December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 9/19/98 11:24 PM, Anonymous (nobody(a)remailer.ch) passed this wisdom: > >In reply to my suggestion that lieing under oath isn't >a very good reason for impeachment, > >Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> wrote: >> Of course it's different if you preface your lie with "I swear to tell the >> truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". >> >> The oath is voluntary and therefore if broken no claim for duress, only >> intentional misdirection, can explain such actions. > >echoed by nobody(a)remailer.ch who wrote: >> ...If some public figure ... goes under oath and then lies, ... >> he's trying to throw a wrench in the >> justice system. It wouldn't be as bad if somebody like Jim or I lied under >> oath, but this guy is the chief executive of the United States. He's >> basically Top Cop, and his administration doesn't hesitate to press >> charges against people who commit all sorts of victimless crimes. >> > >I agree it's bad. I agree it undermines the justice system a little bit. >But, ... impeachment? > >You're not charging him with murder (eg WACO), attacking the 1st >ammendment (CDA), >the 4th (SSN on driver's licences), the 5th (GAK). You're going after Al >Capone >for tax evasion. You want to get him because he's a Bad Person not because of >the particular crime. This is ironic, because his crimes against our basic >rights were committed while pursuing Bad People, but it is also hypocritical. > They couldn't get Capone any other way but on Income Tax Evasion ... we all know how much more guilty of how many more heinous crimes he was ... but we took him the only way we could ... Clinton is no different ... it would be grand and so fitting if we could impeach himt for having committed aggravated assault upon the Bill of Rights, but if we have to get him because he can't keep his pecker zipped up then so be it ... as with case of Al Capone, this country will also be richer without William Jefferson (Thomas must be rolling in his grave!) Klinton! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "When hell freezes over, grab your ice skates." -- Mark Johnson

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TAKE THE PRESIDENTIAL SEX TOUR/WOMAN WHO TURNED MONICA GREEN
by STUFFED NEWS DAILY 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: CHALLENGE? Toto/signature attack w. unpublished public key
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > In addition it has to be that n is the right length based on the "s" > > padding. This limits it to an 8 bit range, in this case 1024-1031 > > bits. > > The constraint I gave was that log(n) = 1024. Bear in mind that the > msbyte of s = 0x08, so we know that n > s, and I think we know that n > < 2^1024 also based on the s padding from the signature. So based on > this n would be in the range 1020 - 1024 bits, right? Actually there is somewhat more flexibility than this. You made up the padding, it didn't come from the file, did it? You could add perhaps 1 more byte of FF without stretching credibility too extremely. Then n could be 1020 - 1032 bits. It's too bad that s started out so small (assuming the "true" n was 1024 bits). > > If you make n be a product of a bunch of small primes, so that you > > can make signatures with it, then a third party can detect this and > > know it is bogus. > > He has to factor your n to determine that it is bogus though? This > would imply that he had more compute than you do. (Not unreasonable > threat model mind). But didn't YOU have to factor n also? That's what you showed, originally, a large s^e which you factored down to get some small factors and a big one. If you manage to get a prime factorization you can combine factors to get your n. But it won't be any harder for him to factor than it was for you. > Resources available: one low end pentium based linux PC? :-) Just that > the attack is clearly feasible is interesting though a demonstration > would be perhaps more convincing to less technically aware IRS people. > The biggest resource overhead is implementing that lot though, unless > there exist packages or libraries which already do most of it for you. The discrete log algorithm is similar to quadratic sieve and other modern factoring algorithms. You do multiple factorizations of other numbers and combine them to generate the desired relationships. The difference is that the factor base is not just the primes, it uses special numbers. There was a break a few years ago of the discrete log modulus being used by Sun's RPC. This was something like 200-300 bits. Maybe that discrete log code could be obtained from the authors.

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by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Clinton's fake apologies (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 20 Sep 1998, Anonymous wrote: > > In reply to my suggestion that lieing under oath isn't > a very good reason for impeachment, > > Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> wrote: > > Of course it's different if you preface your lie with "I swear to tell the > > truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". > > > > The oath is voluntary and therefore if broken no claim for duress, only > > intentional misdirection, can explain such actions. > > echoed by nobody(a)remailer.ch who wrote: > > ...If some public figure ... goes under oath and then lies, ... > > he's trying to throw a wrench in the > > justice system. It wouldn't be as bad if somebody like Jim or I lied under > > oath, but this guy is the chief executive of the United States. He's > > basically Top Cop, and his administration doesn't hesitate to press > > charges against people who commit all sorts of victimless crimes. > > > > I agree it's bad. I agree it undermines the justice system a little bit. > But, ... impeachment? Yes. We have some jokester sitting in Washington with full authority over our military forces. The people can't believe a word he says. Congress can't believe a word he says. He rules by executive order. He ignores the Constitution. There is argument over whether he ordered military strikes to divert attention from his scandal and whether he sold the country out to the Red Chinese. Now people like myself are thinking - totally justified - that this guy will do absolutely anything to hold on to his presidency. I don't feel particularly secure with some guy who I can't trust running the military and with his finger on the nuclear button. That itself is a violation of national security.

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To my understanding pleading the 5th in response to a court order for your passphrase would work, correct? Or would you be liable under contempt of court?

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Alone (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Bob, Sorry, nothing personal but with an opening like that I couldn't help myself. Please forgive me. Forwarded message: > From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com> > Subject: Alone (fwd) > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:25:01 -0500 (CDT) > Forwarded message: > > > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:38:16 -0400 > > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > > Subject: Alone > > > > > "...it depends on how you define 'alone'.". > > > > Alone enough to get a blowjob? > > > > That depends Bob, can you bend over that far? > ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Questions for Magaziner? // taxing crypto
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:04 PM -0400 on 9/19/98, Ron Rivest wrote: > I feel mis-quoted and/or mis-represented in your note (below) > stating that "Magaziner mirrored Rivest's offer to tax encryption > products to pay for increased law enforcement technology support". Okay. Cool. Sorry if I mischaracterized it somehow, I wasn't trying to. Or was it Diffie who said something like that? By the way, someone told me that the Crypto "Authors@MIT" talk with you and Diffie, etc., was on CSPAN recently, so if someone *really* wanted to, they could go back, see *exactly* what was said, and say here what the idea was, (and who to attribute it to, of course), that prompted me to make the, um, offending, comment, they could do so. Frankly, I was too hyped from telling the FBI guy he didn't matter anymore, not to mention his dirty look that followed :-), to remember it accurately enough for scientific attribution. "The cost of error on a network full of scientists is bandwidth." -- Hettinga's Law of Network Noise Sorry if I mischaracterized what was surely the right thing to say at the time... :-). Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)philodox.com> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Forwarded mail...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:35:33 +0200 > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > > To my understanding pleading the 5th in response to a court order for your > passphrase would work, correct? Or would you be liable under contempt of > court? > It should work, though I don't believe it's ever been tested in court. I've been looking at the court forcing one to take immunity and can't find anything that would support such actions. So if you haven't told the court you will cooperate *and* you say nothing more than that you're taking the 5th there shouldn't be much they can do except charge you as an accomplice and hope for a conviction on other material. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Important: RealPlayer G2 Beta Expiration
by RealNetworks News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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