December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: 128 bit or 40 bit?
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <67ee9e3cc8499f9d72a11a2df56c48fe@anonymous> you wrote: : Being outside North America, I have an "export" version of : Internet Explorer/Netscape Navigator. These offer 40 bit : encryption. (40 bit RC4, I understand). : My financial institution has a 128 bit Verisign certificate. : To my surprise, they claim this offers 128 bit encryption to /me/. : [in transactions to https://secure.mybank.com.xx] : I thought my 40 bit client limited the security to 40 bits. : Who is right? Please explain. All browsers have the 128 bits encryption inthem, but in the non-US version it can only enabled by a 'special cert'. Banks are the only institutions that are currently allowed to recieve such an cert. This is also why fortify.net works as it does, anyways, we also offer 128 bit versions of the popular browsers *g* -- Alex de Joode | International CryptoRunners | http://www.replay.com 'A little paranoia can longer your life'

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RE: Democracy... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Matthew James Gering <mgering(a)ecosystems.net> > Subject: RE: Democracy... > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:00:09 -0700 > Unless you can show me a religion that does not involve a god or gods, > and although etymologically unjustified I would claim one that does not > involve *faith*, then I would say you could NOT be both an atheist and > religious. Agnostic perhaps, but not an atheist. You can be > contradictory and hypocritical and claim you are many things, but we are > talking about a coherent philosophy. Try pantheism. If one fundamentaly believes that god does not exist, which clearly involves faith, then yes it is a religion. A religion is a belief system that provides a relationship between the individual and the totality of all else (the cosmos if you'll allow me). By your view an agnostic can't be religion since it is the recognition of a *lack* of faith, clearly something you require to be religous. An atheist says that god could exist but doesn't - clearly an act of faith. There are fundamentaly two types of religions, those that recognize some for of transcendance and those that don't. Quibbling over what is the 'correct' form of transcendence is as irrelevant as arguing over the 'correct' religion. In either case the same failure to understand human psychology is committed. In short it is the axiomatic assumption that there *is* a single anything that will satisfy everyone. > You can be both spiritual and an atheist. Spirituality does not require > faith in any external mystical element or being. What do you mean by 'spiritual'? Are you refering to a ghost-in-the-machine either at the individual or cosmological level? Whether one believes that mystical element is external (which if you understood God would clearly be seen to be a non sequitar with the rest of your argument) or internal is irrelevant. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: the people
by bmccaffrey＠executive.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monday, September 14, 1998 - 23:20:36 Question: How is it, that the FBI has so much power? Answer: Because 'the people' didn't do swat to stop them[the FBI]. Question: How do 'the people' change the situation? Answer: 'The people' get out their banners and megaphones and march on the Congress. Question: What do 'the people' do then they[Congress] don't hear 'the people'? Answer: 'The people' go on strike. Question: What do 'the people' do when Congress doesn't care about their strikes? Answer: 'The people' fire their M16'eens at Congress which they brought with them. Question: So where are 'the people'? Answer: At home watching the coverage of these exciting events on TV.

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Re: Democracy... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:02:22 -0700 > From: Michael Motyka <mmotyka(a)lsil.com> > Subject: Re: Democracy... > All right Mr. Logic, you're so sharp, give me ONE example of a *moral* > absolute. Morality and the distinctions that can be drawn from it are a consequence of the individual and the characteristics of their milieu and their species. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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JDesignerPro 3.0 Enterprise Edition
by BulletProof Customer Support 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: It's finally over (was Re: Explanation of Harald Fragner and cypherpunks)
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ---Mark Salamon <mark(a)sixdegrees.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the reply. I have now received about 10 such > > replies. We will take them to heart, remove the cypherpunks > > and attempt to deal with the mailing list issue in an > > intelligent way. Most lists and services have dealt with the problem of someone accidentally subscribing or maliciously subscribing someone else in one of two ways: A) send and acknowledgement message with a randomly generated authorization code that requires the user to respond. B) send out a password and require the user to login before account is activated. This works only if you assume the malicious individual will not receive mail sent to that address. This therefore falls down when the address is a mailing list or other distribution point that the malicious individual has access to directly or via archives. What we really need is an automated system that could authorize/deny an address prior to the code/password being sent that would keep track of distribution list addresses and such. Perhaps I'll create one myself soon. Matt

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Your new password
by sixdegrees 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Announcement: Mac-Crypto Conference Oct 6-9, 1998
by vinnie＠vmeng.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Membership of the Mac-Crypto List invites you to The Third Annual Macintosh Cryptography and Internet Commerce Software Development Workshop October 6 - 9th, 1998 Town Hall Auditorium Apple R&D Campus 4 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA, USA Keeping with tradition, this is still free workshop, but we'd *really* like it if you register (see below). We are once again hosting our annual workshop, where you are sure to find the latest and greatest information about whats going on in the Macintosh cryptography world. A lot has happened in the past year in the world of the Internet and Cryptography, so this year, thanks to popular demand we have allocated more time and a larger hall for developers to talk about what they are working on. PRELIMINARY WORKSHOP TOPICS: (more to come) Introductions and Overviews: Intro to Crypto Systems Export Controls & Crypto software Crypto Opportunities for the Mac Tech Stuff: AppleShare Authentication Architecture PGPticket - A Secure Authorization Protocol The AltaVec PowerPC Architecture Apple Security Architecture Overview. Apple Keychain / Subwoofer update OpenPGP & the IETF standards process Overview of Crypto API's and Toolkits Applications of Cryptography RC5 cracking effort & the Mac PGPUAM - Appleshare Public Key Authentication Graphically displaying the Web of Trust Anonymous Communications and the Macintosh Open Sessions: As requested we scheduled lots of time for developer demos and open discussions plus the much asked for and a PGP Keysigning party ... and plenty of time for developers to network with each other and Apple. We have also left time open for a few last-minute speakers. If you would like to present a paper or give a talk, please contact Vinnie Moscaritolo at vinnie(a)apple.com To find out more about previous Mac-Crypto workshops check out our webpage at http://www.vmeng.com/mc/ REGISTRATION: To register, complete the following form, and email it to mac-crypto-conference(a)vmeng.com with the subject line REGISTRATION Registration is limited to 300 attendees, so be sure to register early. _______________________________________________________________________ * Name: * Email Address: Title: Affliation: Address: Telephone: Comments: _______________________________________________________________________ Local Hotels: Cupertino Inn, 800-222-4828 Pretty much Across the Street. Cupertino Courtyard by Marriot, 800-321-2211 5 Minute Drive Inn at Saratoga 408-867-5020 About 3 Miles See you in Cupertino on October 6 - 9th! Vinnie Moscaritolo Apple World Wide Developer Support DSS/DH: 3F903472C3AF622D5D918D9BD8B100090B3EF042 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0 iQA/AwUBNgA9BR16LYZvFyoKEQKYAACfXK7uA40tX1DRy44zTaqkesDs5TkAoKS3 Fx/5lcgO9b6Wqfsibdpc1MRz =c+ZP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Clinton still doesnt get it
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous writes: > > Frondeur writes: > > > Why do you believe the perjury case has `reasonable doubt' problems? > > Watch TV and learn the answer. It's only perjury if it's material, > and the judge said it wasn't material. This doesn't speak to `reasonable doubt' which was the subject under discussion. Or are you arguing that a defense to perjury is that there is reasonable doubt that a question was material? Go watch TV and report back with the answer. > > And the abuse of power case seems thin even to a non-lawyer. But > > where does the `executive privilege stuff' come in? I don't see > > that Starr listed that among his possible grounds for impeachment. > > Among the grounds Starr listed was Clinton's attempt to delay the > investigation by raising many legal objections. He claimed privilege, > for example, with respect to Secret Service testimony. Most of his > efforts were ultimately overruled. Yes, but I assumed Mac had included this under the `abuse of power' heading since he explicitly cited that topic in his message to which I was responding, and since that appeared to match one of the broad headings under which Starr classifies his possible `grounds for impeachment': "...that President Clinton's actions ... have been inconsistent with the President's constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws. " I see nowhere that Starr claims that it was illegal/impeachable for Clinton to have claimed executive privilege. He merely notes that Clinton used it (extensively) along with a bunch of other tactics to delay and impede the investigation. - Frondeur

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RE: Encrypting files.
by Matthew James Gering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PGP International for file encryption, NTSentry or BestCrypt for virtual-disk encryption. PGP International STFM BestCrypt http://www.jetico.sci.fi/bcnt.htm NTSentry http://www.softwinter.com/sentry.html All are outside the US. If anyone has other good recommendations, please add them. Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars Weitze [mailto:chromedemon@netcologne.de] > Does anyone now a program for WindozeNT to store encrypted > data on harddisk.

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