December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: URGENT BUY ALTER!
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17 Dec '03

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Encrypted FS for Linux
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know this was discussed recently, but I don't recall seeing the answer. Are there any recent cryptographic filesystem patches for Linux (preferably later 2.1 kernels) which implement at LEAST CAST-128 and IDEA?

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Y2K is coming, and boy, is it pissed?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

;-) Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com X-Sender: believer(a)telepath.com Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 07:20:06 -0600 To: believer(a)telepath.com From: believer(a)telepath.com Subject: IP: 25% of Christians Expect Christ's Return in Their Lifetimes Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-ignition-point(a)majordomo.pobox.com Precedence: list Reply-To: believer(a)telepath.com Source: NandoNet http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/nation/102498/nation1_27950_noframes.html Third Millennium's approach raises end-time hopes, fears Copyright © 1998 The Associated Press WASHINGTON (October 24, 1998 08:50 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -- Jesus Christ is about to return, and the 1,500 folks packed into the Sheraton Washington ballroom couldn't be happier. For 16 hours a day, the End-Time Handmaidens pray and sway, singing of the day they will "dance on streets that are golden." Around them, middle-aged women clad in white and gold robes glide through the aisles while other believers blow into rams' horns, their shrieks announcing the Second Coming. The end is near. The end-timers are here. "We're running out of time. We're running out of time," Sister Gwen Shaw, the group's septuagenarian matriarch, says at the Handmaidens' annual convention in 1997. "This is God's last call." While these Handmaidens may be on America's evangelical fringe, their beliefs about the millennium and Christ's Second Coming are remarkably mainstream. According to a 1997 Associated Press poll, nearly one out of every four Christian adults -- an estimated 26.5 million people -- expect Jesus to arrive in their lifetimes. Nearly as many -- an estimated 21.1 million Americans -- are so sure of it that they feel an urgent need to convert friends and neighbors. The results are consistent with other surveys that have found a widespread belief in the Second Coming. But the AP poll, conducted last spring by ICR of Media, Pa., probes how Christians are acting on their beliefs. The most fervent end-timers gather at prophecy conventions such as this one in Washington, but their dreams and fears reverberate throughout the country. America may have already entered what one apocalyptic scholar calls the "hot zone" of end-time speculation: The year 2000 is far enough away to be plausible as Christ's Second Coming, yet close enough to spark intense proselytizing. "I look at prophecy as a Polaroid picture that takes five minutes to develop," says Zola Levitt, a Dallas evangelist on The Family Channel. "I'd say we're at four minutes, 55 seconds." At the end-timers' convention, believers pay hundreds of dollars for Jewish liturgical instruments fashioned from rams' horns -- for the chance to play their own small part in announcing the Second Coming. In unpracticed hands, these shofars sound like a third-grade orchestra warming up. Others, both in and out of the mainstream, are also blowing horns of warning. There are best-sellers such as Pat Robertson's "The End of the Age." Scores of broadcasters, from Jack Van Impe to Hal Lindsey, have preached of the end times. And the Internet offers more than 100 popular millennial sites, including This Week in Bible Prophecy and End Times Links. For evangelical Christians, the Second Coming is what's new about the new millennium. According to the AP poll, almost 40 percent of Christians expect Jesus to arrive in the 21st century, if not sooner. They are looking past Jesus' own admonition that "no one knows the hour." By their reckoning of Biblical clues, the time is soon. Belief in Jesus' return has underpinned Christianity from its earliest days. Each week, Christians throughout the world recite the Apostle's Creed, invoking Jesus who "will come again to judge the living and the dead." Each day, many begin The Lord's Prayer, passed down by Jesus, with "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come...." But what makes today's prayers so earnest? What separates this generation of end-time prophets from those of the last two millennia? Israel. The New Testament compares the kingdom of God, near at hand, to the growth of a fig tree. Some believers substitute Israel for the tree. They say the Second Coming is near at hand when the tree shoots forth branches -- when Israel becomes a nation. And that happened in 1948. "Verily I say unto you, 'This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled,"' Jesus says in Luke 21:32. Since many end-time prophets also place the apocalyptic Armageddon in Israel, developments there continue to stir interest. In 1967, when Israel reclaimed much of Jerusalem from Jordan, the prophecy in Luke was only strengthened. During the 1991 war between the United States and Iraq, many evangelists -- from Billy Graham to John Walvoord, chancellor of the Dallas Theological Seminary -- envisioned the beginning of the end. And when the 1993 Mideast peace pact was signed, radio evangelist Monte Judah of Norman, Okla., identified the beginning of seven years' tribulation heralding the Second Coming. For evangelicals, signs of the end can be found anywhere, anytime. Worldwide disasters -- floods, wars, earthquakes -- are what Jesus, in the Gospel of Matthew, told followers to look for. The Hale-Bopp comet, famine in Africa, developments in the European Common Market, even the convergence of full moons and Jewish religious festivals -- all are sifted for clues of the apocalypse. "There's a lot happening in our time that would give most people a concern and an excitement that the Lord is going to return," Thomas A. McMahon says. He is executive director of the Berean Call, a religious newsletter out of Bend, Ore., that circulates to 80,000 Christians. "Every day has significance. Every political, social, economic event has significance," says Phillip Lucas, general editor of Nova Religio: The Journal of Alternative and Emergent Religions. "Your whole experience of time is greatly heightened." If the time is near, why not sometime around the year 2000? For end-timers who cite a divine plan, great things tend to happen in 2,000-year periods. Abraham and Isaac, patriarchs who established a covenant between God and humans, were born around 2000 B.C. Two millennia later, Christians believe, God became man with the birth of Jesus. Those who believe human history is 6,000 years old wait with special expectancy. Consider the mathematics in Peter's Second Letter: "One day with the Lord is as a thousand years." For these believers, the new millennium starts on the seventh day of creation. For them, after 6,000 years of strife and turmoil, it's time for 1,000 years of heavenly rest as Jesus rules over the Kingdom of God on Earth. "A lot of people think maybe the year 2000," says Leon Bates, head of the Bible Believers' Evangelistic Association in Sherman, Texas. "I would go along with the thought that it would be just like the Lord to have an overall 7,000-year plan." Oleeta Herrmann believes the end could come any time. She traveled to the end-timers' convention from Xenia, Ohio, where three 25-foot crosses in her back yard warn neighbors to get right with God. Like others at the convention, she has heard the rustle of angels preparing the way of the Lord. One night, she says, Jesus appeared in her bedroom to reassure her that nieces and nephews would not be left behind when she is lifted into the clouds to join others in her family who have died. "You're bringing the rest of them with you," were the Lord's words, she says. Willie Mae Johnson, at the convention from Lighthouse Free Methodist Church in St. Louis, has no such assurances. What will happen to her father, her children and other relatives who have not accepted Christ? She is beginning to waver as 2000 approaches. "I don't want to leave anyone behind, so you say yeah, and you say no," she says. "I want Jesus to come back right now, but just wait a little while, Jesus." Even vendors at the end-timers' convention raise provocative questions, selling T-shirts that feature three frogs plopped on a lily pad and asking: "Where are you goin' when you croak?" Many people are not going to make it through the tribulation. "He has given us ... a burden for lost souls," says the Rev. Dorothy Mottern, accompanied to the convention by church members from Fredericksburg, Va. For those who read Revelation as a literal forecast, the future is frightening for people without God's seal on their foreheads. In that Book, a third of the Earth burns, and angels kill a third of those who survive. For others, torture is so severe that "people will seek death, but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will flee from them." Warnings like these can change lifestyles. In the AP poll, 98 percent of those who believe Jesus will return in their lifetimes say they urgently need to get right with God. About 21.1 million Americans, the poll estimates, have decided to get others right, too, wanting to convert friends, neighbors and relatives. Among age groups, the urgency is felt most widely among Baby Boomers. By region, it is most prevalent in the South. This urgency has created sweeping evangelistic campaigns. Celebrate Jesus 2000, a coalition of evangelical churches and ministries, wants to reach the "entire nation for Christ" by the third millennium. In an unprecedented action, the 15 million-member Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination, in 1996 vowed to make special efforts to evangelize the Jews. Of course, the end of the world has been predicted many times before. But dates for the Second Coming have come and gone. In the 1840s, followers of William Miller quit jobs, sold belongings and moved to upstate New York to await the return of Jesus. He didn't come. Two successful churches arose from the Millerite Movement: The Seventh-day Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses. Both continue to anticipate the end-times but no longer specify the date. Charles Taze Russell, founder of the modern-day Witnesses, predicted that the millennial age would begin in 1914. World War I raised hopes he was right, but the movement's catchword -- "Millions now living will never die" -- gradually lost its urgency. Two years ago, the Witnesses officially dismissed date-setting as speculation, declaring Jesus was right that "no one knows the place and the time." The Worldwide Church of God also no longer sets dates for the end-times, partly because founder Herbert W. Armstrong was so often wrong. Hal Lindsey's "Late Great Planet Earth" raised end-time fears in the 1970s. Now he has a new best seller, "Planet Earth - 2000 A.D." So what will happen this time, if life goes on? Some worry that fringe end-times movements may act in increasingly desperate ways. They point to the mass suicides of the Heaven's Gate and Branch Davidian communities, whose charismatic leaders believed they had special word from God about end-times. However, most experts on evangelical Christianity think believers will accept delays -- and perhaps even be a bit relieved. In the AP poll, only 61 percent of Christian respondents who believe Jesus will arrive in their lifetime are praying for his quick return. Walvoord, of the Dallas Theological Seminary, says it reminds him of a Sunday school teacher who asked the class who wants to go to heaven. When only one boy failed to raise his hand, the teacher asked: "Don't you want to go?" "Yeah," the boy replied, "but I thought you were getting a load to go right now." By DAVID BRIGGS, AP Religion Writer ----------------------- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ----------------------- **************************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo(a)majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address or (un)subscribe ignition-point-digest email@address **************************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **************************************************** --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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what's related to what's related
by evan.cordes＠UMICH.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Bernard A. Galler" <galler(a)umich.edu> Subject: Fwd: IP: Netscape's XML App -- or what is really What's Related Newsgroups: umich.interesting.people Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:52:32 -0500 >Delivered-To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com >X-Sender: dfarber(a)mail.earthlink.net >Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:44:28 -0400 >To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com >From: Dave Farber <farber(a)cis.upenn.edu> >Subject: IP: Netscape's XML App -- or what is really What's Related >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Sender: owner-ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com >Precedence: list >Reply-To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu >Status: > >Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:23:37 GMT >From: dwiner(a)well.com (DaveNet email) >Subject: Netscape's XML App > >------------------------------------- >>From Scripting News... It's DaveNet! >Released on 10/24/98; 8:23:30 AM PST >------------------------------------- > > Yesterday I got an email from Jeff Veen at Wired pointing me to the > server that Netscape is running its What's Related? application on. > This server is part of the project they did with Alexa Internet, and > it's the back-end for the What's Related? feature in Netscape 4.5. > > I had a little time to kill, was looking for a diversion, so I sent a > message to Netscape's server via script and I was blown away. It's > XML! Yes it is. And why, oh why, didn't they tell anyone? (Or did I miss > something?) > > Anyway, I wrote an app that talks to their server. It interfaces thru > an HTML form. You enter the URL of a site, and I find out what's related, > with a twist. The URL to the related site links back to the form, and I do > a lookup on *that* site, allowing you to interactively walk their > tree of relationships. > > This is just a demonstration. I want to be sure that people interested > in building XML apps have a way to experience the XMLness of what > Netscape has done, which is very interesting, for sure. > > Here's the link to my app: > > <http://nirvana.userland.com/whatsRelated/> > > Hope you like it! > > ***Absence makes the heart do what? > > Oh baby, so sorry to be gone for so long. > > Sometimes the most important thing is being heard. > > And sometimes it's most important to say nothing. > > For the last four weeks I haven't had much to say. I've been busy and > quiet and more productive than I can remember ever being. What am I > doing? Building cool servers and editors, of course! > > Stay tuned... > > Dave Winer > >------------------------------------------- >Scripting News: <http://www.scripting.com/> > Bernard A. Galler E-mail: galler(a)umich.edu Fax: 734-668-9998

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Re: so, what did Toto *do*, exactly to get locked up? (Re: rules of en (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:00:01 +0100 (CET) > From: DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User <nobody(a)seclab.com> > Subject: Re: so, what did Toto *do*, exactly to get locked up? (Re: rules of en > > This does raise an interesting point about freedom of speech and the duties > > of LEA's. In a democratic society what are the ethical implications of LEA's > > archiving publicly available documents as a matter of course, not for > > inclusion in ongoing investigations but rather as a base for future > > investigations. > > Echelon. Also see [*1 below] No, you silly boy. Too simple an answer and not really relevant to the question I asked; I doubt the IRS is greatly interested in Echelon. Besides, I was pondering *ethical issues* not the reality of the world. > remailers are carriers. ECPA says that if you do not review content, you aren't > responsible for it. Does it really cover archives? Why are archivers carriers? They are certainly doing more than simply transfering data from here to there. They're making sure you can do it whenever. Further, there is a nagging implication of 'real-time' in that review stipulation. > Archivers are content providers. They have to make do with a 1st ammendment > fig leaf. So to be qualified the content must be publicly accessible? Or is private access ok as well? Is 'content provider' the same as 'content carrier'? > [hey, Jim really is protected. He's not even allowed to read CDR mail.] What a silly interpretation. I am subscribed just like anyone else, of course I can read the traffic. Near as I can tell I just can't read it *before* everyone else gets to read it (ie on the outbound leg of its journey through SSZ). > [preamble] Want to clarify that comment? (it's a joke) > ECPA) were paramount in the suit. The plaintiffs claimed the > Secret Service violated two provisions -- one prohibiting > unjustified "disclosure and use" of e-mail (18 U.S.C. 2703; the This aspect clearly isn't going to apply to a publicly accessible mailing list since it's going to be very near impossible to argue for any right to privacy since a submitter *wants* others to see their traffic and there is the implied intent to distribute without restriction (at least on the cpunks). > other prohibiting "interception" of e-mail (18 U.S.C. 22511(1)). This would prevent me or anyone else, at least on the surface of it, from getting at the content *prior* to the distribution phase. > [*1 Interesting. Maybe they have Toto for something intercepted illegally > and they're trying to find it from another source (by subpoena).] I suspect they have Toto for something in meatspace and not specificaly for something on this mailing list. Near as I can figure they're trolling the list to get ancillary evidence of intent and potentialy evidence of accomplices. > [re: public domain software on ftp archives] > > It matters not, IMHO, since an ftp archive site qualifies as a library > open to the public. Which means what? At this point the contents of such a site are clearly intended for review without constraint on the end use, at least I've never had a public library employee or ftp operator ask me what I'm wanting the info for. Or is the implication that such a site would be protected from monitoring prior to the files being placed in the archive? ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Feds Seize Houses for Illegal Downloading
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:08 AM 10/25/98 -0000, Secret Squirrel wrote: >What are they going to do, launch a cruise missile strike on the server and >send the shock troops in to put all anonymous remailers out of business? You don't think Anguilla is due for a Tomahawk sometime in the future?

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Re: so, what did Toto *do*,......
by Joseph 'Anonymous' Howe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Reeza! wrote: > > >all seen posted here. Personally, I found them a lot milder than Reeza!'s > >projection of his suicide fantasies, for instance. > > Huh? Well Goodness Fuck, Does this mean I am notorious as well? In a post primarily about your feelings about Klinton, you outlined a detailed suicide fantasy ("meet your maker") and suggested other people might like to eat a bullet too. That's closer to presidential assasination than Toto ever got.

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the ANON delivery
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

anon sent something via MeatSpace Mail a few months back. any relevence to current circumstances should be ignored, eh MongerMonger

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Re: AOL lameness
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now _this_ is illustrative... Husband: "Hi. I'm having a problem connecting to the Internet." Tech Support: "Ok sir, what operating system are you using?" Husband: "Oh...I'm really not sure...I'm not the computer expert. My wife is. She's sitting at the computer. I'm going to dictate this to her." (pause) "She says we use Windows 95." Tech Support: "Ok. What exactly is the problem?" Husband: "I can't connect." Wife: (in the background) "We can't even get on -- the software is buggy!" Tech Support: "Ok, what happens when you try to connect?" Husband: "Ok, the Connect To: screen pops up, and it asks for my password." Tech Support: "Did you put your password in?" Husband: "Yes, and it keeps asking for it afterwards." Tech Support: "Do you have your caps lock key on?" Husband: "Yes, but that shouldn't make any difference." Tech Support: "Uhm...go ahead and hit the caps lock key until the light goes away." Husband: "Are you sure? We've always got on with the caps lock key on." Tech Support: "Yes, I'm sure." Husband: "Oh, ok. It took my password." Wife: (in the background) "I told you!" (They start arguing. She takes the phone from him.) "HELLO?" Tech Support: "Yes, hello, you should be all set from here." Wife: "YES HI, I'VE BEEN USING YOUR DAMN SOFTWARE FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG, AND I STILL CAN'T GET EMAIL FROM MY SON IN THE NAVY!" Tech Support: "What program do you use for email, ma'am?" Wife: "I use Windows 95! We already told you that!" Husband: (in the background) "We already told her that, didn't we?" Tech Support: "No, what mail application...such as Eudora, Netscape, Internet Explorer..." Wife: "Microsoft Netscape." Tech Support: "Netscape?" Wife: "Yes, Microsoft Netscape." Tech Support: "Ok, open that up and go to Options, and then Mail and News Preferences--" Wife: "No, I want email! I don't want to surf the net!" Tech Support: "Netscape comes with an email program, and we're going to set it up now." Wife: "Ugh. Fine. Whatever. We'll do it YOUR way." Tech Support: "Ok." (explains how to set up popmail) Wife: "I'm not getting mail." Tech Support: "Do you have two phone lines?" Suddenly I hear the modem attempting to dial in. Tech Support: (over the roar of the modem) "MA'AM? YOU ONLY HAVE ONE PHONE LINE. DON'T TRY TO DIAL IN." (beep click click) Tech Support: "You can't dial up with this line. It's already in use." Wife: "I was always able to use it before YOU changed my settings!" Tech Support: "No, you will just have to disconn--" Wife: "You tech support people always mess up my settings, and then I have to bring my computer back to [retailer] to get it fixed! You know, you cost me so much money!" Tech Support: "Ma'am, I didn't change any of your Internet settings." Wife: "Yes you did, we just went through a NUMBER of things." Tech Support: "All we did was--" Wife: "I've had ENOUGH of your service. I'm going back to AOL." (click) >From <http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_calls.shtml>

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