December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

McCain's War for Security
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The New York Times Magazine had a feature story on Senator McCain a week or two ago which covered in detail his personal, military and political history and his heroic struggle to meet the high standards set by his admiral father, the Navy and individual ethics. His long imprisonment by the North Vietnamese due to a refusal to be released as the well-known son of a prominent admiral was cited as an example of his duty to to put national interests above his own. This iconic treatment of a national hero is worth pondering for the way it reveals what Tim calls "the fix is in." The imposition of protective measures often occurs through those with impeccable credentials, especially by appealing to the ones who believe that their special role is to rise above ordinary struggles and dispense exceptional wisdom, fairness and justice. The question on McCain is: has he been sold on the threat to national security of cryptography by appealing to his deep patriotism, his belief in a special duty to protect the nation, to fight its "war" with the day's enemies. Such feeding of grandiloquence is historical practice of the Richlieus running the government, raiding the till, commanding the academies, distributing authorizations to placate antsy kings-in-queue. The cariacature of this are "banana republics" where military and political saviors justify coups in the name of the "public interest," or "the people," fairly well in accord with threats to authority. Military, naval and governmental academies worldwide teach this belief in the special duty of public servants, notwithstanding the evidence that some graduates reap the not-so-public rewards. As amply displayed in S.936, the National Defense Authorization Act for FY 1998, the perennial US banana republic raid on the till. Read it to see who McCain thinks are the nation's enemies and protectors and who are the supreme judges of both. What's not as well publicized about leadership academies of all kinds is that they also teach (and practice) the Machiavellian wisdom of most stringent laws and harshest enforcement for challenges to the authority to govern, to tax, to command, to rule. To assure "national security" for those who thrive on it.

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Dirty hands kill more people (80K/yr) than guns (FWD)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This needed to be shared... Expect government hand escrow any day now. From: aib(a)col.hp.com (Allan Best) Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.usa.republican,al t.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics .libertarian,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns,alt.law-enforcement Subject: Re: Dirty hands kill more people (80K/yr) than guns Date: 17 Jun 1997 20:18:00 GMT Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division ec Roberts (armed_and_safe(a)technologist.com) wrote: : On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:00:03 +0900, Jason Gottlieb : <zj5j-gttl(a)asahi-net.or.jp> wrote: : {snip} : >The #1 murder weapon is a hand with a handgun in it. : > : The #1 murder weapon is a hand. This is so, : regardless of the tool in that hand. : Bob The obvious solution is to register all hands. Hands must be kept away from children. To protect children, a hand shall not be transported to within 1000 yards of any school, playground or daycare facility. All concealed carry hands must be registered. Concealed carry is banned in all government facilities, especially US Post Offices, and all public buildings including, but not limited to airports, bus stations, train depots and taxi stands. Furthermore, there shall be a 15-day waiting period and a background check before the purchase of any legal hand can be completed. Anyone caught with an unregistered hand shall have that hand immediately confiscated and be liable to a fine and/or imprisonment. The ownership of fully-automatic hands, assault hands, ugly hands, or cop-killer gloves is expressly forbidden. : > : >-- : >Jason Gottlieb : >Homepage goodies: Japanese SDF info, USA : > gun control info, travellogues, and more! : >http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zj5j-gttl : **** Armed and Safe(tm) **** : **** www.ivic.net/~ecr **** --- | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: The spam thread
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 24 Jun 97 at 9:45, Jason William RENNIE wrote: > Anyway shall we let this thread die at this point ?? I've tried. But I am eternally pulled back in. Sometimes at the first post, sometimes later. As long as people have promiscuous mail boxes they will get spam, use a filter, use your delete key. Denial of service attacks are destructive and unproductive. Die, Spam thread, Die! Out, spot, out! Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: (408) 259-2795

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Bomb-making instructions....
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The latest crime for which Senator Diane Swinestein has earned the [CENSORED] is her "bomb-making instructions on the Internet are illegal" bill. But I have a question. Does this mean CNN will face prosecution if it publishes the transcripts of the McVeigh case? Keith Henson, an explosives enthusiast since the early 1960s, was describing to us last night at a Silicon Valley party just how accurate the instructions were in the transcripts of the McVeigh trial, as the experts pointed out the steps needed to make the liquid explosive "Astrolight" (or "Astrolite"). Keith pointed out that most of the "lay" reports had repeated some of the usual lay errors about ammonium nitrate and fuel oil bombs, but that the full court transcript "got it right" on the conversion of the precursors to the more effective liquid form. It was Keith who raised the issue of the Swinestein bill making publication of court transcripts a crime...sort of collides with the notion of open trials.... (This party was a regular plotting opportunity...we figured out just how big a Ryder truck has to be to hold the "ergs" needed to take down some targets that sorely need taking down...all in theory, you understand.) We need to hold a trial for this bitch. Then a quick trip to the firewall. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Comparing Cryptographic Key Sizes
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes. > Below is a explanation of the meaning of cryptographic key sizes which > started as an explanation I wrote for a journalist friend of mine, on > being asked about how relatively secure a system using DES and RSA > (SET) was as compared to netscapes export version of SSL. > It could use some criticism. If you are not that crypto aware, does > it make sense to you? If you are crypto aware, what do you think of > my off the cuff estimates of hardness? > > > 56 bit DES is probably roughly similar to 512 bit RSA in hardness to > break. This is way off. We used ~457,000 MIPS years to search half of the DES keyspace. Factoring a 512 bit modulus using the General Number Field Sieve (GNFS) would take about 28,000 MIPS years (see Schneier for the exact number - I don't have AC2 at hand) Lenstra has estimated that with 500,000 MIPS years, you should be able to factor a 600 bit modulus using GNFS, if your workstations had enough memory. [...] > About 10 years ago now Michael Wiener made a design for such a DES > breaking machine. He estimated it would cost $10,000,000 to build a > machine which would break a 56 bit DES encrypted message a few hours. > His machine was scalable, pay more money, break the key faster, pay > less take longer. The estimate was that could build one with enough > DES key searching units to break it in a day for $1,000,000. That was > 10 years ago. 10 years is a long time in the computer industry. > Nowadays you build the machine more cheaply as chip technology has > progressed, and computers are much faster per $. Estimates are around > $100,000 to build the machine (neglecting hardware engineers > consultancy fees). Go back and check the numbers - if you don't the journalists will. (I don't have this paper to hand either :-( ) The Wiener paper is much more recent (93?) , and the cost much lower (I think it was about $1M for HW and $500K for development costs, for a 3.5 hour machine). Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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Re: Hettinga's e$yllogism
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Digital Commerce *is* Financial Cryptography, > Financial Cryptography *is* Strong Cryptography, > therefore, > Digital Commerce *is* Strong Cryptography. > and, therefore, > No Strong Cryptography, no Digital Commerce. Why can't escrowed ecash support digital commerce? Strong crypto with a government backdoor. That's what you're offered. Prove it can't work. Anon

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Child Porn 2 [JPG]
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here is the same Time-Life child pornography encrypyted with the public keys of even more co-conspirators in the cypherpunks list child porno ring. 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CP uses for the PGP 5.0 source
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

With the on-line availability of PGP 5.0 source code expected any day, perhaps the group should consider what CP goals can now be made practical. Hopefully, PGP will not object to CP uses. I submit the following as CP projects which could be substantially eased by the source code: EMAIL PLUG-INS PGP 5.0 contains some very good code examples for creating email plug-ins for Microsoft Exchange for Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.0, Microsoft Outlook for Windows 95 and Windows NT 4.0, Eudora Pro/Light for Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, Macintosh, Claris Emailer for Mac only. For cross-platform ease, I suggest we tackle the Eudora emailers, which have a well defined API, first. 1. Remailer: One reason remailers haven't been as popular as we've hoped is the need to operate separate, sometime difficult to use, remailer client software. By integrating these and other functions into plug-ins, creation of persistant identities and integration with key generation and management can be simplified. 2. Digital postage: CPs can gain the high-ground in the battle for handling the SPAM problem by offering plug-ins which enforce restrictions on incoming mail using digital postage. Two postage approaches have been discussed on the CP lists: ecash and hashcash. I suggest that the plug-ins offer both d-postage forms. Hashcash is eligent in its simplicity and its lack of a required central clearing facility. Hascash-based d-postage could also seed the development of commercial distributed computing Net industry, as SPAMers elect to purchase hashcash rather than generating it themselves-the idea isn't to eliminate SPAM, just place it on similar economic footing with junk snailmail. Adam Back has already done a considerable amount of investigation of ways to implement hascash (See http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/hashcash/) ECash could really supply an economic shot in the arm for remailers, making possible commercial (read profitable) remailers. It will also offer a ready-made market for accountless ecash, which will be available soon. Jeremey Barrett's higher level ecash API should greatly simplify ecash integration. --Steve PGP mail preferred Fingerprint: FE 90 1A 95 9D EA 8D 61 81 2E CC A9 A4 4A FB A9 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Schear | tel: (702) 658-2654 CEO | fax: (702) 658-2673 First ECache Corporation | 7075 West Gowan Road | Suite 2148 | Las Vegas, NV 89129 | Internet: azur(a)netcom.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- I know not what instruments others may use, but as for me, give me Ecache or give me debt. SHOW ME THE DIGITS!

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Re: New PGP signatures
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <Pine.SOL.3.96.970623055041.2746A-100000(a)sirius.infonex.com>, on 06/23/97 at 05:53 AM, Mark Grant <mark(a)unicorn.com> said: >Could I humbly request that people don't post the new (SHA?) PGP >signatures to the list for the time being as it's a pain in the ass for >those of us outside the US who don't yet have the ability to read them. >PGP 2.6.x error handling doesn't know what to do with them and it breaks >our mail-processing code. Hi Mark, You really need to modify your mail-processing code as you are going to see more and more of these. You should also start work on implementing the PGP/MIME RFC as you will be seeing more of these messages. Nothing personal but your code should not "break" on any data that is sent to it. PGP 2.6.x doen't have a problem with these signatures it just returns a error code and goes on it's way. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM660l49Co1n+aLhhAQHZEQP+MGX87jPWCO3VZMZG4Pt0R0sgFSSc6N+I 7/3w1QSxJomyd6jt9SUuyKsLMMC5UY7HCC71CHVyp2Aqm4N7Q8ratNC+WMxVPO3z 1DTNM4GYOnZmwdTMgowIPhb0Cfstd4Z+KXlr0jR5pE1Kni6+r3LBG7+jVv+Im6BY SlizRYaent0= =YBoc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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spam on this list
by Jason William RENNIE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NO i dont wish to post any, i just want to know if this list has spam sent to it ?? I started reciveing various pieces in the last couple of days and i'm trying to identify the source. thanx in advance, jason =8-]

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