December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Government vs. Steve Jackson (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Shane_Nifong(a)s2systems.com > Subject: Government vs. Steve Jackson > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:28:55 -0500 > Would someone summarize this case for me? Someone told me that the > government could seize your computer without a warrant or anything. > They said that it (computer) was not covered under the privacy act. > True? There was an employee of SJG, Lloyd Blankenship (aka The Mentor), who wrote material for SJG and helped manage the Illuminati BBS for SJG. Lloyd was also one of the lead members of a group called Legion of Doom (LoD) and ran an underground BBS called Phoenix Project. Members of LoD hacked many systems and were well known by many in various agencies and was in the middle of a 'turf' war with Masters of Destruction (MoD) based in Georgia. Also a member of LoD was Erik Bloodaxe who also lived here in Austin. Because of various shennanigans various law enforcement agencies, initialy tripped off by Operation Sun Devil (not related directly to the SJG bust), were interestedin Lloyd & Erik's activities and particularly interested in the GURPS Cyberpunk module that Lloyd was writing. In an attempt to shut down the Phoenix Project and put a hush on the GURPS module, which they claimed was a 'handbook to hack', they obtained a sealed warrant for Lloyd, Erik, and about a dozen other members around the country as well as material at SJG. One Sunday morning in 1990 they arrested Lloyd and several others as well as went to SJG and attempted to enter. Nobody could be found on a Sunday morning with a key so they kicked the door down. In the process of confiscating the GURPS material they also took the Illuminati BBS (run on an old Apple II) as well as answering machines, dictation tapes, etc. After several years of legal hassle Lloyd, Erik, & SJG were cleared and *most* of their property was returned. One of the charges against Erik at least for a short time was 'theft of a video game'. Seems he and I had bought various stand-up arcade video games (he had PacMan I believe and I Stargate) from a 3rd party here in Austin (Rick Wallingford of Wallingford Electronics) and because there was no receipt and Rick wouldn't produce one they thougth it might be stolen. Both Erik and Lloyd knew they were under observation (along with many others in LoD and simple bystanders) because of a bar-b-q at Rick's about a month before the bust. A couple of undercover cops were noted watching the bar-b-q because they would get out of their car down the street and walk around with their jackets off - hence displaying their guns. Lloyd also found out about phone taps because the weekend before he was busted he and I were talking on the phone and he made a comment about burning approx. 50 lbs. of printouts. When he was busted the SS dilligently took all the ashes in his fireplace. When Erik was busted the only computer equipment in his apartment was a dumb terminal and a 2400 baud modem. Even though I was a user of Phoenix Project and helped work out several hardware problems in electronics I was never directly involved with LoD nor was I ever contacted by the SS. I never inquired into whether my phone was tapped because of Lloyd's paper incident or if it was just his phone. Last time I talked to Lloyd a couple of years ago he still hadn't received all his computers and disks back. Erik did two HohoCon's here in Austin but because of various shennanigans (like cracking the Hotel 8 computer at Highland Mall) the show is pretty much verboten here in Austin. Lloyd went back to school in San Marcos and was working on a comp sci degree. I haven't talked to either Erik or Lloyd in over two years so I don't know what they are up to now. The police can't Constitutionaly seize anything without a warrant, unfortunately the courts don't see it that way all the time. Technicaly if anyone but you also uses your computer and the police wish to seize it they must produce search warrants for the other 3rd party work, considerd a 'work in progress', on that computer. If they don't and they do deny the 3rd party access to that material in the process of their case then the 3rd party has the right to sue for damages at something like $1k/day. It's one of the reasons that I have multiple users on SSZ and support several mailing lists like this one. That's what I know about it. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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IRC Internet chat with Electronic Frontiers
by Robert A. Costner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I sent this message to the cypherpunks list (cyberpass) about 12 hours ago, but have not seen it come up, so I'm sending it again. My apologies if you get two copies. (this copy does have more listed at the bottom in the schedule.) There will be a series of IRC internet chats with Electronic Frontiers. We wish to address two main problems. The Electronic Frontiers movement is misunderstood by a lot of people, and there is not enough communication between the independent EF organizations. The idea was sparked by the recent Cypherpunks Christmas Eve chat. Thanks for the idea. The members of the cypherpunks mail list are invited to our upcoming internet chats. Dates and info are below. The Electronic Frontiers movement is several independent organizations that share a common thread to their name. Each group speaks for themselves and are not associated with each other. The various EF organizations have no association with the group called EFF. We are grassroots organizations of concerned citizens of our geographic areas, volunteering our time and energy. EF organizations exist in several US states and in different countries around the world. EF organizations have been responsible for activities such as winning court cases like the Georgia Internet Anonymity and web linking lawsuit, and the anti-spoofing spam lawsuit in Texas (flowers.com) Of particular interest to Cypherpunks is the fact that EFGA hosts a variety of cypherpunk technologies, including a Cypherpunk Type-1 remailer, nymserver, and mixmaster remailer. We also have a PGP keyserver. Recently we created an FTP archive of privacy software. So far this has been front ends for remailers and PGP software that various software authors have sent us to host. All you need is an IRC client, and to log onto EFnet. If you have questions on how to do this, ask the list. I'm a newbie with IRC and can't help that much. The first chat is Thursday, tomorrow, New Years day at 7:00 pm New York time. ------------- There will be an IRC internet chat session for Electronic Frontiers. More info can be found at http://www.efga.org/about/meeting.html Get out your IRC client and visit us on EFnet IRC in the #ElectronicFrontiers channel. There will be a chat session on * Thursday, January 1, 1998 at 7:00pm EST hosted by Robert Costner of Electronic Frontiers Georgia. * Saturday, January 3, 1998 at 3:00pm EST hosted by Scott Brower of Electronic Frontiers Florida. * Wednesday, January 7, 1998 at 5:00 EST (2:00pm Pacific) hosted by Jon Lebkowsky of EF-Texas * To be announced hosted by Electronic Frontiers Australia (EFA) These will be our first chat sessions. After we see how this goes, we will try to setup something on a regular basis. -- Robert Costner Phone: (770) 512-8746 Electronic Frontiers Georgia mailto:pooh@efga.org http://www.efga.org/ run PGP 5.0 for my public key

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I tried sending an anonymous test article to comp.org.cauce via the CRACKER remailer. Sure enough, the Gypsie Jew Zorch forged a cancel for my article: >From: scott(a)zorch.sf-bay.org (Scott Hazen Mueller) >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce >Subject: cancelled posting >Date: 30 Dec 1997 13:25:04 -0500 >Organization: At Home; Salida, CA >Lines: 26 >Sender: johnl(a)iecc.com >Approved: comp.org.cauce(a)abuse.net >Message-ID: <EM0LFH.Bn3(a)zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> >Reply-To: scott(a)zorch.sf-bay.org >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce(a)abuse.net >X-Authentication-Warning: orbit.hooked.net: Uzorch set sender to news(a)zorch.sf-bay.org using -f >X-Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost.sf-bay.org >Path: ...!iecc.com!iecc.com!not-for-mail > >I have issued a cancel for the following posting to comp.org.cauce. Death >threats are serious business. > >Xref: zorch comp.org.cauce:378 >Path: zorch!news.well.com!noos.hooked.net!204.156.128.20.MISMATCH!news1.best.com >!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-i >n-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.238.207.65!iecc.com!iecc.co >m!not-for-mail >From: Anonymous <anon(a)anon.efga.org> >Newsgroups: comp.org.cauce >Subject: CAUCE offers a $50,000 (canadian) reward for killing Chris Lewis, his w >ife, and the kid >Date: 30 Dec 1997 10:58:17 -0500 >Organization: I.E.C.C., Trumansburg NY >Lines: 14 >Sender: johnl(a)iecc.com >Approved: comp.org.cauce(a)abuse.net >Message-ID: <b8d6450efb8581fa6190e92216c92e16(a)anon.efga.org> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ivan.iecc.com >X-submission-address: comp-org-cauce(a)abuse.net >Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. > It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. > Please report problems or inappropriate use to the > remailer administrator at <admin(a)anon.efga.org>. My cancelled Usenet article offered a reward for killing the spammer: >CAUCE, the enforcement branch of the Internet administration, is dedicated to >exterminating all SPAMMERS by any means necessary. CAUCE wants Chris Lewis and >all other SPAMMERS dead, and will gladly pay the $50,000 (canadian) reward to >whomever KILLS Chris Lewis and his family, who reside in a suburb of Ottawa: > >483 Vances Side Road >Dunrobin, Ontario K0A 1T0 >CANADA >Home telephone: (613) 832-0541, >Office telephone: (613) 763-2935 > >After you kill Chris Lewis and his family, please see http://www.cauce.org >for information on how to collect your CAUCE reward. This is fucking censorship! I'm putting the notice of the CAUCE reward on my web home page at http://www.panix.com/~guy, right next to the pictures of the pre-teen kids screwing. Fuck you, Zorch, you're next after C, P, and G Lewis. ---guy

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17 Dec '03

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AOL spam showdown brewing... [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > AOL SPAM DISPUTE ESCALATES > > Business group threatens to release millions of e-mail addresses > > * Group says AOL is anti-small business > * AOL calls plan 'cyber-terrorism' > * Spam spat > * Related stories and sites > > December 31, 1997 > Web posted at: 3:15 p.m. EST (2015 GMT) > > CHINO, California (CNN) -- An Internet business group and the > world's biggest Internet service provider, America Online, were > poised Wednesday for a legal showdown in a dispute over pitching > products and services to AOL users via e-mail. > > If AOL doesn't back down from its opposition to the National > Organization of Internet Commerce (NOIC), the California-based group > threatens to put the e-mail addresses of millions of AOL users on > its Web site, making them available for downloading by any business, > group or individual seeking to make mass electronic mailing > > NOIC, a non-profit trade organization representing small businesses > and bulk-mailers, originally set Thursday as the day it would reveal > the e-mail addresses of 1 million of AOL's 10 million customers. > > On Wednesday, however, NOIC escalated the threat, announcing it > would release 5 million AOL e-mail addresses on January 8. > > AOL vowed to fight NOIC in court, if necessary, and said it hoped > the group would reconsider. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Location Escrow anyone ?
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This off another list ... More than fair use perhaps, but significant. -------------------------------------------------------- Tracking of Swiss mobile phone users starts row Copyright © 1997 Reuters ZURICH (December 28, 1997 4:12 p.m. EST http://www.nando.net) - Swiss police have secretly tracked the whereabouts of mobile phone users via a telephone company computer that records billions of movements going back more than half a year, a Sunday newspaper reported. The revelation in the SonntagsZeitung newspaper triggered objections from politicians and the country's privacy ombudsman about high-tech snooping on citizens who like the convenience of a mobile phone. Officials from state telephone company Swisscom confirmed the practice, but insisted information about mobile customers was only handed out on court orders. "Swisscom has stored data on the movements of more than a million mobile phone users. It can call up the location of all its mobile subscribers down to a few hundred meters and going back at least half a year," the paper reported. "When it has to, it can exactly reconstruct down to the minute who met whom, where and for how long for a confidential tete-a-tete," it said. Some 3,000 base stations across the country track the location of mobile phones as soon as they are switched on, not just when customers are having conversations, it said. Prosecutors called the records a wealth of information that helped track criminals' movements. "This is a very efficient investigation tool," Renato Walti, an investigating magistrate in Zurich who specialises in organised crime, was quoted as telling the paper. The paper said Swisscom and law-enforcement officials were reluctant to discuss the records, which were supposed to be secret. But it quoted Toni Stadelmann, head of Swisscom's mobile phone division, as saying: "We release the movement profile of mobile telephone customers on a judge's order." SonntagsZeitung said there was no legal basis for storing such information. "I am unaware of any law that would allow the preventative collection of data for investigative purposes," it quoted Odilo Guntern, the federal ombudsman for protecting individuals' privacy, as saying. "Secretly collecting data is highly problematic," added Alexander Tschaeppat, a judge and member of the lower house of parliament. Copyright © 1997 Nando.net -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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HIP97 photos & hate speech in list opinions
by Antonomasia 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cpunks (and Bcc list), I've had a kind offer from Judith to scan my HIP photos and display them on the web (www.sabotage.org) This should happen in a few days. The photos include Alex, Judith, DDT, Ulf, Ian Grigg, Lucky, Sameer, Joichi and others. Re: Hate speech and censorship, 22 Dec, Anonymous > On behalf of the non-racist cypherpunks, please accept an apology for > Paul Bradley's racist message: > > uneducated and foolish arabs such as Parekh should stick > > to what they do best: running kebab shops and/or selling cheap fake rolex > > watches to tourists. > This does not reflect the mainstream view on the list. .... I found Sameer perfectly pleasant. IMO the best view to take on mainstream views is that you can't usually tell. Silence could indicate killfiles rather than assent. -- ############################################################## # Antonomasia ant(a)notatla.demon.co.uk # # See http://www.notatla.demon.co.uk/ # ##############################################################

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17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Long-distance limits on Bells unconstitutional [CNN]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Federal judge says long-distance > restrictions on Bells unconstitutional > > December 31, 1997: 7:02 p.m. ET > > SBC Communications > More related sites... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A federal judge Wednesday > threw out as unconstitutional provisions of a landmark federal law > that restrict the regional Baby Bells from entering the $80 billion > long-distance telephone market, SBC Communications Inc. said. > [INLINE] San Antonio-based SBC said U.S. District Judge Joe Kendall > sided with the carrier, which had charged that the Telecommunications > Act of 1996 was unconstitutional because it discriminated against SBC > and the other four Baby Bells. > [INLINE] The New Year's Eve ruling is expected to send shock waves > through the telecom industry and throw into further disarray the > Federal Communications Commission's efforts to break open the $100 > billion local phone market controlled by the Bells. [text deleted] ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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