December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Vandalism in New York City
by varange＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Xmas day vandals overturned 75 headstones in the Calvary > Cemetry in Long Island City, near the residence of Earthweb's > associate network administator Ray "Arsenic" Arachelian. So? New York City is so culturally ugly vandalism can only improve it. -- Cheers!

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Repair " YOUR OWN " Credit !
by robroy＠flinet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Vulis strikes again?
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

wheee, looks like KOTM subscribed us to a shitload of mailing lists... Having fun Herr Doktor? =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian | "If you're gonna die, die with your|./|\. ..\|/..|sunder(a)sundernet.com|boots on; If you're gonna try, just |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |stick around; Gonna cry? Just move along|\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |you're gonna die, you're gonna die!" |.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"| --Iron Maiden "Die With Your Boots on"|..... ======================== http://www.sundernet.com ========================= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:13:57 -0800 From: sharks-chat(a)plaidworks.com To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Cc: list-errors(a)plaidworks.com Subject: Error Condition Re: The mail server has identified an administrative command in your message. DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMANDS TO THE LIST. All server commands should be sent to listproc(a)plaidworks.com. If you did not intend to send an administrative command, then you'll need to rewrite your message to avoid the command words UNSUBSCRIBE that are causing listproc to trap your message. For help, send email to address info(a)plaidworks.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe

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[Fwd: F*$%K plaidworks.com]
by Carl Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RUL_let
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

12-24-96. "New encryption export rules probably won't be issued until early next week" Rules probably won't be issued until just a day or 2 before they go into effect on January 1, officials said Monday. Greg Simon said section of rules requiring detailed business plans from encryption companies is likely to be changed. [Markoff wrote last week the rules were due out December 22; any sightings?] ----- RUL_let (3 kb)

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Re: Legality of requiring credit cards?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:24 PM 12/26/96 -0500, Brian Davis wrote: > >On Wed, 25 Dec 1996, jim bell wrote: > >> At 12:31 AM 12/26/96 -0500, Brian Davis wrote: >> >> I would argue that if the bank can be forced to help the government enforce >> the law, the bank should also become liable for damage done as a consequence >> of complying with such requirements. While it's a different area, within >> the last few years a decision was made (SC?) that companies which had made >> Agent Orange for the US Government during Vietnam can be held liable >> (without recourse against the government, apparently) for the damages caused >> ex-servicemen for selling dioxin-tained Agent Orange to the government, but >> manufactured totally according to government specifications. (and used only >> outside the US, under government direction, by government agents, in an >> entirely different legal jurisdiction, to boot!) Seemingly, doing >> something at the behest of government does not immunize one. > >The fact that a bank complied with a federal regulation governing the >bank is not similar to a business selling a defective product. Wrong. They're not _identical_, but on the other hand it is indeed similar in many respects. Remember, "complying with a federal regulation" is actually a misleading statement: If _any_ leeway is allowed in how to "comply," the organization involved is, presumably, liable for the exercise of that freedom. Or, at least, they should be if the rules were followed. While admittedly this is an off-the-wall example, if a bank reported these transactions by sending them by car driven by a license-free 16-year old, and he lost control and killed a dozen people in a crowd, the fact that the bank "was complying with a federal regulation" wouldn't save them from hefty liability. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: RUL_let
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:11 PM 12/26/96 -0500, John Young wrote: >12-24-96. > >"New encryption export rules probably won't be issued until early >next week" > > Rules probably won't be issued until just a day or 2 before they > go into effect on January 1, officials said Monday. Good move on part of the USG. It will keep public discussion to a minimum. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Make your mark in the history of mathematics. Use the spare cycles of your PC/PPC/UNIX box to help find a new prime. http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

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UNIX talk and write source...
by jlucas4＠capital.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fellows, Anyone know if and where the source code for UNIX talk and write (or the equivalent Linux) commands are to be found? Anyone have any terminal to terminal communication code that they've written that they wouldn't mind parting with? Jay oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo o )\ _. - ._.) = Jesse Lucas - jlucas4(a)capital.edu o 1 /. `- ' ( `--' : http://www.geocites.com/collegepark/7332 1 1 `- , ) - > ) \ : "I cut off their heads and, like heaps of grain,1 o (.' \) (.' -. = I piled them up." - Assyrian Ruler o oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo oo1oo

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multiplicity
by troubled＠mailmasher.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Just great! The first message I send to this mailing list and somehow multiple copies of it get posted. I honestly don't know how it happened, but I'll try to be very careful in the future and watch for anything I might have carelessly done which could have caused this. Please accept humble newbie apologies.

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Re: Shit F. Brains
by Shit F. Brains 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Shit F. Brains wrote: > > You don't say!

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