December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Group to Attack Clinton on Crypto
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Tue Feb 24 21:27:15 1998 > To: ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk > Subject: Group to Attack Clinton on Crypto > > >From http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,19388,00.html > > Group to Attack Clinton on Crypto > By Courtney Macavinta > Staff Writer, CNET NEWS.COM > February 23, 1998, 2:40 p.m. PT > > A bipartisan group of politicos, high-tech companies, > and privacy advocates will announce a broad coalition > next week to overturn the White House's current > encryption policy through a million-dollar media blitz > and lobbying campaign, CNET's NEWS.COM has > learned. # # ####### # ### # # # # # ### # # # # # ### # ##### # # # # # ####### # # # # ### # ####### # # ### ---guy Poor grumpy William H. Geiger III, odd-man-out.

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In todays CyberTimes--"European Study Paints a Chilling Portrai
by Charles Anthony 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI - In today's CyberTimes: "European Study Paints a Chilling Portrait of Technology's Uses" By BRUNO GIUSSANI " A massive telecommunications interception network operates within Europe and, according to a new study circulating on the Internet, "targets the telephone, fax and e-mail messages of private citizens, politicians, trade unionists and companies alike." The article can be found at: http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/euro/022498euro.html

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Re: In todays CyberTimes--"European Study Paints a Chilling Portrai
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: "Charles Anthony" <canthony(a)info-nation.com> > The article can be found at: > > http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/euro/022498euro.html "The network, dubbed Echelon, is described in a new study by the European Parliament titled 'An Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control.'" It's high time Don Mclean (sic) or someone took the extensive documentation collected in the Cryptography Manifesto regarding this, which includes massive USA domestic spying, and started writing news stories about it, and get other news organizations interested in the questions raised. Questions to be put to Senators. Why? Because it is ECHELON, not pedophiles, not drug dealers, that is not only the hold-up for freely exportable software, but also for why the FBI has openly moved to regulate all domestic cryptography into oblivion. The story of massive spying is one "the American people" can understand. Cryptography is too distant. Go for it, someone, please. ---guy No one listens to me.

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NYT on Crypto Smoke
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New York Times, February 27, 1998, p. D1. Clinton Continues to Stumble Over the 'E' Word (Encryption) By John Markoff San Francisco, Feb. 26 -- President Clinton described the economic impact of the Internet today in glowing terms to an audience of technology investors here, but he failed to touch on the issue that increasingly appears to matter most to Silicon Valley: the fiery debate over the Administration's policy on data scrambling. The Clinton Administration has endeared itself to the nation's high-technology center by cutting capital gains taxes and by calling today for a bill that would bar state and local governments from enacting taxes on the Internet until 2004. But encryption may prove to be the Administration's Achilles' heel in its otherwise friendly ties with Silicon Valley. The debate over encryption -- which has pitted industry and civil liberties groups against law enforcement and intelligence agencies -- has sharpened in recent weeks. New legislation that would restrict the unlimited use of encryption is about to be introduced on Capitol Hill. A series of intense behind-the-scenes negotiations over a compromise solution between the Clinton Administration and a small group of high-technology executives suggests that no simple resolution is in sight. Encryption policy has become a flash point because it is both essential for the growth of Internet commerce and vital for the protection of privacy. Techniques that use mathematical formulas permit computers to scramble data so they cannot be read without access to a special "key," usually a large number that permits a user to unscramble the information. Law enforcement officials want to force users to put such keys in escrow with independent authorities to allow for electronic surveillance in criminal investigations. President Clinton has told Silicon Valley executives in private meetings that he is sympathetic with their viewpoint but that he is under great pressure from law enforcement and national security officials to put even greater controls in place on encryption technology. "To us this is really important, but it's just an irritant to him," said one Silicon Valley executive who met with the President before his speech today and asked not be identified further. "His basic message to us was, 'Can we get this thing done?' " Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and Bob Kerrey, Democrat of Nebraska, are circulating a revised version of their encryption bill, which includes several changes in response to industry and privacy concerns but it has so far won few adherents outside of the law-enforcement community. Critics say the legislation is simply a placeholder for future laws that would restrict the use of the technology. "Everyone who is looking at the export issue is looking at it as a prelude to domestic controls," said Mark Rasch, a former Federal prosecutor who is now a specialist in encryption and computer security issues at the Science Applications International Corporation in McLean, Va. Industry opponents of encryption controls, heavily financed by high-technology companies, are preparing to announce on Wednesday a new coalition, Americans for Privacy, aimed at ending restrictions on encryption technology exports. At the same time Hewlett Packard plans to announce on Friday a new set of encryption technologies, with endorsements from the Department of Commerce and companies like I.B.M.. These technologies known as the International Cryptographic Framework, would let individual governments establish potentially conflicting encryption policies -- or even place no restrictions. Silicon Valley executives argue that the law-enforcement demand for the continued ability to wiretap in the information age is wishful thinking at best. The easy availability of powerful encryption software has made it possible for any two people, anywhere in the world to hold a secret conversation beyond the prying of even the most powerful code-breaking computer, they say. The White House is now considering several other industry proposals intent on finding a compromise between industry and law enforcement interests. Another approach that is now being raised in negotiations between industry executives and the White House has been put forth by executives from Cisco Systems, the company that is the dominate provider of Internet routing equipment. The Cisco proposal, known as Clearzone, would place encryption in the network instead of from personal computer to personal computer. Then, if a law-enforcement agency had a warrant to wiretap, it would be possible to go to an Internet provider that could then turn off encryption. But this proposal makes no provision for retrieving stored information also sought by law-enforcement agents. [Photo] President Clinton and Sandy Robertson of BancAmerica Robertson Stephens, at a conference of technology executives and investors in San Francisco yesterday. [End]

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17 Dec '03

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Fight ECHELON while the topic is hot!
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 98 09:16:29 -0500 > > >It's high time Don Mclean (sic) or someone took the > >extensive documentation collected in the Cryptography > >Manifesto regarding this, which includes massive USA domestic spying, and > >started writing news stories about it, and > >get other news organizations interested in the questions > >raised. Questions to be put to Senators. > > >Why? > > >Because it is ECHELON, not pedophiles, not drug dealers, > >that is not only the hold-up for freely exportable > >software, but also for why the FBI has openly moved > >to regulate all domestic cryptography into oblivion. > > >The story of massive spying is one "the American people" > >can understand. Cryptography is too distant. > > >Go for it, someone, please. > > The sheeple don't care. > > The sheeple are well aware of the abuses of power by our government and > they don't care nor have they cared for a long time. So long as they have > a roof over their heads, cloths on their back, a color TV and their > microwave dinners they are willing to let the government do whatever they > want. Whooey! I'd say a number of senior people on this list are burnt out fighting the good fight. Did the government at least acknowledge it fucked up in the Weaver case to the tune of $3.1 million? Didn't the person in charge, who Freeh promoted to second-in-command at the FBI, have his career destroyed? Didn't the government finally back down on their attempt to legally kill the Unabomber? Didn't the Pentagon Papers make it out? Isn't ECHELON documented by person after person, including someone formerly in DOJ with top-secret clearance? Go for it! It is *you* who are advocating being a "sheeple"!!! ---guy Shame on you.

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Killing the Unabomber
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From wendigo(a)ne-wendigo.jabberwock.org Tue Feb 24 23:43:50 1998 > > An entity claiming to be Information Security wrote: > : > : Didn't the government finally back down on their > : attempt to legally kill the Unabomber? > > This point strikes me as pretty funny. Kinda like a nurse rooting > for Charles Starkweather. > > Mark Or trying to be consistent. Raygun: abortion is killing, but pro-death penalty. If killing is wrong, killing again is wrong. Also, there is the part about his brother turning him in to get help (UB tried to get mental help, but couldn't get it), and didn't turn him in to get killed. Next time, the killer might not be caught because the person who recognized (yea traffic analysis) his talktalk might not want them killed as a result. i.e. in the long run it will save lives. ---guy No: "Live and Let Die".

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Re: Fight ECHELON while the topic is hot!
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From whgiii(a)invweb.net Tue Feb 24 11:15:11 1998 > > >It is *you* who are advocating being a "sheeple"!!! > > No not at all I just don't have any pie-in-the-sky daydreams that it will > mean squat! I have better things to do with my time than dealing with a > news media who's highest goal is to sell more tampons and toilet paper to > the sheeple. I said to go for it and *try* for results. If you want to act like a disgruntled old Andy Rooney and say "it won't make any difference", fine, but why drag down everyone else? The EU, not just anybody, but the EU, is talking about massive NSA spying via ECHELON! ---guy Turn up the heat.

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Re: Cypherpunk Policeman?
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Guy wrote: > Has 'cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net' replaced 'cypherpunks(a)toad.com'? Apparently it hasn't, because I never got a copy of my own post back. So, here it is again... > From aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk Mon Feb 23 16:26:58 1998 > > Guy <guy(a)panix.com> claims that he managed to persuade PSInet (who > Dimitri used as his ISP) to pull his plug. Leaving him with full access to a minimum of three other accounts. Don't cry for him, Ukrainia... > I'd just like to feed back to Guy that I think this is uncool, and > that it is counter productive. Hey, maybe _you_ would get a warm and fuzzy feeling when Dimitry posts a death threat (including to this list) and signs your name: not me. ! I will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to whomever KILLS ! Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa. ! I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on http://www.panix.com/~guy ! ---guy > Guy, you may not have hit it off with Dimitri, but this is no reason > to go attempting to censor people. Ever heard of a kill file? Censor? Yeah, and the "Freedom Fighters" who are against any spam cancellation do so because they are fighting "censorship". I don't think so. > As an aside I don't think getting into a dirty tricks contest with > Dimitri is a good idea, I am pretty sure Dimitri could win by a large > margin if he cared to. No dirty tricks involved: I complained to PSINet using traffic analysis. If he had simply called me a cocksucker, I would not have complained. > Guy <guy(a)panix.com> writes: > > PSINet terminated Vulis for stalking, which I documented he did to a > > minimum of four people. > > What is your working definition of stalking as applied to a mailing > list, USENET or email? What are you talking about? In addition to death threats, forging death threats: he tries to get people fired from their jobs. But Dimitry can't figure out where I work (MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA), reducing him to saying I was fired from where I _used to_ work. <snicker> This stalking: attempting to deprive someone of their right to work. ---- > From tcmay(a)got.net Mon Feb 23 17:14:50 1998 > > At 1:24 PM -0800 2/23/98, Adam Back wrote: > >Guy <guy(a)panix.com> claims that he managed to persuade PSInet (who > >Dimitri used as his ISP) to pull his plug. > > > >I'd just like to feed back to Guy that I think this is uncool, and > >that it is counter productive. > > > >Guy, you may not have hit it off with Dimitri, but this is no reason > >to go attempting to censor people. Ever heard of a kill file? > > I agree with Adam. As one who has borne a frontal assault of Vulis' insults > and raves, and (in all probability his) ASCII artwork, I dealt with it by > filtering as much of it as I could into a trash file. Oh, great, an independently wealthy person is telling me it's not a problem that a known stalker has posted angrily to this list asking if anyone knows where I work. > In my 10 years of actively being on the Net (though my first ARPANet > account was in 1973), I've complained a handful of times to postmasters, > and only _once_ because of content. The rest were about spam, mail bombs, > etc. > > The one content-based complaint I made was about Lawrence Detweiler's > attachment of my name to pro-Hitler, anti-Jewish rants he sent to > newsgroups like alt.culture.jewish and alt.culture.german. Then please explain why you agree with Adam, since I decided to complain to PSINet about Vulis stalking me and signing my name to death threats? > If Vulis can have his account yanked for calling Guy a pedophile, what > about all those who have called Arthur C. Clarke a pedophile? > > Has there been any determination (and what does that mean anyway?) as to > whether either Guy or Clarke are pedophiles? Ahhh, that's the wrong question. Look past your nose. Calling me a pedophile is one part of Vulis' patented style of stalking attacks. Add to that him saying I was fired from consulting work for being a pedophile, asking if anyone knows where I now work, etc: stalking. It wasn't merely him being insulting, but part of a larger Simon-Barr-Sinister pattern of behavior. Certain behavior is not permissible regardless of the venue. Not a direct analogy, but: you would censor (CENSOR! CENSOR!) people who work for you who wanted to speak "Ebonics" on the job. Gosh, how dare you deprive them of their right to free speech!. ---- > From aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk Mon Feb 23 21:35:47 1998 > > John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> writes: > > Since Guy's death notice Dimitri's telephone has not answered > > several tries. The number of his sig: 1-718-261-2013, in Brooklyn > > across floater bay from here. > > > > Was he whacked as well as unplugged? Or is he hiding from the > > peds, plotting anthrax terror posing as Jim Kallstrom? > > OK, Guy, could you fill us in on what exactly you did to get PSInet to > pull Dimitri's plug? Exactly what I said: I submitted traffic analysis reports ("the big picture") regarding Vulis' stalking activity via PSINet to their legal people. I have previously posted to this list a dejanews URL for an early traffic analysis report on him that I posted to Usenet. It was like that, only more complete and specifically oriented towards getting him spanked. > Did it involve calls to law enforcement? No. He used an anonymous remailer for the death threat. His personal stalking of me didn't get far before I blew him off PSINet. I'm sure he's learned his lesson. ;-) He's still here, but sulking silently. He's run out of dirty tricks. > Is it likely that your claims would have been relayed by PSI to law > enforcement? Oh, I _wish_ I had that kind of influence. Of course, in the Cryptography Manifesto polemic, I have said not-nice things about law enforcement, as part of complaining about Key Recovery and the general Orwellian state of affairs. Guy's CM: Louis Freeh is a Scary Man with the morals of a styrofoam cup. On the other hand, I do believe most FBI personnel are good people who perform an invaluable service for all of us. Guy's CM: This posting isn't about the many good FBI and other law enforcement people. Gee, could I do a better job of offending both "sides"? ;-) > If you have taken this far enough to get Dimitri into legal trouble, > and your claims are untrue, or exaggerated, I think you owe it to > Dimitri to try to undo some of this stuff fast! Hell. Freeze. Over. > What did you tell PSInet? I documented his stalking behavior via PSINet, documented that he had begun stalking me via PSINet, and stated that if they didn't terminate him and he continued stalking me, I would sue them. And that the traffic analysis report they were holding was what a jury would use to decide PSINet was liable for their continued (after _years_ of people's complaints) inaction. ---guy With Vulis, the best defense is a good offense.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael Elder wrote: > > trei(a)ziplink.net wrote: > > >>Applied Cryptography: Protocols, Algorithms, and Source Code in C, > >Second Edition, by Bruce Schneier. Copyright 1995, John Wiley & Sons, > >Inc. All rights reserved. > >For those wondering: Applied Cryptography includes the source code > >appendix. I have not checked if it has the 5th printing corrections. > > Just a little note of interest, AC is currently in its sixth printing. I > just got it last week. > > -E. I noticed the sixth printing in Barnes and Noble 2 weeks ago. I didn't have too long to peruse thru it... Are there any big error corrections/ other reasons to pay any close attention to the new printing? -Anon

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