December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: A personal response to your email to sixdegrees
by Jan Dobrucki 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well... so far this is the longest response from sixdegrees I've read on cypherpunks... those guys are such numbskulls... can't they just go to the cypherpunk homepage, at: ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/Home.html get the info to get themselves of the cypherpunk mailing list...? And about folks on the list... seems awfully quite... Ende Jan D. P.S. :I remember this from a comic film... robo something... "Information is Ammunition" Mark Salamon wrote: > > (I was not sure which email address to send this to, as the return > address was: nobody(a)replay.com. I also do not know who to address this > email to.) > > I am the WHOIS contact at sixdegrees you sent this email to, and since > this is a peronal reply to your email, it is certainly NOT spam and I > would appreciate it if you would take the time to read it and respond. > > I am very confused by your email. I understand that you do not wish to > receive emails from sixdegrees, but it is very easy to solve this > problem. If anyone ever sponsors you for sixdegrees, simply reply to > the email and put the word "remove" in the header. (This is pretty > standard stuff across the Internet, as I am sure you are aware.) If > that occurs, in the future we will not send emails to the email address > that received the original email from us. (remainder of the nonsense I don't care to read is cut)

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It's finally over (was Re: Explanation of Harald Fragner and cypherpunks)
by Bart Troyan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---Mark Salamon <mark(a)sixdegrees.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. I have now received about 10 such replies. We > will take them to heart, remove the cypherpunks and attempt to deal with > the mailing list issue in an intelligent way. > > And thanks, but we have enough magazine subscriptions already. :) > > Mark > > Bart Troyan wrote: > > > > OK, here's what happened. Someone signed up for sixdegrees using one or > > more of the cypherpunks addresses as their address, either deliberately in > > order to cause problems like this, or accidentally, not realizing what > > would happen. > > > > The real-world analogy would be for me and all my friends to get a bunch of > > magazines, rip out all those postage-paid subscription flaps, and fill out > > your name and address on each of them, then you'd have unwanted trial > > subscriptions to lots and lots of magazines. > > > > hmmmm... > > MacroView > > 90 William Street, Suite 301 > > New York, NY 10038 > > > > Wouldn't that suck? Can you imagine if 1000 people did that to you all the > > same day? (this is *not* a threat, just an example). You'd have bags and > > bags of zines and bills coming in daily... > > > > As I am sure you are aware, the net makes it REALLY EASY to screw someone > > over like that, by signing them up for all sorts of things with little > > effort. Even if you remove all the cypherpunks addresses, someone can come > > along and do it again. There must be a permanent solution...how about > > hardcoding a block on signing up with an address containing the string > > "cypherpunks" in your email software? Why should thousands of us on > > cypherpunks all have to do our own filtering to delete everything from > > @sixdegrees.com and still have to waste all that bandwidth when one site is > > the source of all of it, and it could be eradicated with a simple > > programming change? > > > > I assure you this is not the last time you'll see this problem occur--there > > are thousands of mailing lists out there, and lots of vindictive former > > subscribers for each one that would love to annoy everyone on the list for > > a while... and signing a list up for sixdegrees does the trick quite > > efficiently. > > > > -Bart > > > > Mark Salamon wrote: > > > What is confusing to me is that the email you received from sixdegrees > > > (with the subject: Harald Fragner) is one that would be sent ONLY to a > > > CONFIRMED sixdegrees user. That means that once upon a time, whether > > > you remember or not, you joined sixdegrees (as have over 1,000,000 > > > people to date). It also appears that you listed Harald Fragner as a >

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128 bit or 40 bit?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Being outside North America, I have an "export" version of Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator. These offer 40 bit encryption. (40 bit RC4, I understand). My financial institution has a 128 bit Verisign certificate. To my surprise, they claim this offers 128 bit encryption to /me/. [in transactions to https://secure.mybank.com.xx] I thought my 40 bit client limited the security to 40 bits. Who is right? Please explain. TIA

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Re: Clinton still doesnt get it
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Frondeur writes: > Why do you believe the perjury case has `reasonable doubt' problems? Watch TV and learn the answer. It's only perjury if it's material, and the judge said it wasn't material. > And the abuse of power case seems thin even to a non-lawyer. But > where does the `executive privilege stuff' come in? I don't see > that Starr listed that among his possible grounds for impeachment. Among the grounds Starr listed was Clinton's attempt to delay the investigation by raising many legal objections. He claimed privilege, for example, with respect to Secret Service testimony. Most of his efforts were ultimately overruled.

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17 Dec '03

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Encrypting files.
by Lars Weitze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone now a program for WindozeNT to store encrypted data on harddisk. At the moment i use ZIP-Files with a Password on them (I now it is not very secure). I am living outside USA and do not want any software with backdoors ,"masterkeys" or stuff like that. Thanks ChromeDemon -- "One dead is a tragedy, thousand deads are a statistic." Karl Marx e-mail: chromedemon(a)netcologne.de http://chromedemon.home.pages.de http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-weitzela2

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RE: Democracy...
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone wrote: >Religion has nothing to do with 'faith' or 'Churches' What definition of "religion" are you using. I am very hard pressed to find single definition that does not involve *faith*, although I have yet to find a good etymological dictionary on the Internet (anyone know of one?). You are correct that religion need not have anything to do with church. >A man may be an atheist and be religious. Greek: a- (without) + [theos (god) + ismos (practice or doctrine)] Unless you can show me a religion that does not involve a god or gods, and although etymologically unjustified I would claim one that does not involve *faith*, then I would say you could NOT be both an atheist and religious. Agnostic perhaps, but not an atheist. You can be contradictory and hypocritical and claim you are many things, but we are talking about a coherent philosophy. You can be both spiritual and an atheist. Spirituality does not require faith in any external mystical element or being. Jaeger wrote: > notice the wording in the first amendment...it only restricts gov't > restrictions on religion. What part of "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" didn't you understand? As with most the constitution, however, this is theory, not practice. In practice there are many laws and case precedence establishing and preferring certain religious practices, particularly the institution of marriage. Jim wrote: > The 1st prevents the government from regulating religion, even to the > point of having the authority to define what a religion is. I agree, but clearly they have. Particularly all the IRS code involving certain exemptions for religious organizations and individuals. Like I said above, theory versus practice, we are essentially no longer living under the constitution. Matt

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sixdegreees spam
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has any cypherpunk not noticed that all sixdegrees participants have twodegreees (TM) of separation via the sixdegrees site????

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Re: 128 bit or 40 bit?
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <67ee9e3cc8499f9d72a11a2df56c48fe@anonymous> you wrote: : Being outside North America, I have an "export" version of : Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator. These offer 40 bit : encryption. (40 bit RC4, I understand). : My financial institution has a 128 bit Verisign certificate. : To my surprise, they claim this offers 128 bit encryption to /me/. : [in transactions to https://secure.mybank.com.xx] : I thought my 40 bit client limited the security to 40 bits. : Who is right? Please explain. All browsers have the 128 bits encryption inthem, but in the non-US version it can only enabled by a 'special cert'. Banks are the only institutions that are currently allowed to recieve such an cert. This is also why fortify.net works as it does, anyways, we also offer 128 bit versions of the popular browsers *g* -- Alex de Joode | International CryptoRunners | http://www.replay.com 'A little paranoia can longer your life'

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