December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [ssl-users] OpenSSL
by Jeffrey Altman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OpenTLS would be a much better name given the standards process in the IETF. Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2 The Kermit Project * Columbia University 612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025 http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * kermit-support(a)kermit-project.org

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Announcing our Store Wide Sale!
by Music Boulevard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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jury spam justifiable?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:35 AM 12/26/98 -0000, HyperReal-Anon wrote: >And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's >for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how >crypto may help end spam. Its not stealing because only the Govt can identify crimes. And they haven't. Legal Junk mail doesn't steal time? Legal Solicitors' phone calls don't steal? Taxes don't steal? Courtroom injustice isn't a theft of rights? >Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to >alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. The message must be phrased correctly. >While you're spamming, >maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. Who mentioned any mailing list? This would be a private matter. >After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm >your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking >for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's >eliminate privacy rights. Alls fair in love and war. >The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and The sheeple who haven't figured out how to filter spam are the ones most in need of education. Do it for the children. For the future generations. The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good to do nothing. Or just carry on with the same old same old, if that's what makes you feel better. Best not to make waves, after all. Might scare the horses.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Mixmaster client 4 the Mac OS?
by Robert Guerra 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 8:53 PM -0500 1998/12/3, Robert Hettinga wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 01:42:19 +0100 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > Subject: Mixmaster client 4 the Mac OS? > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > > I heard sometime last summer that the mixmaster client was being ported to > the Mac. Does anyone know the status of this project? > Perhaps it would be an interesting project which either used the PGPsdk libraries, or GNUPG code... Robert Guerra <az096(a)freenet.toronto.on.ca> WWW Page <http://www.interlog.com/~rguerra/www> PGPKeys <http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3378/pgpkeys.html> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.0.2 Comment: Digital Signatures ensure authenticity and author iQA/AwUBNoRj2sKdCsHMpdeSEQLnUwCfbm1vskjLT5Peanetx3Kq7Wrw5I8An2D1 wo6ePDYFqU4gPyp2fWK+v9k3 =brF8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[PNS-List] CFP: Epidemiology of Ideas
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mailing-List: contact pns-list-owner(a)egroups.com Reply-To: pns-list(a)egroups.com Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-PNS-List(a)eGroups.com From: "Philosophy News Service List Mgr. [richard jones]" <ListMgr(a)PhilosophyNews.com> To: "'PNS-List(a)eGroups.com'" <PNS-List(a)egroups.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 22:50:49 -0500 Subject: [PNS-List] CFP: Epidemiology of Ideas To: pns-list(a)egroups.com From: Mariam Thalos <thalos(a)ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS (fwd) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:49:49 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Smith <phismith(a)acsu.buffalo.edu> To: thalos(a)acsu.buffalo.edu, rapaport(a)cs.buffalo.edu Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS THE MONIST An International Quarterly Journal of General Philosophical Inquiry Edited by Barry Smith http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/Publications/Monet/ CALL FOR PAPERS THE EPIDEMIOLOGY OF IDEAS Deadline for submissions: July 2000 Advisory Editor: Dan Sperber (CREA, Paris) mailto:sperber@poly.polytechnique.fr Both in the psychological and in the social sciences, the notion of representation plays a major role. But how are the psychological notion of a mental representation and the sociological notion of a collective or cultural representation related? While there has been a naturalistic turn in cognitive science, proposals for the naturalization of mental representations have had little or no impact on the social sciences. This may be due in part to the fact that these naturalistic proposals typically focus on the individual cognizer. Yet, a large proportion of the mental representations of a human individual are, in fact, mere individual versions of representations widely distributed in human groups. By embracing the hypothesis that populations of representations (somewhat like populations of bacteria or viruses) are hosted by human populations, it becomes possible to apply to the distribution and evolution of mental representations models derived from epidemiology, population genetics, and evolutionary theory. Cultural representations are then seen as strains of mental representations of very similar content widely distributed across a population. To approach cultural representations in this way is to look for the causal explanation of macro-scale cultural phenomena in the micro-processes of cognition and transmission. It is to engage in a kind of epidemiology of ideas. Philosophers, biologists, and anthropologists have developed a variety of such epidemiological or evolutionary models, with particular application to cultural diffusion and to the history and philosophy of science. Both philosophers and social scientists with a serious interest in philosophy are invited to contribute papers on these and related topics. ______________________________________ Department of Philosophy 611 Baldy Hall University at Buffalo 716 633 2041 Buffalo NY 14260 - 1010 fax: 716 645 6139 http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/pns-list Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: jury spam justifiable?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At 12:35 AM 12/26/98 -0000, HyperReal-Anon wrote: >>And while we're being hypocritical and stealing (oh, it's okay because it's >>for "education"), maybe we ought to educate about why spam is bad, and how >>crypto may help end spam. > >Its not stealing because only the Govt can identify crimes. And they >haven't. No, it's stealing. The government doesn't call the Waco incident murder, but that doesn't make it okay. >Legal Junk mail doesn't steal time? Legal Solicitors' phone calls don't >steal? Taxes don't steal? Courtroom injustice isn't a theft of rights? 1) Yes, but at least the person sending it paid for it. It doesn't consume any resources from the recipient, other than mailbox space which the government claims it owns anyway. The postal service has to store and deliver it, but they got paid for it. When you get it, you're perfectly free to cram it back in the outgoing mail slot like I do. 2) They steal time and they're very annoying, but they don't steal money per se. If they're long distance the caller pays for it. Most people are annoyed by these. The anti-phone-soliciting action is to never buy from those companies. 3) Taxes are theft at the point of a gun. You won't find much argument about that here. There will be argument when it comes to the complete elimination of taxes because that generally means the almost complete elimination of services. 4) Of course it is. Just because all four of those things are legal in one way or another doesn't mean that we should support it. I can walk outside and insult random people to their face, but that dosen't mean I should. Just because you *can* do something and you have some reason to do something doesn't mean that you *should* do it, particularly if there are better ways. > >>Right. About the only thing you people are going to accomplish is to >>alienate anybody who might care what you have to say. > >The message must be phrased correctly. The phrasing has nothing to do with it. The method of delivery does. > >>While you're spamming, >>maybe you can even make the Cypherpunks look really bad. > >Who mentioned any mailing list? This would be a private matter. Apparently this is beyond your comprehension, so I'll explain it in explicit terms. You will likely direct people to FIJA. First off, when you send the spam FIJA and their upstream sites are going to get all sorts of complaints, and rightly so. The site it originates from will also get flooded. Assuming FIJA is still online a few hours later, they will probably wind up on spam block lists. If you spam through anonymous remailers, they'll wind up on spam blocking lists all over the place. If you falsify an origin address, it will also get flooded with complaints. Even mentioning FIJA is going to get them flooded with complaints. You also make the mistake of assuming that most people read spam. They don't. It just annoys them. If you spam through anonymous remailers, you further the theories of some people that they are simply abuse havens. This is not a positive thing for the remailers. The Cypherpunks are associated with the remailers, so it isn't a positive thing for us either, even though we'll only be implicated several steps down. >>After all, the ends always justify the means. When the USG wants to storm >>your home with a squad of ninjas, that's okay, so long as they're checking >>for drugs or other evil things. Since it will keep us all safe, let's >>eliminate privacy rights. > >Alls fair in love and war. If such tactics are fair, then why are we worrying about distributing FIJA literature? The government has our best interests at heart, after all. Whatever. >>The idea of spamming for "educational purposes" is the most obscene and > >The sheeple who haven't figured out how to filter spam are the ones >most in need of education. Do it for the children. For the future >generations. The best thing to do "for the children" is to kick the clueless masses off the Internet and turn it back into the academic area it used to be. Good has come out of the commercialization of the Internet, but by no means does it outweigh the bad. The best thing to do "for future generations" is to revoke the voting rights of welfare maggots. I don't see it happening very soon. >The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good to do nothing. Or for good to use the means of the evil to express their good ideas, in the process becoming the very thing they are fighting against. >Or just carry on with the same old same old, if that's what makes you feel >better. Best not to make waves, after all. Might scare the horses. Make a web site. Put it in your signature. Have others put it in their signatures. Have people link to it from their pages. Advertise in *appropriate* forums in appropriate manners. It's threads like this that make me wonder what it really means to be a Cypherpunk today. If the Cypherpunks (in the democratic sense) actually support this, it is a sad day indeed. As far as I'm concerned, go ahead and spam. You'll probably make FIJA look like idiots, get some anonymous remailer sites shut down if you spam through them, screw over any site even remotely mentioned in the spam, get us blasted all over the abuse forums because it has been discussed here recently, and accomplish the exact opposite of our goals. But go ahead if that's what makes you feel better.

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Y2K OFFICIALS CONVENE, CONFESS
by Pallas Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Attendees of a meeting convened by the United Nations confirmed that while central banking and telecommunications systems in many countries are making progress toward Y2K compliance, many other necessary systems still need help. Those include electrical power systems, global shipping systems, the linkages between telecommunications systems, and SWIFT, a system for exchanging financial information. The U.N. meeting was the first time top Y2K officials were brought together. "One of the goals of this meeting is to identify the senior executives who are dealing with the problem," says the chairman of the U.S. President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion. "We want the delegates to go home with a knowledge of faces and with agreements on going forward. We don't have time to go through normal diplomatic channels." More than 100 officials attended the meeting. (TechWeb 14 Dec 98) #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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How to Spot a Government Infiltrator
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How to Spot a Government Infiltrator by Mike Johnson Those who have been studying the stories released to the media these days about the arrests of various different people within the militia movement will doubtlessly have noted that government infiltrators are usually involved. This should make people nervous. And rightly so. Our normal view of government is that the only people who should have to worry about what the government is up to are people who are breaking the law. As the vast majority of constitutional militia units are composed of people who are of good character and don't go around breaking the law to begin with, they might feel that they should have little to worry about from the government. Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case. The government appears to be going all out to discredit the constitutional militia movement in this country. This effort on the part of the government does include the use of government agents to infiltrate militia units and cause as many problems, hate and discontent as they possibly can. In many instances, these government agents may not be readily apparent as to who and what they are. Some of these people may have had extensive experience in working undercover operations and may not make some of the more stupid mistakes. There are a variety of different roles that such government operatives may play. The first is that they may simply act as a mole. They will do everything anybody else in the unit does, and do nothing at all to call undue attention to themselves. However, they will relay everything that goes on within the unit to their handlers. About the only indication a unit may have that they have been infiltrated by a mole may be that they can't seem to be able to keep anything a secret. This type of role is the most difficult for a unit to detect and deal with. Which is also possibly why most of the spy novels that get written deal with various different ways to smoke out moles. While I wouldn't suggest that anybody try a technique for which the only source of documentation is a work of fiction, it is an indication of just how obnoxious this type of agent could be to deal with. Another role that a government agent might play may be that of a dissipator. A dissipator is one who tries to redirect the course and energy of a unit in ways which will cause it to accomplish nothing of any importance. They may also act so as to break a unit up by emphasizing differences, disagreements and personality clashes between unit members. Given that the people who are attracted to the constitutionalist militia movement usually tend to be strong willed and opinionated people to begin with, such an agent may find that his task is somewhat easier than it might be if he were working with other groups. Unit members should simply be encouraged not to take things personally, be aware that there will be honest differences of opinion between the members of the unit, and to be wary of somebody who does try to take everything personally, or set up cliques within the unit. The final role which will be discussed is that of the agent provocateur. Such an agent infiltrates a unit and tries to get the members of the unit to actually commit crimes, or make it look like they are actually planning to commit crimes. One should also bear in mind that a government agent is not going to be confined to operating within any one of the roles that have been discussed, and may likely mix and match as they feel best. However, the role that has received the highest profile in government operations these days is that of the agent provocateur. That is largely because the results of an operation conducted by an agent provocateur or two make for good propaganda when the media gets hold of it. The resultant publicity given to the arrests and the charges gets used to brand everybody in the entire movement as a criminal. The fact that the entire thing was set up by someone in the employ of the government isn't going to be mentioned at all by the mainstream media. For those who haven't caught on by now, your antenna should start to quiver in the presence of any one, or especially a combination of the following behaviors/patterns demonstrated by a unit member: (1) Wants to make bombs. (2) Wants to get everybody else to make bombs. (3) Wants people to buy/store large quantities of substances which could be used for explosives manufacture. (4) Fanatic about obtaining fully automatic weapons, without benefit of Class III license. (5) No obvious means of support, especially if they have lots of money to throw around. (6) Auto license tag changed on an irregular basis. (7) Encourages people to plan/do stupid things (raid armories, blow up office buildings, etc.) (8) Some groups can get auto tags run. They should be especially suspicious of anybody whose auto tag turns up a complete blank when run. (9) In our case, the guy was absolutely paranoid about his car being out of either his sight or his "wife's" sight for even a trivial amount of time. (10) Person claims to have a military background that they do not have. One individual claimed to be former Special Forces, but was found to be ignorant of some of the things that he should have known when quizzed by people who were former Special Forces. Depending on the level of trust that the members of your group have with each other, it might be a good idea to request to see the DD-214s of anybody claiming to have a military background. (11) One of your members has taken effective action to expose or block activities of the police or government preventing the expansion of or preservation of government power to control people and/or invade the privacy of the people. (12) One of your members (a) has an FFL; or (b) is involved in selling at gun shows; or (c) Is involved in promoting gun shows. Arguably the best way to deal with people who meet criteria 1-10 is simply to invite them to leave the unit. As Starr and McCranie found out, trying to turn them in will do no good at all, so the next best bet is to try to get them to leave. Failing that, disband unit, start again from scratch with people you can trust after sufficient elapsed time. Given the way things are going right now, those who have not joined up with public units may want to consider forming small closed units with just a small group of people that they have known for a long time and that they trust. For persons in 11, and 12: Do your best to be sure the goons cannot find a pretext as that is what they often work from. (*) Bill Albert of the Michigan Militia contributed to the list of items to look for and the discussion which follows it.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

<http://www2.clinet.fi/~msihvo/files/crossbows.html> "If you don't learn how to beat your plowshares into swords before they outlaw swords, then you sure as HELL ought to learn before they outlaw plowshares too. " --Chuck Hammill #!/usr/local/bin/perl -0777-- -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RC4-3-lines-PERL @k=unpack('C*',pack('H*',shift));for(@t=@s=0..255){$y=($k[$_%@k]+$s[$x=$_ ]+$y)%256;&S}$x=$y=0;for(unpack('C*',<>)){$x++;$y=($s[$x%=256]+$y)%256; &S;print pack(C,$_^=$s[($s[$x]+$s[$y])%256])}sub S{@s[$x,$y]=@s[$y,$x]}

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