federal government is gearing up for top-level war games designed to grapple with possible calamities the "millennium bug" might wreak in the United States and abroad. The "tabletop exercise," as it's being called, will mark the first time since the end of the Cold War that Cabinet secretaries have assembled to plot responses to what could be a nationwide crisis. Clinton administration officials say they expect any disruptions that might result from computer confusion when 2000 dawns will be minor. But they want to make sure the government is prepared should that forecast be wrong. Planning for the war games, tentatively scheduled for June, is in its early stages, so officials can't say which Cabinet secretaries will take part, how long the exercises will last or what mock disaster scenarios the leaders will be wrestling with. According to administration officials, those almost certain to participate are Defense Secretary William Cohen, Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, Attorney General Janet Reno, Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater and Jamie Lee Witt, the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is taking a lead role in preparing for any year 2000, or Y2K, glitches. Governments, from the city and county level up, are racing to make sure their tens of thousands of vital systems will not fall prey to a programming problem that might cause computers to misinterpret the turn of the century on Jan. 1, 2000, and shut down or otherwise fail. Given the proliferation of computer chips in everything from traffic signals to medical devices to air traffic control towers, significant disruptions in vital services are at least theoretically possible. The administration wants to be able to respond rapidly if those occur. One major focus of the war games is expected to be on how to coordinate a response. At least one other high-level war game is slated at the Pentagon, where the top brass along with Cohen will gather to brainstorm sometime between March and the national exercise in June, according to Pentagon officials. Their focus won't be so much on handling defense computer foul-ups -- for which a massive preparatory fix now is underway -- as on how the armed forces might be able to help communities in which they are based cope with a crisis, particularly those overseas. If, for instance, the electrical power fails in Ramstein, Germany, troops at the U.S. Air Force Base there could provide generators to help restore the power, officials said. (Lisa Hoffman covers military affairs for Scripps Howard News Service. E-mail hoffmanl(at)shns.com.) ---------------- Found at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19981221_xex_un_plans_glo.shtml MONDAY DECEMBER 211998 PANIC IN THE YEAR ZERO U.N. plans for global chaos Bennett says no plans in U.S. for martial law Editor's note: This is the second of a two-part series on the Y2K millennium bug based on an exclusive interview with Sen. Robert Bennett, R-UT, and the chairman of the Senate committee investigating the technology problem. By David M. Bresnahan © 1998, WorldNetDaily.com SALT LAKE CITY, UT -- As preparations for widespread global panic and disorder over the Y2K crisis begin at the United Nations, the U.S. senator considered the most knowledgeable about the millennium bug, assures the United States does not have plans in place for martial law. Representatives from 130 nations met in a closed-door meeting Friday to discuss the Y2K crisis and the predicted problems that will occur around the world. The use of SWAT teams and martial law are being planned, according to a source present for the meeting at the U.N. Many underdeveloped nations expressed concern because they have had no ability to prepare for the Y2K problems, and many other smaller nations are far behind where they should be, the source told WorldNetDaily. The discussions at the meeting turned to how to handle public panic and unrest that is expected to result on January 1, 2000, if the Y2K computer bug shuts down power, communications, and transportation. The meeting was only the first of many more to come. Eventually, a formal request may be made to the U.N. for coordinated military action, according to the source. Representatives in the meetings openly expressed their fears of unrest, and voiced a need for martial law, and the use of military and police SWAT teams. Meanwhile, Bennett, chairman of the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem, has been actively sounding the alarm about domestic problems that may result because of the computer glitch. But he says martial law is a minimal threat in the U.S. "I'm not one of those who think that Bill Clinton will automatically, or in some diabolical way, try to manipulate this problem (Y2K) to impose improper force on anybody," he stated. "I just don't see any indications of that. Until I see some suggestion that that really is happening I won't believe that it's under consideration." Bennett did acknowledge that Canada is formulating plans to initiate martial law because of Y2K. "The Canadian armed forces are organized very differently than American armed forces," explained Bennett. "We don't have the provision to turn out the military from the Pentagon in a presidential declaration of martial law like the Canadians do." Although Bennett has been personally speaking out about the reality of the problems that could result from the Y2K bug, he has begun to tone down his predictions. He blames some of the fear being generated about the problem on businesses selling survival and preparedness supplies. "There's no question but that some of the hysteria is being whipped up by people who have products to sell," Bennett told WorldNetDaily in an exclusive interview. "At the same time, there are people who have legitimate products to sell that could have an impact on the Y2K problem, who have every right to talk about the problem in their legitimate marketing efforts." "Sometimes the lines between those two get blurred, but I don't want to be party to helping sell any particular product or service. That's not the appropriate thing for a United States senator or a United States Senate committee to do." Bennett was critical of most government agencies and private businesses for not working on the problem sooner. He said the Social Security Administration is to be commended for getting an early start, but most others failed to work on the problem soon enough to solve it in time. The total cost to fix the Y2K bug is expected to exceed $600 billion, with legal expenses in excess of $1 trillion, according to Bennett. Those numbers do not include estimates of lost business revenues, and corresponding loss of tax revenues. Potential damages and repairs are also not part of the estimates. Of all government agencies, Bennett said his greatest concerns are with the Defense Department. He said the Pentagon began work on the problem too late. Bennett listed the priorities of his committee as power, telecommunications and transportation. He explained that it will do little good for businesses to fix the Y2K problem within their company if they don't have power, communications, or transportation. "If there is no electricity, it doesn't matter whether your computer is Y2K compliant or not," said Bennett. "Your laptop batteries won't last long enough to solve all your problems." When Bennett first began spreading the alarm about Y2K, he stated that there was a 40 percent chance the nation's power grid would not function because of Y2K. "Now I think that 40 percent has shrunk down to single digits -- 5 percent, 3 percent -- pick your number, it doesn't really matter, it's a relatively small chance that the power grid will fail," said Bennett confidently. "I still think we will have brownouts," he added. "I don't know how long they will last. I don't know where they will hit, and I don't know how severe they will be. The very nature of the problem indicates that we cannot get through this with complete, absolute, 100 percent assurance, although there are people in power companies that are now telling me that's what we can depend on. "My own sense of the thing says, no, there's got to be some brownouts. There will be some interruptions, but the power grid will not fail. Don't go out and dig up your backyard and bury propane tanks, or go out and buy your very own generator, because I think we will have power." "I think the telecommunications system will work," predicted Bennett. "There will be individual exchanges or switching companies, or what have you, that will have problems. We won't know until we can test the whole system end to end. But there are enough heartening indications that things are going to be alright that leads me to believe that the telecommunications system will work." The nation's power grid is also dependent on a telecommunications system which enables all the various computers to communicate and keep the grid functioning. The telecommunications systems depend on the power grid to provide the necessary electricity. "If we have a breakdown in the transportation system, it could eventually shut down the economy by itself," said Bennett. "For example, if the trains don't work because the switching systems don't work, you can't get coal from coal mines on the trains to the power-generating plants, which means eventually you don't get any power and the power grid goes down and then the dominoes can fall in various directions." The most vulnerable transportation system which may be interrupted is maritime shipping, according to Bennett. "Getting oil out of foreign countries onto ships through customs with all the paper work that is involved with all large transoceanic shipments. And, of course, all of the paper work is controlled by computers," explained Bennett. Ships are computer-operated and must dock in ports that are also computer mechanized. Customs procedures are also dependent on computers to deal with the enormous amount of cargo coming into the country every day. "A breakdown (could occur) in that kind of transportation chain which depends not only on Y2K compliance in this country, but in many countries including the countries that license the ships, and the countries where the oil is produced," Bennett said. "I think the chances of a breakdown somewhere in that chain are probably higher than the single digits, and that could create some interesting and challenging economic difficulties." Bennett also took time to give advice to those who wish to determine how they may be impacted personally by the Y2K problem. Many people are planning to take their money out of banks prior to the start of the year 2000. Bennett is not personally concerned about access to his bank account. "You have every right to contact your institution, whether it's a bank or a credit union, and ask, 'Are you going to be Y2K compliant?' If you don't have the answer that you deserve, then take your money out," said Bennett. He said there will be individual banking institutions where checks will not clear and ATMs will fail. Some banks and ATMs will work, and others may not. "You have the responsibility to take care of your Year 2000 problem, just as your bank has the responsibility to take care of theirs, or just as Bill Clinton has the responsibility to take care of America's," he explained. Despite his own sometimes-dire warnings, Bennett says no one should have fear. "I think fear is too strong a word, but I think all of us should have some concern," he explained. "Concern enough to inform ourselves. You need to find out as much as you possibly can about what's really going to happen to you, and then make intelligent contingency plans." He advises talking to city, county, and state officials to determine if local government is prepared to continue to provide services in the year 2000. Bennett also advises that everyone should contact businesses they depend on for goods and services, and evaluate to what extent they will be impacted by Y2K. The task is complicated by the need to evaluate the entire chain of supplies. It is not enough ask your local grocery store if it is Y2K compliant. It must also be determined if the chain of supplies to the grocery store will be able to continue to deliver goods. "The contingency plan may be very minor, it may be non-existent," said Bennett. "You may say, 'In my job, with my employer, in my city, everything is going to be fine, I don't need to worry about anything.' "Or you may say, 'Where I live there is a 20 percent, 30 percent chance that the trucks might not be able to get to the supermarket where I buy food. I probably ought to have a little extra food. In my city the water purification plant is proving to be far more troublesome than it would be someplace else, and in my city I better have a supply of fresh water that can take me through while they're trying to get this taken care of.' "That's not fear," explained Bennett, "that's intelligent planning based on sound information. Everyone of us has to take the responsibility for gathering his or her own information and then making personal decisions.

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Mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu Not Propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 28 Dec 1998, Anonymous wrote: >Has anyone else experienced posts sent via the anon.lcs.mit.edu >mail2news gateway not propagating to Compuserve/Sprynet's news >servers? I've made a couple of posts, both anonymously and >non-anonymously via that gateway, and they haven't been showing up >at CIS/Sprynet. Yet they've been archived on Dejanews and replies >to them from users on other servers have shown up. > >Is this a propagation problem, or are Compuserve and Sprynet >blocking posts from that gateway? Hey! Stop abusing the anonymous remailers! Your identity isn't findable! It defeats the whole purpose of Anon! Fleaza!

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Friedman sings, part II.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.booknotes.org/transcripts/10086.htm This time it's for Brian Lamb's "Booknotes" show on CSPAN. The above is a transcript, about 60k. Cheers, RAH ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Anthrax Theatre II
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Performances of the award-winning "Anthrax Theatre" continue across the nation. Innovative variations on the original script are being demonstrated to test audiences, including stripping 200 Mervyn's shoppers naked, and forcing them to rinse themselves with laundry bleach. ----- POMONA, Calif. (AP) -- Hundreds of people were quarantined for hours inside a nightclub after a phony anthrax threat, at least the seventh such hoax in Southern California this month. No trace of the potentially deadly bacterium was found in preliminary tests, authorities said Sunday. A Los Angeles County hazardous materials team and the FBI's Domestic Terrorism Task Force were called to the Glass House club at 11:50 p.m. Saturday after a man called the Police Department and said ``a significant quantity'' of anthrax would be released into the air, police Lt. Gary Graham said. If inhaled and then left untreated, anthrax spores can cause respiratory failure and death within a week. About 800 people were kept inside the club for about four hours while the air-conditioning system was checked and samples taken for further study, Graham said. Clubgoers then were taken outside and given information on anthrax symptoms. They were then allowed to return to the club if they wished. Authorities had not immediately determined whether the threat was related to six others since the middle of the month. In each case, no evidence of anthrax was found: --On Dec. 14, a secretary at the Perris School District in Riverside County opened a letter that said, ``you've been exposed to anthrax.'' About 20 people were isolated and decontaminated. --On Dec. 17, an office building in the Westwood area of Los Angeles received a letter threatening exposure to anthrax. Nearly two dozen workers had to strip and go through a decontamination process. --On Dec. 18, a U.S. Bankruptcy Court in the Woodland Hills area was targeted and about 90 people underwent antibiotic treatment. --On Dec. 21, a telephoned threat emptied two Van Nuys courthouses and forced about 1,500 people into quarantine for several hours. --On Wednesday, the Chatsworth office of Time Warner Cable was evacuated after a threat. About 200 people had to leave their work stations. --On Thursday, Christmas Eve, a Mervyn's store in Palm Desert was the target of a hoax, and 200 people had to disrobe and were rinsed with a bleach solution. Anthrax hoaxes also have happened in Colorado, Kentucky, and Tennessee. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Hacking for Girlies and FBI news
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday 12/28/98 9:27 AM John Young BUSINESS OUTLOOK, Albuquerque Journal Monday December 28, 1998 http://www.abqjournal.com/ Consultant feels heat from FBI By Aaron Baca Carolyn Meinel says she just can't win. Three months ago - and many times before and since - the East Mountain author and computer-security consultant was the target of a diatribe left by computer hackers who broke into and vandalized the New York Times' Web page, she says. Now, Meinel says she is suspected by the IBI as being one of the culprits in the New York Times computer hack. She says the FBI told her that she's not a suspect, but asked her to take a lie-detector test, which suggests she is "The last contact I had with them (the FBI) was about a month ago," Meinel said in a telephone interview with the Journal. "I don't think they would want me to take a test if they weren't trying to trip me tip up somehow so they could come back at me later." Meinel says she offered to assist the FBI man investigation of the incident because of her experience with hackers and her experience with those who took credit for that. back - HFG, or Hacking for Girlies. So far the FBI will not say if it suspects Meinel. Doug Beldon, a spokesman for the Albuquerque FBI office, said the FBI is investigating the incident But he said he couldn't comment about the investigation. The New York Times web page was attacked by a group claiming to be HFG in September. The group peppered the site with profanity and pornographic images. They also left hidden messages on the page directed at Meinel and others.. Meinel is known in the hacker community as the Happy Hacker She has written two editions of a book by the same title and helped found an online community about hacking. She has also written numerous articles on computer security, including a recent article for Scientific American. In all of her articles, Meinel is critical of some hackers for the damage they can cause. She says she promotes friendly hacking, which she compares to the tinkering or exploring shade-tree mechanics often engage in on their automobiles. The same group, HAG, is believed to have broken into the computers of Albuquerque Internet service provider Rt66 in August. In that attack, more than 1,400 credit card numbers belonging to subscribers were compromised. Meinel says she has been advised by her own lawyer to stay out of the case now. "There's a lot I Think I could have offered the FBI, Meinel says. but I think its wise not to say anthing now. I could get myself in trouble if I helped with this investigation now. --- I am reading about html, reading our sons web site code - which he got from another Moto employee - and experimenting by modifying it. I just downloaded your stats and table code. I studied you index.htm and cryptome pages a bit yesterday. Morales and I talked this morning. As soon as we get something working, then we will try to get others to help. Like Ashok Kaushal aka AK. We plan to give the Great Satan some MORE deservedly [http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html] REALLY BAD international press. Until, of course, we get the Great Satan to shape-up and get some of his messes SETTLED. ABQ FBI agents Kohl and Schum attempted to intimidate me once. US Marshals too. http://www.jya.com/whpscalia.htm On the second occasion ABQ FBI agents Kohl and Moore delivered US assistant attorney Gorrences letter to me. http://www.jya.com/whprjg.htm Moore apologized when Kohl handed me the letter. Nonetheless, this earned the instigators criminal complaint affidavits. http://www.jya.com/whpscalia.htm Kohl had on a black fanny pack. FBI/Engineering Research Facility Special Supervisory Agents [SSA] I worked with carry their guns in fanny packs. Holsters were too obvious the FBI told me. FBI SSAs also carry cell phones. They need to phone in to find out what to do next. Morales and I need picture of the Great Satan. But, of course, being law-abiding citizens, we dont want to infringe anyones registered trademark. Campbell soup did not sue Andy Warhol. Therefore we will give Underwood full credit if we decide to use it registered trademark to depict the Great Satan. Back to .vxd writing. I think I have to get win98 working today so I can run the 98ddk. The vmm.inc macro which provides access to Microsofts Windows Virtual Machine Manager does not work the Hazzah or Thielen and Woodruff device driver code. While I modified vmm.inc to expand without error, link 32 is giving an error on some of the segments declarations in the module definition file. Until I get a working example of Device Descriptor Block accessed in the protected mode, I am in a bit of trouble with my current conversion project. Sure wish we could get these UNFORTUNATE matters settled so that Morales and I could spend time on other constructive projects. Later bill Thursday 12/10/98 5:08 PM J Kevin O'Brien, Chief Freedom of Information-Privacy Act Section Office of Public Affairs U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington D. C. 20535 O'Brien I received your form letter dated DEC 02 1998. YES, I want the information! I return your completed form. Sandia assigned me to break electronic locks for the FBI/ERF. SSA Mike Uttaro was my direct contact. His boss was SSA Mike McDevitt. The FBI is breaking the law under the veil of classification abuse. I may write another article --- False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm False Security William H. Payne Abstract Wiegand wire plastic credit card-sized entry access credentials are the easiest to counterfeit. Yet Access Control & SECURITY SYSTEMS INTEGRATION, September 1998 , www.prox.com http/www.securitysolutions.com ran a full page ad. "Why 130 million Wiegand cards are in use throughout the world . The most secure of all access card technologies. HID Wiegand cards are virtually impossible to counterfeit... any attempt to alter them destroys them! ... Since no direct contact with the card is required, they are totally enclosed, making them absolutely immune to the elements and a frustration of vandals. ... The secrets to the security of an HID Wiegand card are those little enclosed wire strips. Once corrupted, they won't work." Purpose of this article is to tell you how to counterfeit Wiegand http://www.securitysolutions.com/ and give you insight into Real Security. Fumble, Bumble and Inept Funds Electronic Lock Breaking at Sandia National Laboratories. http://www.jya.com/fbi-en7898.htm --- Counterfeiting Wiegand Wire Access Credentials Bill Payne October 16,1996 Abstract Wiegand wire access credentials are easy and inexpensive to counterfeit. Access Control & Security Systems Integration magazine, October 1996 [http://www/securitysolutions.com] published the article, Wiegand technology stands the test of time by PAUL J. BODELL, page 12 Many card and reader manufacturers offer Wiegand (pronounced wee-gand) output. However, only three companies in the world make Wiegand readers. Sensor Engineering of Hamden Conn., holds the patent for Wiegand, and Sensor has licensed Cardkey of Simi Valley, Calif., and Doduco of Pforzheim, Germany, to manufacture Wiegand cards and readers. ... A Wiegand output reader is not the same thing as a Wiegand reader, and it is important to understand the differences. In brief, Wiegand reader use the Wiegand effect to translate card information around the patented Wiegand effect in which a segment of a specially treated wire generates an electronic pulse when subjected to a specific magnetic field. If the pulse is generated when the wire is near a pick-up coil, the pulse can be detected by a circuit. Lining up several rows of wires and passing them by a cold would generate a series of pulses. Lining up two rows of wires - calling on row "zero bits" and the other "one bits" - and passing them by two different coils would generate two series of pulses, or data bits. These data bits can then be interpreted as binary data and used to control other devices. If you seal the coils in a rugged housing with properly placed magnets, and LED and some simple circuitry, you have a Wiegand reader. Carefully laminate the special wires in vinyl, and artwork, and hot-stamp a number on the vinyl, and you have a Wiegand card. IN THE BEGINNING Wiegand was first to introduce to the access control market in the late 1970s. It was immediately successful because it filled the need for durable, secure card and reader technology. Embedded in the cards, Wiegand wires cannot be altered or duplicated. ... Bodell's Last statement is incorrect. Tasks for EASILY counterfeiting Wiegand wire cards are 1 Locate the wires inside the card to read the 0s and 1s. 2 Build an ACCEPTABLE copy of the card. Bodell's clear explanation of the working of a Wiegand card can be visualized zero row | | | one row | | binary 0 1 0 0 1 representation Solutions to Task 1 A X-ray the card B MAGNI VIEW FILM, Mylar film reads magnetic fields ... Edmunds Scientific Company, catalog 16N1, page 205, C33,447 $11.75 is placed over the top of the Wiegand card. COW MAGNET, Cow magnetics allow farmers to trap metal in the stomachs of their cows. Edmunds, page 204, C31,101 $10.75 is placed under the card. Location of the wires is easily seen on the green film. Mark the position of the wires with a pen. Next chop the card vertically using a shear into about 80/1000s paper-match-sized strips. Don't worry about cutting a wire or two. Note that a 0 has the pen mark to the top. A 1 has the pen mark at the bottom. Take a business card and layout the "paper match"-like strips to counterfeit the card number desired. Don't worry about spacing. Wiegand output is self-clocking! Tape the "paper-match - like" strips to the business card. Only the FUNCTION of the card needs to be reproduced! History Breaking electronic locks was done as "work for others" at Sandia National Laboratories beginning in 1992 funded by the Federal Bureau of Investigation/Engineering Research Facility, Quantico, VA. The FBI opined that this work was SECRET/NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION. Details of the consequences of this work are covered in Fired Worker File Lawsuit Against Sandia Specialist Says He Balked When Lab Sought Electronic Picklock Software, Albuquer Journal, Sunday April 25, 1993 State-sanctioned paranoia, EE Times, January 22, 1996 One man's battle, EE Times, March 22, 1994 Damn the torpedoes, EE Times, June 6, 1994 Protecting properly classified info, EE Times, April 11, 1994 DOE to scrutinize fairness in old whistle-blower cases, Albuquerque Tribune, Nov 7 1995 DOE boss accelerates whistle-blower protection, Albuquerque Tribune, March 27, 1996 DOE doesn't plan to compensate 'old' whistle-blowers with money, Albuquerque Tribune September 27, 199 --- Here is one of my previous articles. http://www.zolatimes.com/v2.29/bw1.html http://www.aci.net/kalliste/bw1 We should get this settled before IT GETS WORSE. Black and white is an example of WORSE. bill payne

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People With Honor
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:55:59 GMT To: "DaveNet World" <davenet-world(a)scripting.com> From: dave(a)scripting.com (DaveNet email) Subject: People With Honor Sender: <davenet-world(a)scripting.com> ------------------------------------- >From Scripting News... It's DaveNet! Released on 12/28/98; 9:55:55 AM PST ------------------------------------- Seasons Greetings DaveNet readers! I've been keeping up on the issues of impeachment, reading newspapers and websites, and considering ideas that have not been showing up in these places. I've also been talking with people and listening, and I think people in the US are overlooking something that we may not be able to ignore much longer. First, there is definitely a serious split in this country. Some people blame the Republicans for what happened, I've even heard people say they're so angry with the Republicans that they'll never vote Republican again. To them, I want to say, save some of your rage for Clinton. Understand that there are two sides here. Clinton screwed up, the Republicans responded, and Clinton did more, and on and on. How far has it gone? That's what I want to think about now, logically, precisely, and not emotionally or expressively. And I want to consider other points of view, especially those from outside the US. If we're ever going to work together again, there will have to be give on both sides, sooner or later. We'll have to see ourselves as one country, responsible for what we do, no matter what party you belong to or support. ***A tough question I was going to bag this piece, it's not worth the trouble, I said to myself, until I saw CBS's 60 Minutes last night, and listened to Andy Rooney talk about how far it's gone. He asked the same question I'm going to ask here. ***What happened in Iraq? The question: Was the US bombing of Iraq an attempt by Clinton to stay in power? This question has to be asked, although I do it with trepidation, imagining that some of my fellow Americans will accuse me of treason, or not pulling behind our leader in a time of crisis. But as I sort thru this, I want to know, where is the crisis? Does Iraq threaten us? If so, how? Oil prices are now lower than they have ever been, as if oil prices were an honorable reason to bomb another country. How would we feel if Iraq had bombed US cities? How would we feel if Iraq found a way to retaliate now that we have bombed their cities? Could we blame them if they did? Did Israel ask us to bomb Iraq? Clearly if Iraq attacks Israel, that's a problem for Israel, and we're an ally and protector of Israel. Did Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan or Egypt ask us? How come they're staying silent on this? Or are they not silent and we're not hearing about it? If timing was a big issue, as Clinton says it was, why choose to bomb Iraq just as the House was convening to decide impeachment? Are we to believe that the decision was made without considering impeachment? At some point in the deliberation, someone must have said "But Mr. President, couldn't this backfire on us? Couldn't it look as if we're doing this to bolster your Presidency?" It's the first question that pops into a thinking mind. The question has barely been raised on TV or in the newspapers or on the web. Why? This is supposed to be an open country. I can't believe that anyone who's really thinking about this hasn't asked themselves this question. It's on my mind, I can tell you that for sure. ***Carole King? These are very strange times. This came home in a new way when I saw a TV clip of Carole King entertaining the troops on a US warship. What was she doing there? Did I miss something? Is this the Bizarro World? Next is it going to be Bob Dylan, Jesse Jackson, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams and Whoopi Goldberg? What am I missing? What are we supporting? If you had a debate with a thoughtful person from outside the US, what would you say about how our military is being used? Justly, fairly, wisely, respectfully, honorably? And is it really still just about sex? Can Clinton blame the Republicans for this? Where will the buck stop this time? The appearance of dishonorable militarism is enough to cause some people to draw their own conclusions. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.. ***Did you know? I'm reminded of those who said they knew that Clinton was lying when he said he never had sexual relations with that woman. I wonder if they're listening carefully to his words now. Are they really this gullible? How will you feel if it escalates, and you or your children are asked to fight a war in Iraq? What will you be fighting for? This is very bad for the US. We are being irresponsible. We let a dishonored president bomb foreign countries and we look the other way. I keep watching the Op-Ed pages for a clue to this, but they are silent. I wonder why? ***A failure to communicate Over the weekend I watched a great movie, Cool Hand Luke, starring Paul Newman. He's a tragic Christ-like figure, making it an appropriate movie to watch during the big Christian holiday. He says and does things the other inmates wish they had the courage to say and do. The warden breaks his spirit, but it returns before the movie ends. Cornered, resigned to dying, he repeats, with a twinkle in his eye, what the warden said in an earlier scene. "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Then the jailkeeper shoots him. As they carry away his dying body I wonder whether it was worth it. In the end the prisoners are still in prison, but they have the memory of his courage to warm them. Luke is gone, the truth is gone, but at least they had a glimpse of what it's like to be alive. ***People with honor Compared with perjury and obstruction of justice, it matters more to me that the President looked into the camera, with induced outrage, and denied doing something that he later admitted doing. It was his outrage that did it for me. He's an emotional manipulator on a mass scale. Looking at the film of the Cabinet officers saying they believed him, I wondered "How could they?" If this country ever had courage, now is the time for it to surface. Don't wait for a hero, no one person can do it. We all have to decide if honor counts. Or at least a good portion of the electorate has to get there. The Democrats point to Clinton's historic 70 percent approval rating, and they're right to do so. We preach the value of democracy, but are we hypocrites, do we get any benefit from democracy in our own country? The man lies. Even his supporters acknowledge that. We accept that, but what's the limit? How far will we go? Consider that seriously, as you try to understand the news, as you try to understand the country you live in and how it relates to other countries. If Clinton stays, do we have a system based on lies? None of us know how deep it goes. We may be fighting a war as a by-product of this, a real war, with battleships and bombs. Don't blame anyone but yourself. You could have stopped it and you still can, it's not too late, yet. Dave Winer ------------------------------------------- Scripting News: <http://www.scripting.com/> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Utne: Y2K Citizen's Action Guide
by Sunder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.utne.com/y2k/ This month's Utne Reader came with an attached 4.25"x8.5" booklet. An e-copy of the said booklet is available from their site. Its contents, much like the magazine, contains articles snipped and or adapted from elsewhere. Unfortunately the thread throughout the whole thing is "those who go in the woods with automatic rifles are the bad selfish guys." IMHO, helping your family and 'hood is a great thing. Being labeled a kook if you are selfish and have no instinct other than self preservation isn't such a great thing. This sort of thought will only lead to a further erosion of freedom and a fall towards communism as more and more people will feel pressured into "sharing" their property and resources with the commune rather than hoarding. By all means, make everyone aware of the problems and help them cope if that's what you want to do, just don't force others to do the same at gunpoint. :) It does have some redeeming qualities though if you ignore the political sharing slant. The articles they've included (save for the "Public Citizen" section) are good planning guides. -- ---------------------------- Kaos Keraunos Kybernetos ------------------- + ^ + Sunder "The real aim of current policy is to /|\ \|/ sunder(a)sunder.net ensure the continued effectiveness of /\|/\ <--*--> ALLOW FREE EXPORT OF US information warfare assets against \/|\/ /|\ STRONG CRYPTOGRAPHY! individuals,businesses and governments \|/ + v + PROTEST WASSENAAR!!! in Europe and elsewhere" -- Ross Anderson ------------------------------ http://www.sunder.net ---------------------- RESTRICTED DATA - This material contains RESTRICTED DATA as defined in the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Unauthorized disclosure subject to administrative and criminal sanctions. NOFORN ORCON WNINTEL SIOP-ESI CNWDI

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17 Dec '03

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kha0S Linux
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

kha0S Linux is a new distribution currently in development. The primary goal of this project is to integrate and embed strong cryptography within a robust Linux distribution. kha0S is currently seeking the assistance of developers with strong backgrounds in cryptography and source code security auditing. Please visit the homepage for additional information. http://kha0s.org

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