December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR Operators & interaction...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I have received a couple of pieces of mail that concern me. The content seems to indicate that people have one or both of two basic misconceptions about the CDR: - The operators do not communicate between ourselves unless one of us begins to recieve duplicates or other indications of problems at another site. Outside of that we simply don't communicate. - I am NOT in any way the moderator, central clearing house, or in any other manner concerned with the operation of the 'network' of remailers. I operarate SSZ as a home-based business and the CDR is motivated by my personal interest in the various issues as well as the fact that it costs nothing extra for me to carry. The remailer network was initialy instituted by Igor and myself in order to keep the Cypherpunks mailing list alive after the toad.com announcement that the mailing list was going away due to the various issue related to the moderation experiment. The entire point was to create a system such that it was simple and could not be compromised by any single operator. Furthermore, if you or anyone you know is interested in joining the CDR as a remailer node, archive site, mail-news gateway, etc. then send a message to the list requesting the various operators for feeds. SSZ has a standing invitation to anyone who desires to have a full-time participant. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Did you taken part in a key crack?
by Trei Family 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm giving a presentation at the RSA Data Security Conference in January, 1998. The title is "Key Cracking for fun and Profit: The Year in Review". The main topic will be the activity spawned by the RSA Secret Key Challenges, though I'll include other brute-force and factoring efforts, in 1997 or before. If you have taken part in a key search, and/or have any thoughts on the topic you'd like to share, I hope you'll send them to me at trei(a)ziplink.net. I'm particularly interested in finding out about some of the less-known efforts - for example, the DES effort rumored to have taken place at SGI, and the early, abortive RC5/56 effort at a New York site. Stories, anecdotes, and issues raised by the efforts are all welcomed. Responses will be kept confidential if desired. Thanks, Peter Trei trei(a)ziplink.net DISCLAIMER: The above are my own views, should not be misconstrued to represent those of my employer.

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17 Dec '03

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NSA Job Offer
by William J. Clinton 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear Randall I saw your post on the cypherpunks list debunking the forgery of my good friend Phill Zimmerman. As you are no doubt aware my Deputy Director of the NSA retired recently and I've decided that Barbie is no longer suitable following certain uncomplimentary remarks she made after a fireside shagging^H^H^H^Hchat we had last night. I am therefore looking for a supersluth to fill this challenging position. If you would be interested in taking the bit between your teeth, so to speak, please email me and we'll do lunch. -- Bill C. "The next person who mentions my penis gets an ICBM up their ass"

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Spoofing
by semprini＠theschool.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't think I'm out of line here in saying that all this spoofing of other users is a bit childish. I'm sure there are better things one could find to do with one's time. (Possibly work on cracking RSA's 128- bit key?) --Dylan

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Request for expert opinion and Feedback
by Joubin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello all, I am involved in a project which aims at the creation of a free and portable Java(tm) based object operating system. A basic functional requirement for this new OS is to provide /fast and effective/ strong cryptographic support at the OS level. The basic structure of the system is a layered architecture, with the lowest layer consisting of a platform specific (non-portable) kernel supporting an embedded JVM (again in C/ASM) and a set of Java(tm) interfaces to this 'virtual platform'. The OS proper will sit on top of this and will be 100% Java (tm). The issue: As you may know, SMI has and will deliver a set of 'security' packages as a standard component of JDK. This uses RSA technology. Basic and general 'interfaces' to encapsulate constructs such as Key, Provider, Cypher, etc. are also defined. A few people in the project group feel that many different groups and entities out there will provide (portable) Public Key encryption packages (implemented in Java(tm)) that can be used by the users of the OS. They argue against embedding computational support at the Kernel (non-portable) layer as wasted effort. Others (& myself included) feel that 'effective' also means efficiency of execution. Specially so if such functionality is to be used to encypher 'streams' and such (if that is possible). Your expert advice: a) How do you feel about 'where' the computational support should be implemented ? b) Assuming answer to (a) to be "At the kernel level and in C/ASM", is it possible to achieve a fine-grain modularity in terms of fairly generic algorithms and computations which can then be combined in conjunction to support a variety of encryption strategies ? c) Is there any benefit to implementing the random number generation system in the Kernel? Your input is greatly appreciated. If you feel there are other considerations to be made, please let me know. Thank you. Joubin p.s. Java(tm) and related items are the tightly guarded property of Sun Microsystems Inc. __________________________________ member, alpha zero LLC joubin(a)inch.com NoVA __________________________________

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Re: Spoofing
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

semprini(a)theschool.com wrote: > > I don't think I'm out of line here in saying that all this spoofing of > other users is a bit childish. I'm sure there are better > things one could find to do with one's time. (Possibly work on > cracking RSA's 128- bit key?) > > --Dylan I already cracked it. The message is: "Sorry, but we ran out of cash."

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17 Dec '03

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spoofing as performance art
by Zooko Journeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C. May allegedly typed something like: > > There's something about the Cypherpunks list that causes some people to > decide it would be a kewl act of performance art to disrupt it, distract > it, stalk it, and mailbomb it. > > And complaining never helps...it only stimulates their performance art juices. Hey, the jokes from Anonymous(ses) and Dmitri M. Vulis are the only reason I _read_ cpunks anymore! Oh yeah-- and that hilarious spoof about PGP, Inc. putting GAK-friendly features into their product. It's so funny that people fall for that old "PGP is in with the government" gag every time it comes around. Also, I'm looking for a job, I think. Or else a good university to go to. But mostly I'm just reading the hilarious Anonymous posts and spoofs. Regards, Zooko

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Re: PGP Employee on MKR
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to wrote: > I have watched this silly debate for some time now. PGP pulled an awsome > hack on corporate America, bringing strong crypto to thousands of > corporate drones, while Cypherpunks, the crypto elite, seems incapable of > reponding with anything other than to engage in frenzied mutual > masturbation fueld by GAK fantasies. > > This is sad. Very sad. Lucky, did you actually read anything I wrote, or is this merely another knee-jerk response? If you can explain the following, then I'll accept that my fears are merely fantasies: 1. How PGP can prevent CMR being converted into GMR; their system builds all the code required to support mandatory encryption to FBI and NSA keys into every copy of PGP. 2. Why PGP prefer this option to almost identical systems which do not allow GMR. They don't even seem to be interested in discussing alternatives. These are the important questions we should be asking and noone on the pro-PGP side seems interested in answering them. Why? Frankly, this issue seems to be the most important since Clipper, and I'm amazed that so many cypherpunks are so dazzled by PGP's name that they refuse to sit and think these issues through. Mark

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